List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[brysie]

Stop trying to talk JUH into existence, it's not happening, not now not ever. It doesn't matter what he can do he'll be doing it at the Bulldogs for a very long time.

Thanks Carl.

Really appreciate your contribution.

 

[jmac70]

Stop trying to talk JUH into existence, it's not happening, not now not ever. It doesn't matter what he can do he'll be doing it at the Bulldogs for a very long time.

It’s weird how a club investing so much money for infrastructure can’t see that the coach is holding them back. JUH won’t do anything much until Bevo is gone.

 

[No SPIN]

Jay Clark on Triple M mentioned earlier tonight very small talk going around we could be into Ollie Wines.

If rumours that Tay is concerned he’s not getting enough mid time are true, this talk won’t help.

 

[jmac70]

That would definitely tip Tay over the edge - if GWS rumours had any validity.

Over the edge of what?

 

[Peter Wallis]

It’s weird how a club investing so much money for infrastructure can’t see that the coach is holding them back. JUH won’t do anything much until Bevo is gone.

100% agree. The supporters and I am sure the majority of players feel the same way but the fact he won a premiership in 2016 seems to have given him a free reign. The hierarchy of the club need to get their heads out of the sand they are buried in and make the right call before it is too late.

 

[No SPIN]

Here come the "don't recruit Tom Mitchell we have Finn Macrae, don't recruit Dan McStay we have Nathan Kreuger" people all over again

What need does Duursma fill?

 

[brysie]

100% agree. The supporters and I am sure the majority of players feel the same way but the fact he won a premiership in 2016 seems to have given him a free reign.

I feel as if some clubs have begun, or go through phases of prioritising stability. The flag in 2016 was so momentous that parting ways with Beveridge is infinitely harder, as there's a hope that he'll take you there again. Similarly, Port seem to be prioritising stability with Hinkley due to his record of coaching the side to 3(?) preliminary finals.

I thought we were much the same under Buckley. We chased hope rather than measuring Bucks' achievements objectively and empirically. His 2018 and 2019 seasons were somewhat an anomaly and reflected the strength of our list, rather than a pioneering and inventive coach.

 

[No SPIN]

Over the edge of what?

You’re to quick mate - I amended the post. I was going to say over the edge in terms of leaving as was speculated earlier this month.

 

[jmac70]

You’re to quick mate - I amended the post. I was going to say over the edge in terms of leaving as was speculated earlier this month.

He won’t leave. Black and white to the end.

 

[JLC]

If rumours that Tay is concerned he’s not getting enough mid time are true, this talk won’t help.

Tay should concern himself with getting his body right.

Wouldn't surprise me as it's similar scenario to Mitchell. A bloody good midfielder not being played in their best spot due to wanting to give others an opportunity.

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[Soups]

What need does Duursma fill?

Archer.

 

[magpies42]

So when our first round pick is likely to be in the mid-20s, how has he increased or kept his value from being drafted at pick 18 in 2018?

No chance he’s worth that. Late second or early third. Port want to get rid of him

 

[Horaceg]

It’s weird how a club investing so much money for infrastructure can’t see that the coach is holding them back. JUH won’t do anything much until Bevo is gone.

I’m not sure is it Bevo or is it his hair gone first, I think both are just hanging in there for now.

 

[Freddo]

What need does Duursma fill?

Hmm I dunno maybe the fact that 2 of our 3 wingmen are 33&31 next year

 

[pablo disco bar]

Get khamis

Start playing reef macrae Allan and Ryan more

No need to trade for sake of trading

We are in a good spot

Fwiw I would keep murley over Richards but won't happen

 

[Rusty Beam]

Very small fry but I hope we take Riley Bonner

36

Riley Bonner

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

12.1

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

279.8

4star

D

12.3

3star

K

10.3

4star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

279.8

4star

D

21.4

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

7.4

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

in the SSP as a delisted free agent.

Would be a valuable depth player, who I wouldn’t discount getting game time, particularly if injuries come around. Not too dissimilar to Markov.

 

[KinderSmock]

I see Bailey Sniff wants to join Carlton.

The bags of Cotton On are of brown paper.

 

[Bramax]

Where's that reported?

It was a fake account.

 

[swoop42]

So far the only two players we've been legitimately linked to have been free agents which wouldn't have cost us anything in trade.

If our strategy (hope) was to bring in experienced depth whilst retaining our first two draft selections to be used on youth, then we might be done before the trade period even begins.

Is there a surprise in store?

 

[KinderSmock]

I feel as if some clubs have begun, or go through phases of prioritising stability. The flag in 2016 was so momentous that parting ways with Beveridge is infinitely harder, as there's a hope that he'll take you there again. Similarly, Port seem to be prioritising stability with Hinkley due to his record of coaching the side to 3(?) preliminary finals.

I thought we were much the same under Buckley. We chased hope rather than measuring Bucks' achievements objectively and empirically. His 2018 and 2019 seasons were somewhat an anomaly and reflected the strength of our list, rather than a pioneering and inventive coach.

In some ways, 2016 cost the Dogs a flag. With their list they should have won at least another one by now.

 

[KinderSmock]

Any update on us signing Josh Eyre? I know he was injured but until then, he looked like our Ruscoe replacement.

 

[jmac70]

It was a fake account.

Have you learnt a lesson about checking the reliability of your sources?
Probably do that before going the early crow.

 

[KinderSmock]

No chance he’s worth that. Late second or early third. Port want to get rid of him

They need capital and want him off the books.

 

[jmac70]

In some ways, 2016 cost the Dogs a flag. With their list they should have won at least another one by now.

Um….they won the flag in 2016.
Winning a flag can’t really cost you a flag.

 

[KinderSmock]

Um….they won the flag in 2016.
Winning a flag can’t really cost you a flag.

My logic here is that they now seem allergic to removing Bevo, regardless of his strange and curious ideas about who plays each week and individual style of coaching.

They won in 2016 but should have added to that tally. And I can't see them winning the flag whilst he's in charge. So what I'm saying is that under Bevo they've won one flag but with the list they've assembled, they should have more in the cabinet.