F1 F1 2024 thread

[skam85]

Alonso pushing for single lap quali to come back. I'm definitely in.

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Definitely should be for Monaco

 

[skam85]

The question is who decides what order everyone goes in?

As you can bet everyone will want to be last so they get the most track evolution.

When it was introduced in 2003, it was - Friday, drivers would do their lap in championship order. Then on Saturday it was reversed from Friday's results to set the grid.

I thought that was cool and it allowed for weird fun scenarios like a Minardi on a Friday pole

 

[Jatz]

Kinda sad to see Lewis' time at Mercedes ending like this. Should be celebrated as their all time greatest driver, but appears like they are glad to be rid of him, and him of them.

Been a hard watch.

I'm a bit torn on this.

On the one hand, I get why Mercedes have been (seemingly) prioritising George over Lewis. But as you say, this dominance they created together should have been a love fest until the end.

I absolutely understand why Lewis has had enough of them. The season is pretty bloody long now and if he feels he's getting the rough end of the stick due to his decision, it would feel like it's dragging out badly.

I kind of wonder whether this has become about because Toto/Mercedes felt jilted with finding out about the move through the rumour mill, rather than Lewis telling them directly...

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Somewhat interesting to note with how often the Australian grand prix was the first race of the season and therefore the debut race for many drivers, that with Doohan starting this weekend, the last three Australians would've made their debut somewhere else.

 

[happy_eagle]

Alonso pushing for single lap quali to come back. I'm definitely in.

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I think they should do this for sprint qualifying for the Top 10.
Would help to differentiate the sprints a bit more.

 

[Pugz89]

The question is who decides what order everyone goes in?

As you can bet everyone will want to be last so they get the most track evolution.

FP3 results dictate quali order?

 

[Vader]

If you just had it for Q3, then it can be based on Q2 times.

Makes Q2 a bit more interesting beyond just establishing the Top 10.

I wonder if the broadcasters would want it though. There would be a lot of time when cars are on outlaps/inlaps, and not to mention if a car stuffs up at Turn 1, then they just have to spend the rest of the lap filling air.

I'd like to see it trialed at a sprint next year though.

Supercars probably have it about right, with a top-10 shootout. Drivers who don't qualify in the top-10 don't make the shootout.

As for outlaps - Supercars sends drivers out for their out lap when the previous driver is half-way through their hot lap. This gives them enough time for a short interview with the driver who has just completed their lap, before the next one starts their hot lap. Having said that, I can't see them doing in-car driver interviews with the F1 drivers, as they do in Supercars.

Kayo/Foxtel have to deal with dead air while Ch7 is off on an ad-break after the 3rd & 6th cars, but F1 probably wouldn't have that TV-influenced gap.

I guess this would require Q1 & Q2 to run as normal, with Q3 replaced by a Shootout.

 

[happy_eagle]

Looking more and more likely that

Perez Out
Either Lawson or Tsunoda into the Red Bull

Hadjar into the RB

F1 news: Sergio Perez to LEAVE Red Bull as FIA confirm further Norris punishment

Monday's F1 news features a major development on Sergio Perez's Red Bull future as the FIA confirm an additional punishment for Lando Norris.

www.planetf1.com

 

[Jatz]

Think either Lawson or Tsunoda into the RB is a mistake.

Don't see Lawson going any better in it than a Gasly/Albon and Tsunoda I don't think will do much better than Perez.

 

[Not Important]

it seems to me that since russell has effectively become benz number-one driver, he’s lost it.

 

[Not Important]

Looking more and more likely that

Perez Out
Either Lawson or Tsunoda into the Red Bull

Hadjar into the RB

F1 news: Sergio Perez to LEAVE Red Bull as FIA confirm further Norris punishment

Monday's F1 news features a major development on Sergio Perez's Red Bull future as the FIA confirm an additional punishment for Lando Norris.

www.planetf1.com

or “he’s a dead man walking”

 

[happy_eagle]

or “he’s a dead man walking”

Ah the old "full support of the board"

 

[happy_eagle]

Think either Lawson or Tsunoda into the RB is a mistake.

Don't see Lawson going any better in it than a Gasly/Albon and Tsunoda I don't think will do much better than Perez.

Both will be an improvement on Perez (the guy struggles to get out of Q1), but won't be at the level of say Bottas at Mercedes, which is really what Red Bull are after.

 

[DamoESP]

Well this is damning, considering the F14T was an absolute dog of a car that Ferrari built that both oversteered and understeered at the same time

 

[DamoESP]

it seems to me that since russell has effectively become benz number-one driver, he’s lost it.

Its true to an extent, just look at this quote from him about losing out to Max at the start of the Qatar GP

 

[imadodgyumpire]

My interpretation is that Perez has lost his mojo. He knows he is not up to it. Many people think they can become World Champion in the right car. The motivation is always there. But he found out he wasn't up to it, he can't lift himself to performances that is respectable for him.

You compare him to Rosberg, for instance. Rosberg was comfortably beaten by Hamilton in 14. But he chipped away at it and made gains where he could, leading to the 2016 championship. Not only did he win it, but he was also genuinely the best MB driver that season.

Perez got 2nd last year. It was unconvincing, but it should been the beginning of finding improvements so that he could challenge or win a championship. But nup, it's too hard for him.

 

[Black_White]

Ah the old "full support of the board"

All AFL supporters know that phrase.

 

[DamoESP]

When I first saw the article title I was hopeful, but after reading it, holy **** this bloke is corrupt as shit

FIA seeks rule changes in wake of president allegations

The FIA wants to limit the ways its leadership can be held to account for bad governance after allegations were made against its president.

www.bbc.com

Motorsport's governing body wants to change its rules to limit the ways its leadership can be held to account for bad governance.

These would ensure that any ethics complaints were overseen by the FIA president and president of its senate, rather than the senate itself.

And they would remove the power of the audit committee to investigate financial issues independently.

 

[Not Important]

Its true to an extent, just look at this quote from him about losing out to Max at the start of the Qatar GP

he’s lost all confidence. a sad way to go out.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Looking more and more likely that

Perez Out
Either Lawson or Tsunoda into the Red Bull

Hadjar into the RB

F1 news: Sergio Perez to LEAVE Red Bull as FIA confirm further Norris punishment

Monday's F1 news features a major development on Sergio Perez's Red Bull future as the FIA confirm an additional punishment for Lando Norris.

www.planetf1.com

I doubt they will sack perez (although I hope they do).

But Lawson isn't ready to be Max's team-mate and they hate yuki.

Hadjar isn't ready either.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Both will be an improvement on Perez (the guy struggles to get out of Q1), but won't be at the level of say Bottas at Mercedes, which is really what Red Bull are after.

If they wanted that they should have signed Sainz.

 

[happy_eagle]

If they wanted that they should have signed Sainz.

If you were Williams you would almost take that deal now.

Sainz out + the money that Red Bull will have to put up to get him.
Albon and Colapinto drivers for 2025

 

[happy_eagle]

All set up for Max to retire after 2026

 

[Festerz]

All set up for Max to retire after 2026

Yep.

A reminder that the Dutch GP, unlike most, is a fully privately owned and operated business (not including €4 million infrastructure support provided by the Zandvoort Council). The owners have capitalised on the rise and success of local boy Max Verstappen and obviously think that the future commercial viability of the GP without him is limited.

Shame to see these historic European GPs disappear but without substantial state funding/subsidies - either in part or full - most GPs would financial disasters. Until the 10 year deal was signed with Liberty earlier this year, even the Silverstone British GP in the home of most GP constructors was in peril of disappearing from the calendar.

 

[Cromulant]

Yep.

A reminder that the Dutch GP, unlike most, is a fully privately owned and operated business (not including €4 million infrastructure support provided by the Zandvoort Council). The owners have capitalised on the rise and success of local boy Max Verstappen and obviously think that the future commercial viability of the GP without him is limited.

Shame to see these historic European GPs disappear but without substantial state funding/subsidies - either in part or full - most GPs would financial disasters. Until the 10 year deal was signed with Liberty earlier this year, even the Silverstone British GP in the home of most GP constructors was in peril of disappearing from the calendar.

I believe the shortfall of the Melbourne GP this year was over 100mil.... with a record crowd

Absolutely absurd that this could be the case.