Contact sports like AFL could cease to exist in one generation

NoobPie

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I just don't know how we reached a point where a player can show poor technique in tackling, give someone a smack on the chops, and not give away a free kick merely because the bloke who has won the footy was trying to avoid the tackler.
Because neither you or greatwhiteshark are being honest in your assessments. A good practice when something "just doesn't make sense to you" is to assume it is your reading of the situation rather than the situation itself

The high tackle (as well as the push in the back in tackling situations) is very hard to adjudicate in the professional era. Players taking possession and whose first instinct is to try to draw high contact is neither good for the game play or player safety. Likewise players entering contest head first (which, mind you are generally rewarded with high contact.
 

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Nice bit of propaganda writing by the Rugby League guy who inserted the AFL in the mix. The media up there stick the boot in when they can.
However it said in a generation which is usually 20 years so who knows, and it is a broad sweeping statement quite common these days.
 

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Because neither you or greatwhiteshark are being honest in your assessments. A good practice when something "just doesn't make sense to you" is to assume it is your reading of the situation rather than the situation itself

The high tackle (as well as the push in the back in tackling situations) is very hard to adjudicate in the professional era. Players taking possession and whose first instinct is to try to draw high contact is neither good for the game play or player safety. Likewise players entering contest head first (which, mind you are generally rewarded with high contact.
As greatwhite said, the head is meant to be sacrosanct, yet we have a situation where a large chunk of the footy public thinks its acceptable to whack the player with the ball across the chops, or try and tackle them head first, merely because the bloke who won the ball in the first place is trying to evade the tackler.

My personal opinion is that the onus should be on the tackler, you know, the bloke second to the ball, to tackle legally, i.e. to tackle below the shoulder.

If he goes high, it should be a free kick against him. He should either learn to tackle correctly, or next time, be first to the footy.

We are constantly trying to work out how to keep the play open. Here is a thought: force players to tackle legally! Give the bloke who won the footy in the first place the right to duck and weave around a tackler. If he gets caught legally, fair enough, but if he receives a high one, he must win the free kick.
 

NoobPie

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As greatwhite said, the head is meant to be sacrosanct, yet we have a situation where a large chunk of the footy public thinks its acceptable to whack the player with the ball across the chops, or try and tackle them head first, merely because the bloke who won the ball in the first place is trying to evade the tackler.

My personal opinion is that the onus should be on the tackler, you know, the bloke second to the ball, to tackle legally, i.e. to tackle below the shoulder.

If he goes high, it should be a free kick against him. He should either learn to tackle correctly, or next time, be first to the footy.

We are constantly trying to work out how to keep the play open. Here is a thought: force players to tackle legally! Give the bloke who won the footy in the first place the right to duck and weave around a tackler. If he gets caught legally, fair enough, but if he receives a high one, he must win the free kick.
You are being deliberately obtuse
 

NoobPie

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Actually, come to think of it if Steve Hocking is serious about reducing tackling this is the sure fire way to achieve it - just make it absolute that if there is any high contact made on the player with the ball it is a free kick regardless of that player's contribution. People can just head but a tackling arm and they are awarded with a free kick!
 

Gigantor

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Actually, come to think of it if Steve Hocking is serious about reducing tackling this is the sure fire way to achieve it - just make it absolute that if there is any high contact made on the player with the ball it is a free kick regardless of that player's contribution. People can just head but a tackling arm and they are awarded with a free kick!
Whoever is first to the footy should be the one getting the benefit of the doubt. Onus is on the bloke second to the footy to tackle legally.
 

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Whoever is first to the footy should be the one getting the benefit of the doubt. Onus is on the bloke second to the footy to tackle legally.
Problem is these days all these 'first to the ball blokes' actually want to be tackled so they can not dispose of the ball and cause a stoppage. You see it hundreds of times a game. When I was a kid if you got tackled with the ball and didn't get rid of it you got pinged.
 

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Problem is these days all these 'first to the ball blokes' actually want to be tackled so they can not dispose of the ball and cause a stoppage. You see it hundreds of times a game. When I was a kid if you got tackled with the ball and didn't get rid of it you got pinged.
If there's no prior, and the tackle is legal, it's a ball up.
What you have said should not be a justification to allow the tackler to go high.
 
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