Preview Changes vs Tigers

[alex_is_on_fire]

Why so angry??

And it's petulant.

Listen, you seen to have a problem with how I post.

Look, saying that I don't really care. However, I don't see the need to being your holier than now posting style that you are so much better than me or anyone else that you bring to my posts, so either ignore it or just don't waste your time as this response is just a waste for everyone.

Stop being a donkey.

 

[Mattrox]

Problem is VB has been shit more than one game, almost as many as Reilly I reckon. Next year he can't be captain because we should be able to drop him if his form warrants it. More concerning is lack of a defined role. They won't play a hard tag and he's being thrown all over the place which isn't helping.

The lack of a defined role is a huge distraction and has to be effecting his game..... much like Kerridge in the last 2 weeks.

I hope they learn from this and try to settle the team for the 2nd half of the season.

 

[Elite Crow]

The lack of a defined role is a huge distraction and has to be effecting his game..... much like Kerridge in the last 2 weeks.

I hope they learn from this and try to settle the team for the 2nd half of the season.

Its sheer stupidity. We've got a genuine tagger who can also win his own ball but we refuse to play the role, rendering VB redundant.

 

[jenny61_99]

Callinan had more disposals than van Berlo last week - just putting that out there.

I think Van berlo was given a role to shut malkeski down last week for the first half to cut his run from the half back flank. Second half he was moved on to hannebury which I believe he did relatively well given hannebury had had 30 disposals at half time and 43 for the game. So while he's not glamorous and a prolific ball winner, he does the role asked of him by his coach.

 

[Mattrox]

I would suggest Craig did that by stubbornly keeping massie on franklin. Roo playing did not lose that final.

I'd agree that coaching lost the game. But questions do get asked all the time. His figures for the game indicate that he had little or no impact and that's exactly what posters are asking of a captain, to lead from the front by dominating the game. I am playing devils advocate for a minute but I think it's fair to ask the question.

 

[Mattrox]

Its sheer stupidity. We've got a genuine tagger who can also win his own ball but we refuse to play the role, rendering VB redundant.

I still reckon VB is a better tagger and Kerridge a better forward/mid.

VB had some effective tagging roles this year, but he gets panned for successfully playing the role given. Shunting him around gives the perception that he's all over the place.

 

[BACCS]

I have no doubt he would be "pissed" at being dropped - but that doesn't inherently mean he's pissed off because he thinks he's too good to be dropped and that the AFL are mistreating him.

I'd be pissed off too if I was playing AFL and then was dropped, but not because I would assume I was awesome, just because I'd want to keep playing AFL. Assuming the club isn't feeding us a line (and they were quite specific about him being rested as opposed to most other players) he'll be back in soon and he'll be aware of that.

Of all our issues, I don't think this one rates very high.

You could be mistaken it's as bad at the Tippett drama given this boards meltdown all season regarding Lyons.

 

[xchadders]

well, night folks! i'll be seeing some of you in the stands tomorrow!
think we might have a small win

 

[King Elvis]

I think Van berlo was given a role to shut malkeski down last week for the first half to cut his run from the half back flank. Second half he was moved on to hannebury which I believe he did relatively well given hannebury had had 30 disposals at half time and 43 for the game. So while he's not glamorous and a prolific ball winner, he does the role asked of him by his coach.

More to do with Hannebury backing off because they'd already belted us.

 

[AFC979810]

I would suggest Craig did that by stubbornly keeping massie on franklin. Roo playing did not lose that final.

Then Petrenko playing did not lose our prelim final last year. Can't have it both ways.

 

[jenny61_99]

More to do with Hannebury backing off because they'd already belted us.

Yes, that must be it.

 

[Godallblighty]

Good players regularly get 10+ touches in a quarter. If they managed to keep that up for entire games, 40-50 touches would be kinda ho-hum. Hannebury was never going to sustain the pace he set in the first half. As it was, he still got another 13 touches even though Sydney put the cue in the rack early in the last quarter. VB didn't play well on either Malceski or Hannebury.

 

[Elite Crow]

I think Van berlo was given a role to shut malkeski down last week for the first half to cut his run from the half back flank. Second half he was moved on to hannebury which I believe he did relatively well given hannebury had had 30 disposals at half time and 43 for the game. So while he's not glamorous and a prolific ball winner, he does the role asked of him by his coach.

He was given the role to shut down Malkeski but he didn't do it very well. He then went onto Hannebery. Hannebery had 10 possessions in the 3rd and 5 for the last qtr. So Hannebery belted him in the third and Hannebery still had 5 possessions in the fourth when Sydney started their bye early and we scored junk time goals.

 

[Elite Crow]

Yes, that must be it.

Did you not notice Sydney backed off in the last quarter or do you genuinely feel we were the better team in the last quarter?

 

[King Elvis]

Yes, that must be it.

...

Come on Jenn, he destroyed us when it mattered, they were ten goals up - did you really expect him to continue hurting his arse to beat us when they'd already taken us apart?

Better question would be, why wasnt VB on him when he was torching us from the first bounce?

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

VB is one of many players playing out of position, Sando needs to pay VB as a tagger which plays ro his strength and if VB plays this role I'm confident he can again be a valuable asset to our side, if VB doesn't play ths role his value dissolves significantly

Not playing Dmac or Jaensch as defenders will also assist player and team

 

[Slippery Pete]

I'd agree that coaching lost the game. But questions do get asked all the time. His figures for the game indicate that he had little or no impact and that's exactly what posters are asking of a captain, to lead from the front by dominating the game. I am playing devils advocate for a minute but I think it's fair to ask the question.

That's one decision even Craig's harshest critics have never held against him. When you're going into a final and Mark Ricciuto is a 50/50 - you play him. There's not many guys you say that about, but he's one.

It didn't work out but it was well worth the gamble.

 

[Elite Crow]

That's one decision even Craig's harshest critics have never held against him. When you're going into a final and Mark Ricciuto is a 50/50 - you play him. There's not many guys you say that about, but he's one.

It didn't work out but it was well worth the gamble.

And if he did something about Massie on Franklin this selection would never be discussed. People also forget Roo basically got us into the final the week before against Collingwood

 

[maxlilly]

VB is starting to replicate Rielly's career. He doesn't play many positions very well and is getting exposed when they try and find a spot for him.
Last week he started in the forward pocket on Malkeski and got moved after he had 5-6 kicks on him in the 1st qtr.
Second qtr he went to the back pocket on Jude Bolton and he kicked a couple of goals on him.
Then he went to Hannebery and didn't show much improvement there either.
And VB probably thought 2011 was a tough year for the captaincy

 

[Slippery Pete]

And if he did something about Massie on Franklin this selection would never be discussed. People also forget Roo basically got us into the final the week before against Collingwood

I'd play Ricciuto if he was just a head and a torso.

 

[Elite Crow]

I'd play Ricciuto if he was just a head and a torso.

Imagine Roo and Danger in the same side, the other teams would just forfeit

 

[Mattrox]

I'd play Ricciuto if he was just a head and a torso.

I get that, and that an out of form Roo was probably better then a replacement was the thinking at the time.

My point was there are posts ad naesum about VB "not leading from the front" which I don't really buy because he is given a specific role. But he didn't lead from the front last week. And in the history of Captains there are periods of time where even greats haven't but still fulfil their role as a captain.

 

[Ekomaira]

There's a whisper that Scott Thompson will be a late out, if that happens what do you think of Crouch's chances of a late call up? Need him to play for SC.
Cheers.

 

[Slippery Pete]

I get that, and that an out of form Roo was probably better then a replacement was the thinking at the time.

My point was there are posts ad naesum about VB "not leading from the front" which I don't really buy because he is given a specific role. But he didn't lead from the front last week. And in the history of Captains there are periods of time where even greats haven't but still fulfil their role as a captain.

VB thread dude

 

[Ekomaira]

There's a whisper that Scott Thompson will be a late out, if that happens what do you think of Crouch's chances of a late call up? Need him to play for SC.
Cheers.

All good, team finalized... no Crouch