List Mgmt. Changes that we need

[1970crow]

Are Jonas and Stewart being under utilized? Aren't they both quality football people?

If they only have 1 job at our club then they're being under-utilized.

 

[cmndstab]

Offer him $1m a year. Or bring in somebody from the outside, ala Michael Voss or whoever else is available. Dennis Pagan even. Chuck the bloody house at bringing Malcolm Blight back.

Good God. Voss, Pagan and Blighty. No offence to Pagan and Blighty who were super coaches in their day, but that era has passed. And the less said about Voss, the better. I'd rather we brought Craig back and put him in three roles.

 

[spenze]

We should replace the Crow sound after goals are kicked with a cowbell...

 

[spenze]

Good God. Voss, Pagan and Blighty. No offence to Pagan and Blighty who were super coaches in their day, but that era has passed. And the less said about Voss, the better. I'd rather we brought Craig back and put him in three roles.

We'd be better off targeting Stuart Dew. Roos wanted him as his successor so he must be alright

 

[1970crow]

Direct involvement of course.

What would you suggest? Should we have gotten rid of Reilly and taken an extra draft selection in the 80s somewhere? Reilly clearly has something to offer us still. Even if you discount his work on the footy field (and I don't think he has been that bad), he's obviously useful as a mentor.

When you're asking for Noble to be demoted because he re-signed Reilly for a couple of years, it's hard to take anything else you say seriously, even when there are actually some good points there. Noble is one of the very few Crows staffers who has performed above average in my mind.

He should be year to year. No need to give him two.

 

[cmndstab]

We'd be better off targeting pretty much any current coach in the entire AFL competition than one of those three.

 

[cmndstab]

He should be year to year. No need to give him two.

No harm in giving him two. Worse case scenario - we sack him early and lose a bit of money. And in the meantime Noble gets to focus on more important/difficult negotiations. Why would we drag out negotiations with Reilly?

Talk about a non-issue, especially considering all of the actual issues the club has at the moment.

 

[40porpoise]

Good God. Voss, Pagan and Blighty. No offence to Pagan and Blighty who were super coaches in their day, but that era has passed. And the less said about Voss, the better. I'd rather we brought Craig back and put him in three roles.

Haha. They were the first 3 mongrels with a bit of attitude that came to mind that would rock the boat a little, but now that I think about it it wouldn't be the worst idea. Was just trying to emphasise that we need somebody in the coaches box that doesn't have the same old Mr. Nice Guy persona.

In all seriousness though I think somebody like Bomber Thompson or John Worsfold would be great senior assistants to Sando. Guys like Rodney Eade, Brett Ratten, Alan Richardson, Paul Roos etc. would also be great as assistants but they got poached by other clubs when we were sitting around twiddling our thumbs happy with the status quo.

 

[Glenno23]

How about Voss as midfield coach? Guy was one of the best of his era

Clarke, Bicks and Campo need to go. Dasher needs a review

Rehn in as ruck coach, Voss for mids and someone good for the forward line. Any suggestions?

New fitness coach

New "advisor" to Sando. Someone with experience with the modern game. Thompson would be ideal, but thats a big fish to land

Tell Sando he's got 1 year (2015) to show we can compete again with the new set up

Would love a Geelong type review from 2006 to sweep all the DEAD wood out and start again. We have the list, but this fish is rotting from its head

 

[Wright Away]

Are Jonas and Stewart being under utilized? Aren't they both quality football people?

They have been shafted into some backwater development roles.

 

[cmndstab]

Thompson and Worsfold are two good suggestions

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

How about Voss as midfield coach? Guy was one of the best of his era

Clarke, Bicks and Campo need to go. Dasher needs a review

Rehn in as ruck coach, Voss for mids and someone good for the forward line. Any suggestions?

New fitness coach

New "advisor" to Sando. Someone with experience with the modern game. Thompson would be ideal, but thats a big fish to land

Tell Sando he's got 1 year (2015) to show we can compete again with the new set up

Would love a Geelong type review from 2006 to sweep all the DEAD wood out and start again. We have the list, but this fish is rotting from its head

Wouldn't mind Jude Bolton in our set up somewhere

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Thompson and Worsfold are two good suggestions

IMO Woosha would be a great fit for our club

 

[Glenno23]

Wouldn't mind Jude Bolton in our set up somewhere

Put him as ruck coach, Couldn't be any worse than Doc

 

[spenze]

There is a reason why Rehn doesn't get coaching jobs anymore, rathered we got Lade to be honest. Gets Ivan, makes him a star, gets Hampson, makes him a decent ruck.

If we are going to get some different assistants then go for broke and get ones that'll make our players better

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Brendan Lade would be ideal as ruck coach

 

[SellarStardom]

What about trying to grab Roy Laird as an advisor to Sando. Had centrals firing for a while, would he do it though? No idea of personality

 

[King Elvis]

Direct involvement of course.

What would you suggest? Should we have gotten rid of Reilly and taken an extra draft selection in the 80s somewhere? Reilly clearly has something to offer us still. Even if you discount his work on the footy field (and I don't think he has been that bad), he's obviously useful as a mentor.

When you're asking for Noble to be demoted because he re-signed Reilly for a couple of years, it's hard to take anything else you say seriously, even when there are actually some good points there. Noble is one of the very few Crows staffers who has performed above average in my mind.

A contract of that length, at his age, with a major injury, was madness.

 

[feenix67]

Good God. Voss, Pagan and Blighty. No offence to Pagan and Blighty who were super coaches in their day, but that era has passed. And the less said about Voss, the better. I'd rather we brought Craig back and put him in three roles.

Regarding Voss, based on what?

 

[Skippy231]

What about trying to grab Roy Laird as an advisor to Sando. Had centrals firing for a while, would he do it though? No idea of personality

I know he doesn't fly which is why I assume he has never gone for an AFL coaching position.

 

[cmndstab]

Regarding Voss, based on what?

Based on his complete and utter annihilation of Brisbane during his short tenure there, to the point that club legends had to go and get him removed before he did any more irreparable damage.

 

[1970crow]

No harm in giving him two. Worse case scenario - we sack him early and lose a bit of money. And in the meantime Noble gets to focus on more important/difficult negotiations. Why would we drag out negotiations with Reilly?

Talk about a non-issue, especially considering all of the actual issues the club has at the moment.

So giving players an extra year and having it served in the sanfl, as Reilly will likely do, is a non issue. Bit of wasted salary cap and a spot on the list, who cares eh stab. Another area of the club where we embrace mediocrity from the person in charge. Drag out negotiations, pfft. You've likely purchased and/or sold a house or 2 stab. Agreement might take a month or longer to complete, but how much actual time is spent between the making of the first offer and final acceptance. There can be a fair bit of lead up work, and successfully managing a list of 40 players with a salary cap would require a bit of it, but once the initial offer has been tabled, there isn't a great deal of variation that can occur and the fact is that the bulk of the work has been done.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

The problem with our great football club is its fine to say " sack this bloke or that bloke" but we will only replace him from within anyway... What's the point? When will Adelaide try and fill vacancies with ' the best" in the AFL?
Until this happens with every vacancy we may as well just accept what we have

 

[craig crowing]

The problem with our great football club is its fine to say " sack this bloke or that bloke" but we will only replace him from within anyway... What's the point? When will Adelaide try and fill vacancies with ' the best" in the AFL?
Until this happens with every vacancy we may as well just accept what we have

Yes Fred B right on mark look at assistant coaches .
Bickley -- ex Crows player been nowhere else.
Clark -- average ex Crows player no coach experience elsewhere
Milburn -- Friend of Sandos and no previous coach experience.
Camporeale - Was replaced at Carlton so picked up by us to return home .
Polous --fitness coach was at club in another role and promoted .
Then we have others in footy dept well entrenched from within like Noble and Fab. Phil who been blundering in all roles given .
Yes Stewart and particular Jonas been held back as actually have opinions .
Getting Lade as ruck coach is a must as was getting Walsh when wanted to come back to Adelaide and of course Burgess ( how dare he ask that much to do fitness ) A forward coach is also high on list but even more as of right now get experienced Bailey replacement.

 

[BrissyCrow]

I know that some of you will think this is a silly question but I must admit I am a little in the dark about our clubs set up.

Recently our club was released by the SANFL and now owns its own licence. I was under the impression that members would be given voting rights and that we would have a say in the who would be on the board via a vote. Obviously I am wrong. So many here want to get rid of Trigg and Harper. So many of the people here are totally disillusioned with the entire board.

Can someone please give a simply explanation as to what is the real situation and whether its going to change in the future........I know Vader would know.