Prediction Changes vs Brisbane

[earlsta]

Mackay passed off directly in front from about 40 out because he's not good enough in front of the goals, he lacks the killer instinct.

It's only a matter of time now before Hampton takes his place, once we see Hampton in the one's it's bye bye MacKay forever!
Mackays a nice bloke and does a few good things each game, but he simply can't defend, tackle or even influence a contest, he's a weak link at the club. As soon as you can't tackle you'll get exposed big time in the AFL.
Hampton is bigger, stronger & faster with a more penetrating kick, can't wait to see him in!

 

[1970crow]

I've answered your question Wayne, but Spackler deleted my post. Not even a swear word either.

Anyway, you haven't answered my question, are you saying that Seed will be dropped?

 

[Crow Envy]

Enough of the personal sniping

Why would you have deleted my post? And if you are going to do that I assume you're going to wipe the last 3 pages of this thread?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Why would you have deleted my post? And if you are going to do that I assume you're going to wipe the last 3 pages of this thread?

Just everything after the warning.

 

[Crow Envy]

Just everything after the warning.

That's fair enough if my post was a personal snipe but it wasnt.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Was there saw everything pretty clearly and have watched the replay. Was it the second when Parish pushed him over like a bundle of straw? Or was it in the second when he was hitting his team mates lace out after breaking the lines? maybe the 2nd when he chased down all those Dons players with his great leg speed?

It was the last qtr ....but carry on

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Stop fighting! You guys are tearing this family apart

 

[Murray2503]

Would play wigg and cey for thommo and lyons or douglas just to see what it looks like.

And with Obrien and tex likely to come in as well its like this..
In: Obrien, CEY, Tex
Out: Jacobs, Thompson, ???

Not McGovern. Not Lyons. No Crouches. Down to Atkins, Seedsman and someone else...

Won't be atkins or gov. Most likely out will mackay or douglas for tex but i think he may be rested this week and play against freo.

 

[1970crow]

Just everything after the warning.

I feel hard done by here. Your warning fitted perfectly with the line of dialogue between WW and I. It couldn't have been any more on topic and my use of it made it all the more meaningful. Booooo.

 

[macca23]

Would play wigg and cey for thommo and lyons or douglas just to see what it looks like.

Won't be atkins or gov. Most likely out will mackay or douglas for tex but i think he may be rested this week and play against freo.

That makes perfect sense to me. Tex has had to carry quite a bit of injury from time to time this year and one more week off will not only ensure that his ankle is right but help get rid of any other niggles he may have been carrying.

For me it would be a straight swap of O'Brien and CEY for Jacobs and Thompson.

 

[Schulzycrow]

It was the last qtr ....but carry on

Whatever, you live in your world where Mackay polls top 5 in the B&F gets another 4 year contract and I'll stay in reality.

 

[crowsup]

Mackay passed off directly in front from about 40 out because he's not good enough in front of the goals, he lacks the killer instinct.

It's only a matter of time now before Hampton takes his place, once we see Hampton in the one's it's bye bye MacKay forever!
Mackays a nice bloke and does a few good things each game, but he simply can't defend, tackle or even influence a contest, he's a weak link at the club. As soon as you can't tackle you'll get exposed big time in the AFL.
Hampton is bigger, stronger & faster with a more penetrating kick, can't wait to see him in!

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I think that all us DMack defenders(?) understand that he is in the last 4-5 players to picked. What you DMack detractors fail to acknowledge is the fact that, at the moment, the players you guys believe are good enough to replace him, are not good enough. The main point is that they are not good enough NOW. Not 3-4 or ten games from now.
Some of you even acknowledge that you want them in, not because they would be contributing more but for the experience they will be getting.
One other thing that gets me is idea that, because the next game is an easy game, we should debut some young guy to give them experience but forget that, if the team is trying to change a few things, the best time to do it is during these type of games. That would probably mean that the majority of the players that will play in the finals, will need to be playing in these games.
Well, at least, if I were a coach, this is the way I would see it.
But, before anybody says it, I agree that I know SFA about footy and or coaching.

 

[spenze]

Out: Players I wanted left in

In: Players I definitely wanted out

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Out: Players I wanted left in

In: Players I definitely wanted out

astute selections

 

[Elite Crow]

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I think that all us DMack defenders(?) understand that he is in the last 4-5 players to picked. What you DMack detractors fail to acknowledge is the fact that, at the moment, the players you guys believe are good enough to replace him, are not good enough. The main point is that they are not good enough NOW. Not 3-4 or ten games from now.
Some of you even acknowledge that you want them in, not because they would be contributing more but for the experience they will be getting.
One other thing that gets me is idea that, because the next game is an easy game, we should debut some young guy to give them experience but forget that, if the team is trying to change a few things, the best time to do it is during these type of games. That would probably mean that the majority of the players that will play in the finals, will need to be playing in these games.
Well, at least, if I were a coach, this is the way I would see it.
But, before anybody says it, I agree that I know SFA about footy and or coaching.

So if Mackay gets selected ahead of Seedsman are you saying Seedsman isn't good enough now?

 

[Samcro24]

Mackay gets selected because we lack players of his type. Stylistically he's exactly what we need- a hard running outside player in a sea of slow inside types. Ability wise he is very ordinary. He's been dropped twice this year- suggests to me he's picked around the 20+ mark if we were to use a vader-esque pecking order. Players like knight, Hampton and Menzel that might replace him have all been injured.

For years we crapped on about needing a small forward and outside run. We played petrenko for 70 odd games until we finally landed betts. I wonder how long we would have persisted with him had Carlton upped their offer and re-signed eddie. He'd probably still be persisted with today.

And that's how I see Mackay. It took years to get the quality small forward. We've only recently been able to address the outside run with some project/rookie players.

That's why Mackay survives in 2016. That and the 4 year deal.

 

[azza77]

Again, I really think Tex should be rested further.

In: ROB, CEY, Wigg
Out: Jacobs, Thommo, Mackay

I would also personally leave Jacobs out for the Freo game too, but also rest one of Sloane/Betts rather than them travelling to Perth. They've been a warriors all season. Sloane probably wont want to miss because of his Brownlow chances so it makes it hard. We know that Thommo will come straight back in regardless of how well Wigg or CEY play But i there really any point in sending him all the way over to Perth? I still dont trust CEY's kicking after 1 really good SANFL, so would love for Wigg to say in.

Out: Sloane/Betts, CEY/Wigg
In: Walker, Thommo

 

[MRB37]

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I think that all us DMack defenders(?) understand that he is in the last 4-5 players to picked. What you DMack detractors fail to acknowledge is the fact that, at the moment, the players you guys believe are good enough to replace him, are not good enough. The main point is that they are not good enough NOW. Not 3-4 or ten games from now.
Some of you even acknowledge that you want them in, not because they would be contributing more but for the experience they will be getting.
One other thing that gets me is idea that, because the next game is an easy game, we should debut some young guy to give them experience but forget that, if the team is trying to change a few things, the best time to do it is during these type of games. That would probably mean that the majority of the players that will play in the finals, will need to be playing in these games.
Well, at least, if I were a coach, this is the way I would see it.
But, before anybody says it, I agree that I know SFA about footy and or coaching.

Mackay ain't the difference between us winning and losing. Look at Riley Knight. He played 10 odd games and had a real positive impact on the Elimination final while Mackay did nothing. Just because a player is inexperienced doesn't mean they can't make a contribution.

 

[SES SA]

I doubt it. You thought Mackay was "rested" after he played the worst game of any Crow this season.

Hey now, lets not get carried away. VB had 1 possession in a half against GWS (6 total). It does not get worse than that.

 

[little graham]

I watched the highlights package of obriens sanfl career and it looks like Obrien has the ability to own the ruck. Whoever made that vid at the club would of thoroughly enjoyed putting that together. Its almost if they have a really strong sense of occassion.


Will they use Jenkins in ruck more?

 

[SloaneysDanger]

Again, I really think Tex should be rested further.

In: ROB, CEY, Wigg
Out: Jacobs, Thommo, Mackay

I would also personally leave Jacobs out for the Freo game too, but also rest one of Sloane/Betts rather than them travelling to Perth. They've been a warriors all season. Sloane probably wont want to miss because of his Brownlow chances so it makes it hard. We know that Thommo will come straight back in regardless of how well Wigg or CEY play But i there really any point in sending him all the way over to Perth? I still dont trust CEY's kicking after 1 really good SANFL, so would love for Wigg to say in.

Out: Sloane/Betts, CEY/Wigg
In: Walker, Thommo

We can't just go on a resting spree so close to finals, that's not very smart management. If Tex is fit this week he comes in. If Sauce is fit next week he plays. Sandilands will be playing next week so if Sauce is fit he doesn't get rested. Sloane and Betts have never needed rests over their careers so I don't see the point there. Neither have been injured all year.

We need to get our percentage up and up and up because it will be vital by round 23. resting players and weakening our team for the hell of it won't help our percentage.

 

[crowsup]

So if Mackay gets selected ahead of Seedsman are you saying Seedsman isn't good enough now?

Not at all. I'm saying that that is the value he's seen as. Not a Millera or CEY. Some of you guys see no value to the team at all. Some even talk about replacing him with Doodee. Or, to put in another example; would you swap Seedman for Millera or CEY?

 

[crowsup]

Mackay ain't the difference between us winning and losing. Look at Riley Knight. He played 10 odd games and had a real positive impact on the Elimination final while Mackay did nothing. Just because a player is inexperienced doesn't mean they can't make a contribution.

That may very well be true but, isn't it the same as saying that Tex is not the difference between us winning and losing? Look on how much more Shooter contributed to the team when Tex was out.
I think that, individually, any one of out players can be replaced with a debutant with the debutant contributing. I know that if Millera were to replace Dmack now, Millera's contribution to the team would be adequate. Some would say that it would be better than DMack's because Millera's disposal is better. I would say that Millera's 5-8 fewer disposals are not the problem. I would say that the amount of times that DMack stops or ******s the opposition by contesting the ball, makes his contribution to the team, a lot more valuable than Millera's 3-4 better disposals.

 

[Sanders]

That may very well be true but, isn't it the same as saying that Tex is not the difference between us winning and losing? Look on how much more Shooter contributed to the team when Tex was out.
I think that, individually, any one of out players can be replaced with a debutant with the debutant contributing. I know that if Millera were to replace Dmack now, Millera's contribution to the team would be adequate. Some would say that it would be better than DMack's because Millera's disposal is better. I would say that Millera's 5-8 fewer disposals are not the problem. I would say that the amount of times that DMack stops or ******s the opposition by contesting the ball, makes his contribution to the team, a lot more valuable than Millera's 3-4 better disposals.

Sure I probably agree 90-95% with this

It does depend on who is being replaced and by whom

McGovern covered tex because he's bloody awesome, in a way most guys couldn't.

 

[marty36]

That may very well be true but, isn't it the same as saying that Tex is not the difference between us winning and losing? Look on how much more Shooter contributed to the team when Tex was out.
I think that, individually, any one of out players can be replaced with a debutant with the debutant contributing. I know that if Millera were to replace Dmack now, Millera's contribution to the team would be adequate. Some would say that it would be better than DMack's because Millera's disposal is better. I would say that Millera's 5-8 fewer disposals are not the problem. I would say that the amount of times that DMack stops or ******s the opposition by contesting the ball, makes his contribution to the team, a lot more valuable than Millera's 3-4 better disposals.

Don't waste your time, you don't need to justify mackays inclusion in the team. The coach does that for you. Everyone knows he sits between player 20 to 25 depending on the form of himself and the form of those group of players after injuries of course.

I won't defend Mackay because he isn't a certain starter but there are many times he is worthy of being in the team in my opinion and it is backed up by Don Pyke by picking him. Pyke has more creditability than Elite Crow although I think elite would make a great coach as long as he stayed off the booze and didn't try and teach the players about fitness