Preview Changes: R7 vs GWS

[hey shorty]

Called it.

I'll be pissed if/when he slots straight back into the AFL side after a week or two off. Completely sick of him.

If he's fully fit and going, he does become an important part of the team.

 

[Scorpus]

I reckon it will be Mackay and Murray for Brown and Hamill (allegedly both injured).

Berry as the sub

 

[hey shorty]

I reckon it will be Mackay and Murray for Brown and Hamill (allegedly both injured).

Berry as the sub

A shrewd move, but maybe Rowe as sub. He looks gassed towards the end. Bring him on if needed late on in the game when it slows down.

 

[BACCS]

I reckon it will be Mackay and Murray for Brown and Hamill (allegedly both injured).

Berry as the sub

I would be surprised if Worrell doesn’t come in, has been a few hints through the media this week that we will have another debutant. Nicks has been hinting all season that he’s very close to selection, Hamill going out was always going to be his in to the afl side. Mackay will be sub.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

I don’t think people realise how big a loss Hamill is going to be. His pace in closing down space and pushing opposition players onto their wrong side or toward the boundary is a massive attribute. I expect sides to be able to straighten up more going into F50 without Hamill there to pressure the kicker entering the F50.

 

[Murray2503]

I reckon it will be Mackay and Murray for Brown and Hamill (allegedly both injured).

Berry as the sub

Mackay was terrible in the SANFL. I expect him in as well. His experience is required. View attachment eg6BdXf.mp4

 

[Golumless]

I don’t think people realise how big a loss Hamill is going to be. His pace in closing down space and pushing opposition players onto their wrong side or toward the boundary is a massive attribute. I expect sides to be able to straighten up more going into F50 without Hamill there to pressure the kicker entering the F50.

Losing Will is likely a big part of why we lost to Hawthorn. Just because it took away a genuine linebreaker from our defensive setup.

 

[Murray2503]

Losing Will is likely a big part of why we lost to Hawthorn. Just because it took away a genuine linebreaker from our defensive setup.

Hamill can hit targets. It's part of the reason we are losing games and being so heavily scored against. Turnovers in our back half and the rate that the oppo is scoring when we turn it over. Our back half is full of bad kicks. Smith is one of the worst culprits at hitting a pass to a team mate. We also need to stop the short dinky sideways kick in the backline as opposition players are being told to sweat off on it and we don't have the skills for it. If in doubt clear the area. We lack genuine leg speed and precise kicking skills in our backline so Hamill is a loss. The smart option would be Worrell who's length of kick would help to clear the zone and his rebounding abilities would lessen the loss of Hamill.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Lynch to miss R7 according to us

That can’t be true, Lynch is match fit

 

[Crowtel]

What makes you think that Worrell is coming in this week? The club hasn't done the debutant PR thing for him, which usually happens 2-3 days before the game, not the day before.

All evidence suggests that Worrell will be playing in the SANFL on Sunday, barring a late injury before tomorrow's game.

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I reckon we see it today

 

[Crowtel]

Losing Will is likely a big part of why we lost to Hawthorn. Just because it took away a genuine linebreaker from our defensive setup.

That and his replacement had the speed of a traffic cone

 

[CrowBloke]

... given GWS’ abundance of talls, I don’t see the problem with us putting in Worrell instead of Mackay. Going taller doesn’t create a matchup problem for us this round, at least

I reckon that's the problem with the Crows current selection policy (if they have one). They seem not to choose sides to counter different opponents/threats on a week-to-week basis. With the injuries they have and the rookies they need to blood, they cannot go into games saying "We're going to play our way" --- they don't have a "way" yet and need to have different weekly plans/personnel to blunt opposition strengths while finding out just what the rookies can do.
Retaining Frampton vs Freo was an obvious error+ they did not counter Mundy in any way that I could see = loss.
Vs. Hawthorn, we were a KPD short (pun intended) + O'Meara was BoG + not potting any one of three gettable kicks for goal (Berg/Keays/McAdam) + dumb tactics when the wind changed = loss, again.

From the posts/ideas above, it seems glaringly obvious that the Crows need:
1) an extra tall KPD for this week,
2) another busy/effective mid in the side, and
3) a hard-nut plan to stop that grub Greene from running free.
I've resisted naming set-in-stone INS/OUTS. I just wanna see the Crows select with a plan for GWS.

 

[FR0GGY]

Lynch being rested.

Sanity prevails

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It’s a mentally exhausting role, I expected nothing less.

 

[robboaustralia]

Love to see Newchurch in for a couple of weeks and Rowe have a rest for a couple. Won't happen but would be cool.

 

[CrowBloke]

But the reality is David has always been a poor defender. At best he is a half back or ideally just an outside midfielder. Positions that realistically Worrell could play

I agree that Worrell is preferable to Mackay and that Mackay is not a great defender; he's too slightly built and his tackles rarely stick. He's shrugged off easily.
But --- uh --- isn't a half-back a defender?

 

[CrowBloke]

So going to be something like...

In: Berry, Worrell, Murray
Out: Rowe, Hamill (inj), Brown (inj), Lynch

B: Doedee, Butts, Kelly
HB: Smith, Murray, Worrell
C: Seedsman, Keays, Sholl
HF: McHenry, Himmelberg, Murphy
F: McAdam, Walker, Thilthorpe
R: O'Brien, Hately, Laird
I: McPherson, Fogarty, Schoenberg, Berry
Sub: Mackay
Emergency: Rowe, Jones, Lynch for lols...

Though have this feeling Mackay may be an in.

I really like the balance down back of the 22 you've named and seeing Fog on the bench made me wonder why they don't use him in bursts off the bench only both up forward and in the middle as muscle, to play say only 60% game time, since his tank is still low. Or do they all ready?
Does anyone have stats on his minutes on the ground vs. Freo and Hawthorn, please?

 

[Vader]

Yesterday was reserved for McAsey re-signing.
I reckon we see it today

I hope you're right. I think Worrell deserves a chance, given what I've read about his SANFL form. I don't think it will happen this week, but I will be very happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Vader]

I really like the balance down back of the 22 you've named and seeing Fog on the bench made me wonder why they don't use him in bursts off the bench only both up forward and in the middle as muscle, to play say only 60% game time, since his tank is still low. Or do they all ready?
Does anyone have stats on his minutes on the ground vs. Freo and Hawthorn, please?

Fogarty had 64% TOG vs Hawthorn - only Hamill (57%) and Lynch (17%) were lower. Hately (65%) and Schoenberg (71%) were the next lowest.

He managed 76% against Fremantle, ahead of Frampton, McAdam, Murphy, Berry, Hamill, Schoenberg, and Murray (non-activated sub).

At the other end of the spectrum, Doedee & O'Brien played 95%+ in both games.

 

[CrowBloke]

Sunny dry day on Saturday arvo.
Perfect conditions. No wind.

Sunny/dry, yes.
Strong N wind of 30/35kph predicted for most of game time (Willyweather Adelaide: wind).

 

[CrowBloke]

Fogarty had 64% TOG vs Hawthorn - only Hamill (57%) and Lynch (17%) were lower. Hately (65%) and Schoenberg (71%) were the next lowest.

He managed 76% against Fremantle, ahead of Frampton, McAdam, Murphy, Berry, Hamill, Schoenberg, and Murray (non-activated sub).

At the other end of the spectrum, Doedee & O'Brien played 95%+ in both games.

OK, thank you. Suggests they are doing what I suggested all ready, but Fog's tank/engine are low. Looks like Schoenberg, too.

 

[GROTTO]

Sunny/dry, yes.
Strong N wind of 30/35kph predicted for most of game time (Willyweather Adelaide: wind).

The wind prediction was correct at the time of the post.

Secondly the NW winds are better as it has more protection from the Members grandstand. So still in effect the wind is not an issue in terms of accuracy, if anything the wind will assist long kicks towards the Northern end.

 

[Golumless]

Hamill can hit targets. It's part of the reason we are losing games and being so heavily scored against. Turnovers in our back half and the rate that the oppo is scoring when we turn it over. Our back half is full of bad kicks. Smith is one of the worst culprits at hitting a pass to a team mate. We also need to stop the short dinky sideways kick in the backline as opposition players are being told to sweat off on it and we don't have the skills for it. If in doubt clear the area. We lack genuine leg speed and precise kicking skills in our backline so Hamill is a loss. The smart option would be Worrell who's length of kick would help to clear the zone and his rebounding abilities would lessen the loss of Hamill.

Well, the big one is the structure is a mess at this point in time. Kelly, Brown, McPherson and Doedee is one too many small defenders who lack a genuinely damaging offensive game, or KPD height. Plus our midfield, whilst improving, isn't exactly a reliable thing at the moment. Really, the best option would be to remove Kelly for Worrell, but he's irritatingly in-form at the moment..

"If in doubt, clear the area" is a terrible option, and Hawks game showed why it's a bad option, because we got shut down in the fourth because we resorted to that garbage (consistently bombing it to the right is truly the sign of a panic-stricken team). Football is one of the few balls sports in which territory is not a viable defensive option at higher levels (especially as your always kicking to an outnumbered situation). A properly organised defensive unit is just going to pick that off for fun, hem the opposition into their defensive 50 until they're eventually scored against. You need to develop a game where you can kick through it, or run through it consistently. If that's what Nicks wants to develop, then you keep doing it, and you keep doing it until it becomes so ingrained in every defender it's what they resort to under pressure.

Hamill was just a big loss because it took away someone who could run at the defence, and in the 4th, we desperately needed someone who could change up what we were doing to get away with the panicked football we played. Maybe Hamill succumbs to the malaise, maybe not. Worrell is a good move, but that's more due to Josh also having a good running game.

 

[CrowBloke]

The wind prediction was correct at the time of the post.
Secondly the NW winds are better as it has more protection from the Members grandstand. So still in effect the wind is not an issue in terms of accuracy, if anything the wind will assist long kicks towards the Northern end.

I saw Willyweather wind prediction on Wednesday. Strong Northerly, tending to NNW.
Won't the wind assist kicks heading to the Southern end and affect accuracy kicking towards the N end?

 

[Jarman3]

We also need to stop the short dinky sideways kick in the backline as opposition players are being told to sweat off on it and we don't have the skills for it. If in doubt clear the area. We lack genuine leg speed and precise kicking skills in our backline so Hamill is a loss. The smart option would be Worrell who's length of kick would help to clear the zone and his rebounding abilities would lessen the loss of Hamill.

We spent most of the last quarter against Hawthorn trying to "clear the area" by pumping it long out of our defensive 50, and it just killed us. It became very predictable very quickly, Hawthorn set up for it and just kept picking off those kicks and sending it straight back in again. We can't be afraid to take some calculated risks by mixing things up instead of being so predictable. The key part is the "calculated" part there, as opposed to "stupid", which is what we often see from some of our poorer decision makers / executors. When it was obvious to everybody that Hawthorn were all over those long kicks out of defence, we really needed to mix things up and take a few shorter options just to try to break up that defensive zone they'd set up to intercept the long bombs. Yeah, we might have screwed it up and turned it over, but we were screwing up and turning it over anyway so at least we could have turned it over while trying something different / creative.

I'd like to have seen something like maybe Sholl pushing back to take a few kick ins. He's generally a beautiful kick of the ball, wouldn't need to kick it 60m, just pick out a shorter target say 30m, and ideally not to the pocket next to the same boundary line we'd been ineffectively bombing it down for the past 10 minutes. We have to work harder to create some kind of option between that dinky sideways kick you mentioned (which doesn't really improve our position even when we hit the target) and the blind long bomb.

 

[GROTTO]

I saw Willyweather wind prediction on Wednesday. Strong Northerly, tending to NNW.
Won't the wind assist kicks heading to the Southern end and affect accuracy kicking towards the N end?

No.

I saw it too, said No wind.