Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2022 (aka the Chris Scott discussion Part 5- its Like Rocky)

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Clark, Atkins, Henry, Close, Constable, Miers, Narkle, Parfitt, O'Connor; Ratugolea, Simpson, Kolo, Z Guthrie, Stewart, et al..

All given their first opportunity at senior level during Scott's tenure....and that's just the players still on the list. And more will get an opportunity this year I suspect.

The contention that Scott doesn't give young players opportunities is absurd.
Which older players were dropped due to poor form, and replaced with a youngster? I can’t think of any. Debuts usually come due to injuries, resting, suspensions, or to replace another fringe player.

I can remember moons and dasher being dropped, and never to return, for fresh blood. Can’t think of another time since.


im not talking about an 80 year old man compared to a 25 year old, and don’t get your google searches as your reference.

the difference in reflexes of a 27 year old and a 30 year old are not going to be the reason you see a decline in performance and ability. The reason you see the drop in performance is because they can’t commit to the same performance training loads they could before due to slower recovery times and being able to take on less performance loading, hence the markedly big drop in performance, not because all of a sudden overnight your “reflexes” plummeted off a cliff during summer.

it’s been even shown through clinical testing to give you a further example that if you give a sedentary old 80 year old a performance training program he will improve in overall strength and testing performance. This is what causes the large notewble drop off at that point during the tail of their careers, their ability to take a training load and recover decreases
So a 35 yr old will have the same speed, strength and reflexes as a 23 yr old?
 

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Which older players were dropped due to poor form, and replaced with a youngster? I can’t think of any. Debuts usually come due to injuries, resting, suspensions, or to replace another fringe player.

I can remember moons and dasher being dropped, and never to return, for fresh blood. Can’t think of another time since.




So a 35 yr old will have the same speed, strength and reflexes as a 23 yr old?
depends on plenty of factors, including injury history that needs to come into consideration such as ligament and tendon recovery and if they fully recovered, bad muscle fiber tears and the gradients etc, as just another thing to keep in mind.

there are examples of players playing better into their 30’s even. Sam mitchel was an AA premiership midfielder at the ripe old age of 33, Tom Hawkins played his career best season at the age of 33 and moved like a stallion, if it was some decline of reflexes that was the reason than we would never see these instances. I’m not saying it doesn’t occur because reflexes do slow with age, but it isn’t the reason a 27 year old is elite and a 29 year old drops off in form. A professional athlete isn’t going to experience something like that in two years.

I think I’m waffling and getting off track as it’s quite a detailed chat to actually look into all the factors, not a quick big footy post
 

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The moral of the story seems to be get hit like Neale on Rohan, and don't retaliate, and then cop trash talk from the opposition without serving anything back. Head in the clouds type stuff from AFL house, it's as if they don't want anyone to actually care or get passionate about the sport anymore. Stuff them, I like what Scott did.
 

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Scott needs to get his lawyer to respond. My client has no recollection of the incident....and please read up on defamation laws....
Absolutely.

The AFL and the media have apparently decided Geelong are target number one. Geelong and Chris Scott need to get lawyers involved to put an end to it now before it escalates.

By the way, I don't know why the AFL think they can lecture anyone on setting a good example to kids given they are letting a man charged with sexual assault play. Don't even get me started on how fine they are with Wayne Carey. Or Ross Lyon. Or how fine they were with Milne. Also, where is the outrage over our former cat Menzel from the AFL?

Yeah. The AFL don't care about being role models. Geelong needs to stop being so accomodating and start sticking up for themselves.
 

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Absolutely.

The AFL and the media have apparently decided Geelong are target number one. Geelong and Chris Scott need to get lawyers involved to put an end to it now before it escalates.

By the way, I don't know why the AFL think they can lecture anyone on setting a good example to kids given they are letting a man charged with sexual assault play. Don't even get me started on how fine they are with Wayne Carey. Or Ross Lyon. Or how fine they were with Milne. Also, where is the outrage over our former cat Menzel from the AFL?

Yeah. The AFL don't care about being role models. Geelong needs to stop being so accomodating and start sticking up for themselves.
Finally some-one has said it. Thanks for as they say 'belling the cat'.
 

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Absolutely.

The AFL and the media have apparently decided Geelong are target number one. Geelong and Chris Scott need to get lawyers involved to put an end to it now before it escalates.

By the way, I don't know why the AFL think they can lecture anyone on setting a good example to kids given they are letting a man charged with sexual assault play. Don't even get me started on how fine they are with Wayne Carey. Or Ross Lyon. Or how fine they were with Milne. Also, where is the outrage over our former cat Menzel from the AFL?

Yeah. The AFL don't care about being role models. Geelong needs to stop being so accomodating and start sticking up for themselves.
It really has gone too far for years now. The AFL have so many double standards it is a joke. I was struck by how similar the umpiring was in the first 2 games for Geelong...they should be asking the AFL for a please explain. I don't believe the AFL care about the game at all, it is now all about the money and broadcast rights. Remember the great comeback story about Ben Cousins...no so great...they turn a blind eye as it suits them. It seams that they have decided that Geelong can be sacrificed to benefit other clubs. The club is a business so they need to consider that when they fight back but really Geelong have been good AFL citizens and don't seem to get credit for this. Other clubs that break rules and laws seem to be protected.
 

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Some may disagree with Scott's behaviour on Friday night but I loved it.

For too long we've been pushed around by the AFL. Never getting 11 home games, never getting home finals, MRO decisions that undoubtedly impact us disproportionately.

Scott stands up for the club and stands up for his players.

Let's face it, if Clarkson or Hardwick did what Scott did on Friday the media would be praising their 'passion' and saying 'how much would the players love knowing the coach has their back?'.
 

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Some may disagree with Scott's behaviour on Friday night but I loved it.

For too long we've been pushed around by the AFL. Never getting 11 home games, never getting home finals, MRO decisions that undoubtedly impact us disproportionately.

Scott stands up for the club and stands up for his players.

Let's face it, if Clarkson or Hardwick did what Scott did on Friday the media would be praising their 'passion' and saying 'how much would the players love knowing the coach has their back?'.
Could not agree more. We are far too passive almost scared of the AFL. Perhaps having Carter as President wasn't such a good idea given that he was a Commissioner and now has a job for them.
 

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Some may disagree with Scott's behaviour on Friday night but I loved it.

For too long we've been pushed around by the AFL. Never getting 11 home games, never getting home finals, MRO decisions that undoubtedly impact us disproportionately.

Scott stands up for the club and stands up for his players.

Let's face it, if Clarkson or Hardwick did what Scott did on Friday the media would be praising their 'passion' and saying 'how much would the players love knowing the coach has their back?'.
There is a rumour that he threatened to beat Fagan up in the carpark... what a legend. My money would be on Scott to beat up the entire Lions team one after the other.
 

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Some may disagree with Scott's behaviour on Friday night but I loved it.

For too long we've been pushed around by the AFL. Never getting 11 home games, never getting home finals, MRO decisions that undoubtedly impact us disproportionately.

Scott stands up for the club and stands up for his players.

Let's face it, if Clarkson or Hardwick did what Scott did on Friday the media would be praising their 'passion' and saying 'how much would the players love knowing the coach has their back?'.
I'd be very surprised if every other coach didn't do exactly the same thing.
 

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What exactly has geelong done except piss everyone off by winning on Friday night??

all I can see that had occurred is Brisbane players had a go at Rohan and Scott retaliated, very minor compared to some of the incidents you see where piles of players throw each other around in a huge scuffle.

so to summarize, Scott had a disagreement with some Brisbane players that didn’t look heated up at all. Rohan got reported for a chest high hit that clicked the neck for two weeks, dangerfield got reported for a clean bump that knocked out a player with a head clash, and an umpire made an incorrect call during the game.

... am I missing something??? Or is the above just normal ordinary business as usual footy.
 

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What exactly has geelong done except piss everyone off by winning on Friday night??

all I can see that had occurred is Brisbane players had a go at Rohan and Scott retaliated, very minor compared to some of the incidents you see where piles of players throw each other around in a huge scuffle.

so to summarize, Scott had a disagreement with some Brisbane players that didn’t look heated up at all. Rohan got reported for a chest high hit that clicked the neck for two weeks, dangerfield got reported for a clean bump that knocked out a player with a head clash, and an umpire made an incorrect call during the game.

... am I missing something??? Or is the above just normal ordinary business as usual footy.
We had the audacity to beat everyone's second favourite team in the Lions, I think that's the main thing that's riled the masses. The fallout has been unreal - the one positive is that I've consumed even less football media this week than I already do.
 

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We had the audacity to beat everyone's second favourite team in the Lions, I think that's the main thing that's riled the masses. The fallout has been unreal - the one positive is that I've consumed even less football media this week than I already do.
it really does simply come down to the underlying deep reason people can’t actually say doesn’t it?? That we keep winning and being a good side this long pisses everyone off. It’s as simple as that really. 15 years just is driving everyone nuts
 

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Finally some-one has said it. Thanks for as they say 'belling the cat'.
I said in the other thread that we should challenge publicly the Rohan call, not to get him off but to highlight Neale's pre-hit. That the Cats need to grow some balls on this BS coming constantly from the MRC/media. Stop appearing so nice about it all and draw some lines in the sand.

But crickets again. Disappointing.
 

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I said in the other thread that we should challenge publicly the Rohan call, not to get him off but to highlight Neale's pre-hit. That the Cats need to grow some balls on this BS coming constantly from the MRC/media. Stop appearing so nice about it all and draw some lines in the sand.

But crickets again. Disappointing.
Problem is that going to the tribunal & not being successful costs clubs $10k - with reduced football budgets this year, it's likely to factor into clubs decisions as to whether they appeal sanctions handed down by the MRO
 

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AFL360 showed different angles of the quarter time ‘altercation’ tonight and it seemed very clear that Brisbane players started the verbal stuff and Scott responded.

Also interesting was Fagan clearly carrying on with it as Scott was trying to get back to the coaches box - Scott retaliated but the vision makes it appear that Fagan was instigating it.
 

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AFL360 showed different angles of the quarter time ‘altercation’ tonight and it seemed very clear that Brisbane players started the verbal stuff and Scott responded.

Also interesting was Fagan clearly carrying on with it as Scott was trying to get back to the coaches box - Scott retaliated but the vision makes it appear that Fagan was instigating it.
Someone on footy classified said fagan mouthed off to scott, and scott called him an old cee you next tuesday.
 

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AFL360 showed different angles of the quarter time ‘altercation’ tonight and it seemed very clear that Brisbane players started the verbal stuff and Scott responded.

Also interesting was Fagan clearly carrying on with it as Scott was trying to get back to the coaches box - Scott retaliated but the vision makes it appear that Fagan was instigating it.
I was looking at that also. Even robo asked why all the attention about Scott? Why has he been asked to explain? Also fox and nine are using a picture of an angry Scott but it is him addressing the Geelong team and has nothing to do with the incident. The AFL really are pathetic.
 

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