Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 2

[Chief]

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Sydney Kicker]

Pete Evans has a bio charger he will sell you for $15k to help you feel better.
He claims it's even got some recipes for corona virus.

Chef Pete Evans criticised for trying to sell $15,000 light device to fight coronavirus

Website ad claimed BioCharger machine was a ‘subtle energy revitalisation platform’

www.theguardian.com

Surely he's committed some sort of offence by promoting this. At the least there's an issue with consumer law around misleading claims.

Would love to see this conman behind bars.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Chef Pete Evans criticised for trying to sell $15,000 light device to fight coronavirus

Website ad claimed BioCharger machine was a ‘subtle energy revitalisation platform’

www.theguardian.com

Surely he's committed some sort of offence by promoting this. At the least there's an issue with consumer law around misleading claims.

Would love to see this conman behind bars.

Do we also arrest the evangelical guys for claiming your belief in god will keep the virus away ?

 

[Gralin]

Do we also arrest the evangelical guys for claiming your belief in god will keep the virus away ?

Two birds?

 

[Sydney Kicker]

Do we also arrest the evangelical guys for claiming your belief in god will keep the virus away ?

I'd back god seven days of the week against Pete Evans and I'm pretty much an atheist. The evangelicals aren't selling books or other trinkets that promise a cure (not directly anyway).

With the evangelical guys, the virus will probably thin out some of the population anyway.

 

[Hawk Dork]

The evangelicals aren't selling books or other trinkets that promise a cure (not directly anyway).

With the evangelical guys, the virus will probably thin out some of the population anyway.

yes they are and they are tax deductible
The problem is they also go down to Bondi when they come out for the convention and spread it around

 

[Gralin]

I'd back god seven days of the week against Pete Evans and I'm pretty much an atheist. The evangelicals aren't selling books or other trinkets that promise a cure (not directly anyway).

With the evangelical guys, the virus will probably thin out some of the population anyway.

They are both selling lies to people desperate to believe.

 

[Sydney Kicker]

yes they are and they are tax deductible
The problem is they also go down to Bondi when they come out for the convention and spread it around

If they sell anything (a good - I know they sell healing "services") specifically promising to help against COVID then they also should be prosecuted. Obviously under ScoMo that isn't happening of course. Or Trump, who could also be done himself for promoting fraudulent cures.

Agree with your second point. Backpackers and bogans do this too. For the parishoners though, this is more about stupidity, not crime.

 

[burge13]

This thread heaps quieter than usual. People must be at BBQs and the like?

 

[MarcMaverick]

Seems like some unrest here

Crossbenchers call for change to 'nonsensical' coronavirus restrictions

Like many Victorians, David Cox doesn't understand why he can't sit in a park with his family if they keep their distance from others. Some MPs say he's got a point.

www.abc.net.au

 

[darcytiger]

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[TubbsFarquhar]

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I'm outraged, a fish 'n' chips shop run by Asians is generally of poor quality.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Also for those want "head to roll" One has already done that

NSW Arts Minister resigns after breaking coronavirus lockdown rules

Don Harwin resigns after being caught breaking coronavirus lockdown regulations by visiting his Central Coast holiday home.

www.abc.net.au

 

[11kgm]

I don't get why the numbers being quoted from Dictatorships are being believed

 

[darcytiger]

I'm outraged, a fish 'n' chips shop run by Asians is generally of poor quality.

Hard to find one that isn’t these days. These guys do a good job though

 

[Gralin]

I don't get why the numbers being quoted from Dictatorships are being believed

None of the numbers are accurate.
New York is only counting deaths that happened in hospital as covid, someone dies at home or before they get tested they just shrug and move on.
280 people died in New York yesterday that weren't part of the toll but some of them should have been. We just don't know how many

 

[Sylvia Saint]

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Looks like most people are outside and keeping their distance.

 

[burge13]

None of the numbers are accurate.
New York is only counting deaths that happened in hospital as covid, someone dies at home or before they get tested they just shrug and move on.
280 people died in New York yesterday that weren't part of the toll but some of them should have been. We just don't know how many

But the flipside of that is someone whos been battling cancer and whatever else gets covid is considered a covid statistic which also isnt completely true. Dying with and dying because of are different...

 

[Hamingja]

I'm outraged, a fish 'n' chips shop run by Asians is generally of poor quality.

Greeks have a good racket where they build a shop up and then sell them off to the Asians. Rinse, repeat.

 

[Gralin]

But the flipside of that is someone whos been battling cancer and whatever else gets covid is considered a covid statistic which also isnt completely true. Dying with and dying because of are different...

And if they werent going to die without getting covid?

 

[dumb]

Seems like some unrest here

Crossbenchers call for change to 'nonsensical' coronavirus restrictions

Like many Victorians, David Cox doesn't understand why he can't sit in a park with his family if they keep their distance from others. Some MPs say he's got a point.

www.abc.net.au

Concerns about a loss of civil liberties are valid, but some of the arguments are insidiously counterproductive, and shortsighted. It's not possible to create nuanced restrictions like someone living in an apartment being freer to exercise, without having some sort of information about them to call on.
Blanket bans are brute force and definitely can be harsh, but you don't need to keep someone's life story on file.

 

[burge13]

And if they werent going to die without getting covid?

Well they wouldn't have died without the former. Reporting it as just corona isnt entirely truthful in the same way your example not counting some stats isnt.

 

[Gralin]

Well they wouldn't have died without the former. Reporting it as just corona isnt entirely truthful in the same way your example not counting some stats isnt.

Healthy people can die from it.
Some groups are more likely to die from it.

We know that. If they weren't going to die without catching corona then they should absolutely be reported in the statistics.

This isnt someone who had it dying from a gunshot wound being included.

 

[craigos]

How deluded one must be to think every other country on earth is manipulating their figures but then being steadfast in the fact our statistics are "world leaders" is mind numbing.

 

[craigos]

i know for a fact that our numbers aren't what they seem. We are doing insanely well, insanely well, but the figures are not accurate.

 

[peternorth]

i know for a fact that our numbers aren't what they seem. We are doing insanely well, insanely well, but the figures are not accurate.

no ones figures are accurate