Essendon again

[Bitch]

Westy,
Be warned! Don't even think about bagging Fraser Brown in my presence!
As for the others De Iulio, Sexton played reserves for most of the season. Mansfield and O'Reilly, well the least said about them the better. Not one of the the great Carlton decisions to recruit those two.
As for Big Jack. He may have a problem with his mouth working before his brain but he is 100% true blue, his love for the club cannot be denied. Do not be surprised though if there is not a big power change at Carlton before the start of next season.
Anyway, Westy even though you think Carlton don't have a young list I bet we still finish better than you lot next season.

 

[Westy Boy]

BET?????? ..... one years salary? How's that sound

...... let's not talk figures ok.... and sincerly bitch, i feel wrong in calling you bitch, can you recommend another nick bitch..... maybe mitch?

Ok- to what u wrote...
Who denied jack's love for the club... in fact his problem is that he is over enthusiastic.

About, Fraser, i'll not bag him if u promise to not bag Jose Romero ok......Fraser is shit.... kidding... but u can bag Jose all u want

And something shinbombers24 forgot to mention was that Essendon has a far superior strike rate in terms of premierships as opposed to Carlton wo have participated in two more years, due to the fact that they weren't involved in 1916/17..... decresing their percentage or some shit like that.... do u like men who know their stats bitch, b/c i sure know i do. What a man!! People with 24 at the end of their names are for YOU!!!

kidding

If u missed that last paragraph, don't stress, i'll reword it and say it ya another 17 times until u don't get it.

 

[Bitch]

Westy,
If I was you I would not mention premierships. You have a little catching up to do boyo!
BTW I work all day with people who talk crap and usually I can decipher what they actually mean. But what the hell you meant in that last post has got me beat.

 

[Westy Boy]

Bugger shinners, i'm the first victim of this "Dan24 bashing"- i just got abused... and made to eat humble pie.

Bitch,

Do u honestly believe i'm as pedantic as that last paragraph about the premierships??

Do u know that party animal Dan24?? Well that's what happened. IGNORE the whole paragraph!. I wouldn't bring up the number of premierships myself, for reasons that you could imagine, and that u have stated above ....really appreciated that

. I will however discuss the irrelevance of past premierships on the present day and age at a later time.

Do u need an explanation of the bet thing?? OK- i'm finishing my degree and on a miserly salary.... u on the other hand have a nice job..... that's why I wanted to bet salaries as opposed to a fixed sum.... i'm kidding... and being stupid... which you will find a lot of in my posts. I will fully understand if u never want to argue with me again

And BTW- things are very crazy today...... don't ask my why! So i can assure u that they SHOULD cool down and we can have a decent argument at a later date ok.

PS: is calling you mitch or something else ok by you bitch? I'm really uncomfortable with it!

 

[Dan26]

Boring, Westy Boy. Boring.

 

[Bitch]

Westy,
Don't you think I deserve the title of Bitch?BTW you can trade jobs with me if you want. How are you at putting up with tantrums from self centred, egotistical primadonnas?

 

[Shinboners]

Bitch

I didn't know you were James Hird's private secretary.

Can you get his autograph for me?

 

[Shinbombers24]

Hey brother

Didn't you mean Wayne Carey? No, hang on...captains of meaningless clubs don't have secretaries because they have no fans, no history, no premierships, no respect, and no money.

 

[Bitch]

Hey Shinboners,
I like that one.

 

[Shinboners]

I'm just waiting for the hand of Hird to zap me with a lightning bolt.

It's sure been nice knowing all you guys.

Cheers
SB

 

[BomberGal]

I think Essendon supporters all deserve to be arrogant, you know. Have you ever looked it up in the dictionary? As said in a newspaper report (one sometime around Essendon's Round 17 thrashing of Richmond), it doesn't mean conceited. "Insolently proud". If that's arrogant, then I'm proud to be it, and I, along with all Essendon supporters and players, have every reason to be, with what my team has achieved this year. And in some cases, calling Essendon players and supporters arrogant contradicts the dictionary, (therefore your word usage is incorrect) because it says "pretentious claims to superior importance/greatness" and that can't be true of us. It's not just claims. It's the truth - Essendon are superior and great and there is no disputing that. (How could you, after winning 24/25? And if you say 'then Carlton are too, they have won 16 premierships as well' that's not what we're solely talking about. We have acheived THE BEST season in VFL/AFL history)
And whoever made the comment that Essendon have not won as many premierships in the AFL as what had been won by them in the VFL, I should think so...the AFL has only been going about ten years! And besides, to have won two premierships in the "AFL" and not "VFL" (in talking marks because they really are the same thing, just a different name) is a great effort anyway.
If the 80's Hawthorn were so great, why didn't they perform a season as well as Essendon this year? You can't say because Hawthorn were so consistent....Essendon have only just started. You can't expect us to be wooden spoonder anytime soon!
In the right sense, ("pretentious claims to superior importance/greatness) Carlton are arrogant. They have some thing going about thinking they are the great ones, the superior ones. The club the no-one leaves. What will you say now, now that you are joint Premiership leaders? That Aaron Hamill has left? (And who could protest it? With John Elliot there...) Your own president practically got rid of Hamill. A sign of your own foolishness and stupidity.
As for John about to be leaving...if it's true then about bloody time! He has a real problem. He needs to respect other clubs and people. And stop thinking he's wonderful because he never says "Pigs ass". Perhaps he can't say it because it reminds him of what he sees in the mirror every morning...

 

[Dan26]

Do I need to say any more ??

BomberGal, you just said in a few hundred words what it would have proabably taken me 3000 words to say.

And, like you said, it's the truth. We're the best. It's up to the other "insignificant" clubs to catch us.

 

[Roylion]

Just on Dan's statement that
"Every other club has only won premierships in one century. And we (Essendon) have won them in THREE !!!!!

Some (certainly Dan will anyway) might consider this pedantic but why is it that most of the Western world appears to be under the impression we have entered the twenty-first century? The year 2000 is the last year of the TWENTIETH century and the second millenium. 1st January 100 AD was not the start of the second century either, as only 99 years after the time chosen for the birth of Christ had been completed up to that point. 1st January 101 AD was the start of the second century, just as the 1st January 201 AD was the start of the third century and 1st January 2001 will be the start of the twenty-first century. It almost as if the entire western world was brainwashed by a slick marketing machine that summarily decided that the magical changing of numbers from 19 to 20 and the Y2K bug was the start of the twenty-first century and the third millenium. It's incorrect.

Essendon therefore has only won premierships in two centuries... the nineteenth and the twentieth.. equaling Fitzroy's record. Only if (when?) Essendon wins another premiership next century will they have won premierships in three centuries, as claimed.

 

[Bitch]

Bombergal,
You are the type of Essendon supporter that makes all Carlton supporters double over with laughter. You go on about how great Essendon are but to prove your point you have to go into a big spiel about it. Why do you have to try so hard to sell your product? Nobody gives a rats arse that you had a great season there is always someone waiting around the corner to have a better one. Remember 1995? That was the greatest season ever until Essendon went one better this year! But I can understand how excited you all were when you finally equalled Carltons' 16 premierships. Woohoo, you are now up there with the greatest. Took you a while but you got there. One thing to remember though. You have only equalled our premierships, you are NOT OUR EQUAL. Try as hard as you like you will not ever be as great as the Carlton football club.
BTW get your facts straight and don't believe all the crap you read in the media. Elliott did not cause Hamill to go. Hamill went for the money and no other reason. Elliott did not at any time say anything personal about Aaron Hamill at the B&F dinner. I was there I heard the speech!

 

[Pessimistic]

This is the get pedantic board, isn't it

I always think that when people start quoting dictionary references it's a sign they have lost their case already

As for the millenium crap - how could you quote so much detail as fact and neglect to mention that christ (if he did exist) probably wasn't born in 0AD or 1AD anyway. And it took a few centuries for other parts of the world to adopt the time standard (1788 in the case of australia)So why be pedantic about the time we should celebrate ? I was born at 2am in the morning but we don't get up early to celebrate it at the exact time.

And the most annoying thing about essendon is... Their jumpers are so much like Melbourne's I got a headache trying to tell them apart at the GF

 

[Bloodstained Angel]

Well well the perennial 'Essendon is arrogant' argument has cropped up again, mainly because of the appearance of a new Carlton fan on the boards - welcome Bitch, nice name - hope you can live up to it.

Bitch has made me realise one very imporatnt thing. Essendon people are not arrogant. Essendon people are try-hards who have spent 1000's and 1000's of words in 100's of posts constantly trying to persuade the rest of us of their superiority.

They have used mountains of statistics to try and justify their point.

Well, my point is

HOW CAN YOU BE ARROGANT WHEN YOU FEEL YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN EVERTHING ALL THE TIME ?

Why can't you be TRULY arrogant and, well, just be arrogant ?

Like Bitch and some other Carlton fans I know, they are arrogant because they say so and thats all that needs to be said. Being arrogant also means being dismissive, you Essendon people would more advised to just be arrogant, not try to explain your arrogance.

If you feel you have to explain everything - well, then its not very arrogant behaviour is it ?

To be the best - just say you are the best, now THATS arrogance.

 

[Bitch]

Bloodstained Angel,
Are you sure you are not a Carlton fan in disguise? You are so right. My point exactly. Essendon sound more insecure to me than arrogant. Anyway, for years they slagged off at Blues fans for being arrogant now they want to claim the title.
The greatest? Yeah sure, more like the great pretenders!

 

[Bloodstained Angel]

Actually Bitch I hate 'em like you wouldn't believe.

The 1945 GF still rankles with this Swans fan. ... and I am just sooo looking forward to this season when you guys will make one of your VERY RARE trips to the SCG - where we will flog you - again.

As much as I can't stand the f88king Bluebaggers, I am not so rabidly one-eyed that I can't appreciate the fact that you guys do alot of things very well - like being arrogant.

Like I said in an earlier post somewhere, I secretely envy you and I'm not afraid to admit it. I also think most other fans of other clubs feel the same.

So Bitch - don't call me a closet Blues fan - I'm just saying Bombers people are try-hards and really can't match it in the arrogance stakes with you lot.

cheers

 

[Bitch]

Bloodstained,
Fair enough. Like I said before everyone hates Carlton. It's a tradition.
The point I was trying to make was you can actually see what I have been trying to put across to Essendon fans about selling themselves too hard. Also Carlton fans know what arrogant means. We don't need to look it up in the dictionary.
Are you an old South Melbourne fan or are you a Sydney convert? Excuse my ignorance, but just wondering.

 

[sandie]

OK I am an arrogant Bomber supporter but I'll say it short & sweet, we are the best at the moment & I hope we can continue being the best for a long, long time.
Pess I am sorry you had that problem at the GF, I only wish I could have, Lol, our jumpers are nothing alike, have you had your eyesight checked lately.
You will never have that problem with your team because no one else would wear those revolting colours.

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Mantis

 

[Roylion]

Yes, thanks Pessimistic. I'm well aware that the accepted date for Christ's birth (and the overwhelming evidence is that he did exist..although his claims to being the actual Son of God are somewhat doubtful) was anywhere between 8 BC and 4 BC. However the powers that be in the third century decided on a numbering system to count our years for the Christian calendar and as nominally a Christian country it isn't going to change here. At least if we're going to celebrate such an event, we could at least do it in the right YEAR...which is a little different to celebrating an event, such as a birth, at the exact minute.

I'm sure you celebrate your birthday on the actual date. Why are you so pedantic? Why not a few days either side of the actual date..., depending on your circumstances..free weekend, nice sunny day today, etc etc? What's a couple of days..let alone twelve months after all? My birthday's in a couple of days..what the hell, I'll celebrate it today..no it's a cloudy day..I'll do it when the weather gets better in a month or so.

And in any case the reason that I raised it at all, was to point out that Dan's claim that Essendon has won premierships in three centuries is INCORRECT.

 

[Bloodstained Angel]

thats more like it sandie

you are the best - no explanation / excuse / justification required

if others don't like it - tough bikkies.

 

[Bloodstained Angel]

Bitch

Just to let you know where I stand :

By a sheer accident, I found myself at Lake Oval on a dark and rainy day in 1981 and watched the South Melbourne go down in a gallant struggle against North Melbourne - I was mighty impressed by the Red & Whites though, they played great footy with alot of heart I thought.

The next year they were playing out of Sydney for the first time and I was living in Adelaide. In those days watching the Swans on live TV on Sunday afternoons was the only way most footy ever got to see any VFL on television. All this early exposure to the Swans only reinforced my loyalty and affection for them.

I have doggedly stuck with them ever since, they have almost always been Sydney but over the years I have taken the trouble to learn of their great and glorious history as South Melbourne.

Now that I actually live in Sydney - well, I couldn't be happier really.

cheers

 

[Grendel]

BSA, loved the post re the arrogance bit. sandie youve come in to late now and are just following on from what BSA said already, back to trying to justify the greatness again (dont worry, we all know you still dont measure up to the Hawks of the eighties). And on the Dons/Dees jumpers clash its as plain as day. But that can be said for a quite a few of the teams in the league.

btw to whoever said why the Hawks didnt go through with a win/loss record less teams equates higher standard of competion. More teams weakens the talent base. Ipso facto we were a better side in a stronger competion! So there, slapnut

ps Dan cheers for the rasslin news re Angle and the link.

 

[Pessimistic]

Grendel,

How arrogant were we in the eighties ? I wasn't here. And were we hated ? I hope so.

I remember the deegen were in eonfm in late eighties and they used to joke that 'this was how the finals worked'

First pays second, winner has week off..... Third plays Fourth.... etc etc..... and then when they get a winner, they play Hawthorn for the flag !