Some players you just like due to their style, how they act on the field etc., as well as ability of course.
I loved Lockett. Probably my favourite non-Geelong ever. Had a ton of admiration for Williams.
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Some players you just like due to their style, how they act on the field etc., as well as ability of course.
I loved Lockett. Probably my favourite non-Geelong ever. Had a ton of admiration for Williams.
Had to respond just to this. In all the years I've heard about Skilton (and universally how great he was), I've never heard his prowess as a forward discussed. Had a look at his start to 1968 - 42 touches and 7 goals against St.Kilda, backed up by 25 touches and 5 goals against Hawthorn. It's really mindblowing that it isn't more well known.
Full disclosure - my Geelong supporting Dad for years had two players he couldn't separate as the best he'd seen: John Coleman and Bob Skilton. He put Ablett up there eventually as well.
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I saw Flower play, but never at his best unfortunately - plenty of highlights to be found on YouTube though, I posted a couple of packages on the MB last year.
2 other more modern (ie AFL-era) players I loved watching were Peter Matera and Andrew McLeod. Along with Daicos and Doull they are among the most watchable opposition players I’ve seen …
Williams is an interesting one. Probably others I liked more but looking back ..he did a lot I like.
him v turner... was like speed boat V yacht... so balanced. I think Turner would be awesome now..yet I wonder about Flower with the lack of space. Just an element of the game that is gone. Almost like pro sports .. How would Ken Rosewall go in the tennis now?
Watchable...there is another category
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What made Flower and Greig all-time greats wasn't just their pace, it was the ability they shared (and share) with many of the other all-time greats, the ability to "make time stand still", to "make space", because they read the play/the ball/the opponent better than anyone else. Think Baldock in the 60s to GAS in the 80s, and many greats before and since those two.
Flower and Greig would be great footballers now, as they were then.
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Yes, the game was just starting to get really fast, and opening up as one result.
I haven’t been a huge attender in person of VFL/AFL games over the years. I’ve probably seen 50-100 games live tops. I saw Flower single handedly destroy a mid table type Richmond team one day, and it was the most impressed I have ever been with a player in a match I saw live. It was like there were 35 players playing one sport and he was playing a completely different game. Robert Flower imo would easily adapt to modern footy, as a brilliant winger, an intercepting half back or as a small forward. Without wishing to be too disrespectful, if players like Darcy Byrne-Jones are coping well enough to play finals and win All Australian selection, I don’t think Flower would have any issue at all.
There is just something that sets these type of speedy players apart from certain other quick guys, it is the balance at high speed. It allows them to execute marks and disposals and ground ball gathers at absolute top speed with great efficiency. It sounds a bit boring the way I have written it there but it is breathtaking. Keith Grieg is mentioned above in the thread and he was definitely similar in that regard. Kevin Bartlett didn’t have the overhead game or even the polished disposal of the other two, but he did have that same trait, incredible balance at top speed.
Fred my concern is the way the game is no long spread. Yes he would adapt.. but I cant think of too many player like him now that cant stop time. Some indig players can I guess.
It seemed most teams had a good one. Hawkins at the Dogs for ex.
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the wingers from this period already mentioned in the last few posts are the cream; Flower, Grieg, Hawkins, our own Mick Turner - it was a more specialised position in those days though, and even someone like Ricky Barham helped epitomise the wingers of the era - he was almost a bit Turner like at times.
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Hird 1999-2002 was a monster
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Love the references to the past greats, but time to steer this thread back to the topic pls....
I'm looking for a Danger turn around in form for my Suoercoach team this year. Has he been doing full training this preseason?
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Not heard anything to the contrary...
Thanks. Good for SC, good for the Cats and good for footy in general.
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A return to 2016 Dangerfield would do wonders for any chance of finals success.
I accept it's mostly due to injury, but his form the last 2 years has been inconsistent at best and lacking any real impact on the game.
I accept it's mostly due to injury, but his form the last 2 years has been inconsistent at best and lacking any real impact on the game.
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I feel that would only happen if he was unhindered 100% all season long.
And that just does not happen.
Now if he could pull 80% all year long... that IMO would be better than his recent level of performance. He's had better games than an 8-% PFD but he's some mares ( hurt and otherwise) and thus id take the 80% average every game thru the year.
Still very hard to manage at this stage but id love to be proven wrong.
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So the dirtier the better?
The most skillful. Lockett kicked more goals than any other player, and nearly 900 of them for a side that wasn't always that good.
Williams (along with Ablett junior) is still the best midfielder I've ever seen.
Seen far dirtier players than either of those two.
