Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

[edgie]

Lol borders closing again are a joke.

The next step is lockdown.

Lockdown, closure, I don't care, but it's showing that those in charge have no faith in a majority vaccinated population.

So why get it.

Oh, so you don't get sick or die or spread it.

Right, so why does the government still think I will?

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[Janus]

You need to be more careful with the facts. Pericarditis is inflammation of the pericardium ( the thin sac around the heart) not a heart attack.

The amount of cut and paste scientific research you post, I thought you would have known that.

You would also know that most people recover from it.

Also are you aware that pericarditis can occur from covid19 infection too. Most recover from that too with supportive treatment.

But, more importantly, who on here would be celebrating that a young person is in hospital with pericarditis? Who? No one I know on here.

Pericarditis can be caused by a heart attack.



But of course, you’ll once again latch onto the most insignificant while the point passes you by.

The point is, here is this fit athlete, undertaking an AFL preseason and he’s having to go to hospital for something that should never have happened. The people who suffer from pericarditis due to COVID are already disposed to cardiovascular issues - generally they have high blood pressure already, are obese or diabetic.

People say that the AFL industry is a microcosm of society at large. If something like this happens to a player, albeit a top up player, it tells me that adverse affects of the vaccines are being under reported.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Israel is hoping that the boosters last for a long time, but its really a wait and see prospect.
What do you do if they don't? This sh*t has to end at some point.
Either get some better vaccines or move the fu** on.

It’s frustrating for sure but of course they are working on other vaccines as fast as they safely and physically can.

People with chronic illnesses often have to have daily, twice daily, weekly or monthly injections to deal with their symptoms and illness and they just get on with it.

If we need a booster again in 6 month or even yearly, so be it but that might not be necessary.

There are several other vaccines that require several doses to acquire full immunisation.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Pericarditis can be caused by a heart attack.

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But of course, you’ll once again latch onto the most insignificant while the point passes you by.

The point is, here is this fit athlete, undertaking an AFL preseason and he’s having to go to hospital for something that should never have happened. The people who suffer from pericarditis due to COVID are already disposed to cardiovascular issues - generally they have high blood pressure already, are obese or diabetic.

People say that the AFL industry is a microcosm of society at large. If something like this happens to a player, albeit a top up player, it tells me that adverse affects of the vaccines are being under reported.

Um…it was NOT a heart attack as you had stated….get it? At least be honest.

Um and you are also wrong about pericarditis only affecting those with health issues.

Plenty of fit atheletes in US have suffered pericarditis from covid19 infection, get it?

Now no one has denied that it is a rare side effect of the vaccines too, it is well publicised in mainstream media.

Have you heard of Eastern European troll farms? You should go into your deep web investigate that and their involvement with the vax disinformation and lockdown movement. It is quite fascinating.

 

[backtozero]

It’s frustrating for sure but of course they are working on other vaccines as fast as they safely and physically can.

People with chronic illnesses often have to have daily, twice daily, weekly or monthly injections to deal with their symptoms and illness and they just get on with it.

If we need a booster again in 6 month or even yearly, so be it but that might not be necessary.

There are several other vaccines that require several doses to acquire full immunisation.

So we need to treat the entire population of the world as if they have a chronic illness and make them drug dependent? Great solution.

 

[backtozero]

Um…he did NOT have a heart attack….get it? At least be honest.

Um and you are also wrong about pericarditis only affecting those with health issues.

Plenty of fit atheletes in US have suffered pericarditis from covid19 infection, get it?

Now no one has said it is not a rare side effect of the vaccines too, it is well publicised in mainstream media.

Surely you can admit that having to choose between pericarditis from the vax or pericarditis from the virus is a shit choice? How about safer vaccines?

For most fit 24 year olds, covid is the sniffles, not a death sentence. Now he has to deal with damaged heart tissue which never repairs itself. It's not a small thing.

 

[Contested Marx]

The boosters weren't developed for delta.

I didn't say that they have. What I was saying was that they can

COVID-19

COVID-19 is the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that emerged in December 2019. Learn about symptoms, diagnosis, treatment and prevention.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

“We deal with mutations every year for flu virus, and will keep an eye on this coronavirus and track it,” says Bollinger. “If there would ever be a major mutation, the vaccine development process can accommodate changes, if necessary,” he explains.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

South Australia’s Covid-19 chiefs will on Saturday consider an emergency borders crackdown with NSW and Victoria over fears about Omicron as the state records its first mysterious local case in 19 months. The emergency directions committee meeting, chaired by SA Health chief executive Chris McGowan, will decide if borders with NSW, Victoria and the ACT should be tightened, and possibly closed, to prevent the highly infectious strain spreading in SA.

 

[backtozero]

I didn't say that they have. What I was saying was that they can

COVID-19

COVID-19 is the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that emerged in December 2019. Learn about symptoms, diagnosis, treatment and prevention.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

“We deal with mutations every year for flu virus, and will keep an eye on this coronavirus and track it,” says Bollinger. “If there would ever be a major mutation, the vaccine development process can accommodate changes, if necessary,” he explains.

I know they can. I said they haven't yet.
The booster shot is the same as the first 2 that everyone got which lasts a few months.

 

[Contested Marx]

I know they can. I said they haven't yet.
The booster shot is the same as the first 2 that everyone got which lasts a few months.

Cool

 

[OneGreatClub]

Surely you can admit that having to choose between pericarditis from the vax or pericarditis from the virus is a sh*t choice? How about safer vaccines?

For most fit 24 year olds, covid is the sniffles, not a death sentence. Now he has to deal with damaged heart tissue which never repairs itself. It's not a small thing.

I agree it is not a small thing and if only we had vaccinations with zero rare side effects, but we don’t yet, and probably never will, all drugs have side effects, but when we open up Covid19 will spread with the highest percentage of cases likely being in the young mobile 20 to 39 age group. Athletes, young and fit , in the prime of their lives can suffer issues such as pericarditis from contracting the virus.

High Prevalence of Pericardial Involvement in College Student Athletes Recovering From COVID-19 - PubMed

More than 1 in 3 previously healthy college athletes recovering from COVID-19 infection showed imaging features of a resolving pericardial inflammation. Although subtle changes in myocardial structure and function were identified, no athlete showed specific imaging features to suggest an ongoing...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Myocarditis in Athletes After COVID-19 Infection

A significant number of cases of post-COVID-19 myocarditis have been reported.

www.thecardiologyadvisor.com

UpToDate

www.uptodate.com

Pericarditis Following Recovery From COVID-19 Infection in a 15-Year-Old Boy: A Postinflammatory Immune-Mediated Presentation or a New-Onset Autoimmune Disease

As the COVID-19 pandemic evolves, the medical community continues to report a variety of clinical manifestations of SARS-CoV-2 in the pediatric population. Although younger age groups experience less severe disease, attention is given to the immunologic manifestations of the disease...

www.cureus.com

Coronavirus (COVID-19) case numbers and statistics

This page provides updates about the current situation, latest case numbers and related information. It is updated every day by 9 pm AEST and reflects the previous 24 hours.

www.health.gov.au

 

[OneGreatClub]

So we need to treat the entire population of the world as if they have a chronic illness and make them drug dependent? Great solution.

No. You see that is slippery slope thinking. My point is there is a lot of whinging on here about having to have a booster or potentially two and I was pointing out that there are millions of people worldwide who have injections up to twice daily because they need to, they just get on with it. It is the least of our worries.

 

[backtozero]

No. You see that is slippery slope thinking. My point is there is a lot of whinging on here about having to have a booster or potentially two and I was pointing out that there are millions of people worldwide who have injections up to twice daily because they need to, they just get on with it. It is the least of our worries.

How frequently would you be willing to have a booster?

 

[Andre]

They hadn't made it a public holiday but they did say that people who work on Christmas Day would get penalty rates.

But in exchange they took away penalty rates for Christmas Eve... would would negatively affect even more people.

The bigger one is why are we still having penalty rates for anyway? They are a 1950's left over from when most men worked 9 to 5, the family went to church on Sunday morning (Yah for SA still having 11am shop openings!) and women belonged in the kitchen not the workforce. That they still exist almost a quarter of the way through the 21st century is laughable.

 

[Chewy316]

What a shitshow - only 10 days into opening the borders and we get shut out to half the country and are now about to shut out the other half of the country. SA has become the Wonka chocolate factory - "nobody ever goes in, and nobody ever comes out!"

It's sh*t that SA Health are not listing all exposures sites. Give people all of the information so they know what to do. People have been for the most part compliant in following directions throughout the pandemic, so do the right thing and give people the information they need rather than throwing your hands in the air and not bothering anymore.

They have not been releasing all of the exposure sites going back to when the "pandemic" started last year.

I know for a fact there was a Hungry Jack's in the northern suburbs that was an exposure site not listed publicly by SA Health. The rationale when I queried this with a person in state politics was that the amount of people who attend that specific HJ's on a daily basis was through the roof - and no doubt people who even weren't present at the exposure site at the specific time would have tested out of "an abundance of caution." So this had the potential to severely clog up the testing - hence, SA Health and SAPOL used a more measured approach and contacted people individually through financial transactions and QR Codes.

 

[OneGreatClub]

How frequently would you be willing to have a booster?

Six monthly if I had to, but I feel there is a very very low chance of that.

 

[backtozero]

Six monthly if I had to, but I feel there is a very very low chance of that.

Are you aware that the UK is saying that should be halved?

It's all well and good to say the vaccines will get better, and I hope they do, but there will be a tipping point for everybody and most will just end up saying **** this.

 

[dav3]

Pericarditis can be caused by a heart attack.

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But of course, you’ll once again latch onto the most insignificant while the point passes you by.

The point is, here is this fit athlete, undertaking an AFL preseason and he’s having to go to hospital for something that should never have happened. The people who suffer from pericarditis due to COVID are already disposed to cardiovascular issues - generally they have high blood pressure already, are obese or diabetic.

People say that the AFL industry is a microcosm of society at large. If something like this happens to a player, albeit a top up player, it tells me that adverse affects of the vaccines are being under reported.

You also appear to be latching onto something that's fairly insignificant

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/03/04/athletes-myocarditis-heart-covid-19/

 

[OneGreatClub]

Are you aware that the UK is saying that should be halved?

For the third booster, to bring it forward?
I hear there is a massive antibody spike from the booster so hopefully it lasts a long time. As I mentioned previously, this might end up being a three dose vaccine.
Anyway they are looking at oral vaccines too I think I heard. Things will get better.
We might he done with covid right now bit covid isn’t done with us, so we have to do the best we can. My opinion anyway.

 

[backtozero]

For the third booster, to bring it forward?
I hear there is a massive antibody spike from the booster so hopefully it lasts a long time. As I mentioned previously, this might end up being a three dose vaccine.
Anyway they are looking at oral vaccines too I think I heard. Things will get better.
We might he done with covid right now bit covid isn’t done with us, so we have to do the best we can. My opinion anyway.

Yes.

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Del165198]

Are you aware that the UK is saying that should be halved?

It's all well and good to say the vaccines will get better, and I hope they do, but there will be a tipping point for everybody and most will just end up saying fu** this.

I doubt it. While the risk from the virus is significantly more than the inconvenience of getting a jab, then most will get the jab if that continues to be the medical advice.

I don't usually get the flu jab because I figure I can ride out the flu if need be. I'd still rather not take chances with covid because it's a more severe illness.

 

[Ray Nolan]

This is ridiculous. You can't just keep shutting borders every time a new variant appears. Note to the Premier, you are elected to run the state, not the bureaucrats. Covid is never going away, we must now learn to live with it.

 

[TeeKray]

Exactly, what have we gained? We now have the virus in the community and we are being progressively shut out by other States and Territories. All they had to do was keep the Victorian border closed.

The whole point of national cabinet agreeing to the target of 80% was that most states would reach it at approximately the same time and you wouldn't have these problems. WA saying 'nah screw that, we're going for 90' is a problem here, as is SA now panicking and closing their own borders to places with 90% vax rates.

 

[backtozero]

I doubt it. While the risk from the virus is significantly more than the inconvenience of getting a jab, then most will get the jab if that continues to be the medical advice.

I don't usually get the flu jab because I figure I can ride out the flu if need be. I'd still rather not take chances with covid because it's a more severe illness.

Kind of off topic, but don't you have the ability to avoid people in general where you live?

 

[edgie]

The bigger one is why are we still having penalty rates for anyway? They are a 1950's left over from when most men worked 9 to 5, the family went to church on Sunday morning (Yah for SA still having 11am shop openings!) and women belonged in the kitchen not the workforce. That they still exist almost a quarter of the way through the 21st century is laughable.

This opinion is laughable

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