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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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This is an interesting observation and is actually a fair point which leads to a couple of observations

1) It aligns with the view of people like Monocle who have been critical of our use of Oscar Allen as a backup ruck early in his career and how that may have contributed to his injury concerns

2) Reinforces my concerns around taking Cooper Duff-Tytler with our early pick, particularly if we don’t end up with the Allen compo

Dylan Alexander talked about this in a recent video also, when he was talking about CDT. Clubs are very weary of picking ruckman that early because of this.

Of course, they could just stick them in the 2s for a few years and expose them gradually but they probably can't help themselves not to throw them straight in.

NicNat a bit of an outlier, as he was quite durable until he did his knee but then, he got to develop behind Cox and alongside Lycett for a few years.
 


This is an interesting observation and is actually a fair point which leads to a couple of observations

1) It aligns with the view of people like Monocle who have been critical of our use of Oscar Allen as a backup ruck early in his career and how that may have contributed to his injury concerns

2) Reinforces my concerns around taking Cooper Duff-Tytler with our early pick, particularly if we don’t end up with the Allen compo


Barnett to be the next Cox and Gawn combined!
 

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Tom Evans hasn't been a big performer in the YG games.
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Port still had a top 10 pick when they went after JHF. North got the 2 players they rated at 1 & 2 in the draft. the Eagles weren't going to select Wardlaw and got a guy they had in the top 5 and an extra pick they used on Hewitt.

Geelongs first pick this year is likely 12-18. With the NGA & Father sons that pick is likely high 20's, possibly 30+. Next years one will be better but i still think this Future first is likely around pick 15-25 depending on the usual. Its actually up to the manager to guide the player to a club that can get the trade done.

In saying this, I expect Harley to stay for 1 more contract.
Why do you expect him to stay?
 
I would only take CDT is if we had a band 1 compo from Oscar. We ned to get at least 1 elite midfield prospect to go with Harley (assuming he stays) and Hewitt (assuming he's fit).
We are not taking CDT unless we know he will grow in height.
And iam pretty sure he wont, so cant see us picking him
Will have to wait and see.
if we have pick 1 and 2 i would think we would trade pick 1 if its CDT and Duursma in the that selection frame.
Duursma will never be a inside mid and doesn't like the physical side of the game so cant see us picking him.
Sharp and Greeves do not have what we need either
 
We are not taking CDT unless we know he will grow in height.
And iam pretty sure he wont, so cant see us picking him
Will have to wait and see.
if we have pick 1 and 2 i would think we would trade pick 1 if its CDT and Duursma in the that selection frame.
Duursma will never be a inside mid and doesn't like the physical side of the game so cant see us picking him.
Sharp and Greeves do not have what we need either
So you’re saying we’re trading 1 and 2 for 4 picks inside top 15?
 
So you’re saying we’re trading 1 and 2 for 4 picks inside top 15?

We’re a long way out from the draft but if it transpires that we do have the first two picks and CDT separates himself as a clear No.1 pick…

then I’d be shopping pick 1 around to see if there was a club desperate enough for him to trade up to give us a pick in the top 6 or so plus another good pick this year or next

Use pick 2 on whoever we consider the best mid, get someone like Rodriguez with the traded pick and then have another pick to go along with the Hawthorn R1 and our own R2

It’s an extra tip pick simply for bypassing someone (CDT) we don’t want - obviously dependant on getting a very good offer for pick 1

Alternatively we just take two mids with picks 1 and 2 and let CDT slide- likely to Richmond

I wouldn’t trade out of pick 1 if we didn’t have pick 2
 
We’re a long way out from the draft but if it transpires that we do have the first two picks and CDT separates himself as a clear No.1 pick…

then I’d be shopping pick 1 around to see if there was a club desperate enough for him to trade up to give us a pick in the top 6 or so plus another good pick this year or next

Use pick 2 on whoever we consider the best mid, get someone like Rodriguez with the traded pick and then have another pick to go along with the Hawthorn R1 and our own R2

It’s an extra tip pick simply for bypassing someone (CDT) we don’t want - obviously dependant on getting a very good offer for pick 1

Alternatively we just take two mids with picks 1 and 2 and let CDT slide- likely to Richmond

I wouldn’t trade out of pick 1 if we didn’t have pick 2
Can’t wait for the Kornes spin on this one 😅
 
We are not taking CDT unless we know he will grow in height.
And iam pretty sure he wont, so cant see us picking him
Will have to wait and see.
if we have pick 1 and 2 i would think we would trade pick 1 if its CDT and Duursma in the that selection frame.
Duursma will never be a inside mid and doesn't like the physical side of the game so cant see us picking him.
Sharp and Greeves do not have what we need either
Why are we casually dismissing Sharp as not what we need? He seems exactly what we need. Who do we rake at 2 in this scenario do you think?
 
When you see the fat man at Freo struggling to put games in a row together, it just reinforces we can't afford to sign Oscar to a big long term deal given his injury history and age, against where we are as a list. You can't tie up so much money on a player you can't guarantee will be fit.

We did the right thing by not giving Barrass the revised longterm deal, lets hope we keep our heads and do the same with Oscar.
 

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ever since sean darcy signed his long term contract I felt he was destined to be a salary dump at some point.
but he's so slow around the ground im not sure many clubs would even be interested anymore.

On Darcy Cameron, hopefully if we do get a PP from AFL it'll be something like norf got -> ie. end of first rounder we need to use to trade. That would be ideal.

Still need to draft some 208cm kid and just develop him underneath, but at least cameron should gives us a few years to get that next kid ready.
 
ever since sean darcy signed his long term contract I felt he was destined to be a salary dump at some point.
but he's so slow around the ground im not sure many clubs would even be interested anymore.

On Darcy Cameron, hopefully if we do get a PP from AFL it'll be something like norf got -> ie. end of first rounder we need to use to trade. That would be ideal.

Still need to draft some 208cm kid and just develop him underneath, but at least cameron should gives us a few years to get that next kid ready.

I'd take Darcy in a salary dump situation. People forget that we now have the premier strength and conditioning team in the land, he's a certainty to come to us and play 25 games next season. Let's rehab Fyfe while we are at it and send TK and Owies back their way.
 
We are not taking CDT unless we know he will grow in height.
And iam pretty sure he wont, so cant see us picking him
Will have to wait and see.
if we have pick 1 and 2 i would think we would trade pick 1 if its CDT and Duursma in the that selection frame.
Duursma will never be a inside mid and doesn't like the physical side of the game so cant see us picking him.
Sharp and Greeves do not have what we need either
What do you base your inexpert comments on Duursma ?
 

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Want to know peoples thoughts. AFL 2025 draft starts tomorrow and as a hypothetical Oscar does leave giving us pick 2 or 3. Who are we drafting with pick 1 and 2 or 3. GO!

Simply, the two best midfield/-adjacent players with actual stoppage craft, agility and ground ball game, and accumulation.

No talls; no one who plays behind the ball. As such:

I wouldn't take Lindsay under any circumstances. Don't ever spend a top 5 on an outsider. He plays more like Dylan Shiel than Dylan Shiel.

Agree.
 
For the MSD just take Kuol mun. We need a ruck, he needs time, so give him every moment we can and hope that in 18 moths he's ready to go for 2027. Parfitt type is just meh, would much rather play our kids than Parfitt.


"renowned for his natural leap and mobility, is coming off his best VFL game yet, booting 2.1 from 20 disposals, 17 contested possessions, nine clearances, nine score involvements, three contested marks and 39 hit-outs."
 
ever since sean darcy signed his long term contract I felt he was destined to be a salary dump at some point.
but he's so slow around the ground im not sure many clubs would even be interested anymore.

On Darcy Cameron, hopefully if we do get a PP from AFL it'll be something like norf got -> ie. end of first rounder we need to use to trade. That would be ideal.

Still need to draft some 208cm kid and just develop him underneath, but at least cameron should gives us a few years to get that next kid ready.
Agree re the Darcy Cameron PP suggedtion
Otherwise, straight swap for TK
 
Who do we take if we have 2 picks inside top 3.
2 best midfielders with a mixture of foot skills and contested game and can accumulate.
Really hard to find high quality mids this season so far and the champs will sort a few.

At this time it is Sharp, Rodriguez are the 2 with the all round games, they all have deficiencies.
Greeves is a ball winning beast, his kicking is below the standard of Sharp and Rodriguez.
Swadling is coming with a rush as an inside/outside type.
Lindsay and Grilj are HB/Wing types with great skills, especially Lindsay but you would pick him after top 10 in a draft.
WC need absolute quality mids x 2.
 
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