Society/Culture Finsbury Park Mosque terror attack
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Who told you he's a racist hypocrite?
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Holy snapping dog turds...what a load of s**t.
Interesting to see the part about the elderly getting forced out of enclaves. I'd heard about this but had never seen the evidence.
A white racist who defends blacks, gays and Jews from Muslim gangs. He must be stopped!
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More than prepared to assist with this project. Fond of women who wear head scarves I am.
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This isnt the thread to hang s**t on Islam. I wont say it again.
Ordinary Muslims were the victims of this attack. Some of them even intervened to protect the very man that had just rammed a van into a bunch of people.
Even the head (and founder) of the EDL above clearly states that the issue is with (the Salaffi/ Wahhabi) branches of the religion who adhere to a 7th century interpretation of the religon, and not with ordinary Muslims (the majority).
Its akin to a thread on the Manchester attack focussing on why the 14 year old girls at the concert were s**t.
Be better than that.
Ordinary Muslims were the victims of this attack. Some of them even intervened to protect the very man that had just rammed a van into a bunch of people.
Even the head (and founder) of the EDL above clearly states that the issue is with (the Salaffi/ Wahhabi) branches of the religion who adhere to a 7th century interpretation of the religon, and not with ordinary Muslims (the majority).
Its akin to a thread on the Manchester attack focussing on why the 14 year old girls at the concert were s**t.
Be better than that.
Halfway through it now, probably wouldn't have watched it if you hadn't also suggested it.
Pretty ****ed. Really gives another perspective.
I agree, a lot of em who are crticising are proposing extreme measures like banning them from entering our country, deporting them drowning them in pigs blood, throwing them off the plane in Raqqa, calling them incestuous pedophiles etc etc.
I am all for criticsm of organised religion, islam first and foremost but lets draw a line. Most of them who are criticising Islam are racially stereotyping all Muslims as extremists.
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If you want to be critical of Islam take it to a different thread.
This is the third time I have had to say this, and someone has already got a day off for not listening to the last two warnings.
We get it; Salafissm and Wahhabism are bad. We have a thread for that.
This is a thread discussing a despicable at of terrorism against Muslims. Not a thread for Right wing loons to continue that same terrorism by demonising them generally.
This is the third time I have had to say this, and someone has already got a day off for not listening to the last two warnings.
We get it; Salafissm and Wahhabism are bad. We have a thread for that.
This is a thread discussing a despicable at of terrorism against Muslims. Not a thread for Right wing loons to continue that same terrorism by demonising them generally.
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How is it terrorism? Which groups have taken responsibly? Exactly, none. An isolated event in the overall scheme of things.
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Terrorism isn't reliant on a group taking credit.
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So any act of violence carried out is terrorism?
If a radical Muslim with no concrete ties to any extremist group commits atrocities, would you call that terrorism?
Saying that it was "ordinary" Muslims who were attacked is a bit narrow sighted.
Let me say first, a terror attack is a terror attack, and the sector of the religion that was attacked does not change what the act was. The particular mosque that was attacked has reportedly been the centre of British Investigations, with numerous Arrests for extremism.
It was a targeted attack - that is the definition of terrorism, and I do not dispute that
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Two or more convictions related to extremism/terrorism out of the same Mosque it should have been shut down and the property forfeited to the State. Same should apply to any "religious" org, Catholic Church schools, homes, seminary etc., two or more convictions for paedophilia shut it down as a criminal organisation and seize their assets.
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Which of the victims were abnormal Muslims?
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Bit unfair. He's not defending what happened.
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You don't need a 'group' for it to be terrorism. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist and he didn't belong to any group.
Terrorism is defined as an act of violence, carried out for a political end. This crime was either that, or a hate crime.
I find it interesting that the perpetrator was taken away for a mental health check. How many Islamic terrorists that they actually capture are taken away for a mental health check do you think?
Lone wolf. Mentally ill. Et cetera et cetera
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Name one extremist that was run down?
From all reports not only were they not extremists that were run down, one of them actually tried to help the dude that did it afterwards. By stopping the understandably angry mob from beating him to death until the police arrived.
And again, can we please stop blaming the Muslim victims that were killed and permanently injured for this crime?
They were the victims for f*cks sake.
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grievances are framed to create an emotional response and a belief that oppression of Muslims is continuing to take place, as part of a long historical narrative of grievance. Key radical clerics have framed this grievance as an oppression of Muslims and a bid to prevent them from achieving their God-given destiny.
But grievance in isolation is insufficient to create radicalisation to commit acts of terrorism. Essentially, radicalisation is developed by embedding grievance within an ideological and propaganda framework. This framework calls for action in the form of jihad and ultimately martyrdom. Such actions are presented not merely as an option but as a divine obligation.
Building on the emotional connection created through grievance, a cognitive framework based on ideology and propaganda is developed that can direct action and legitimise violence.
But grievance in isolation is insufficient to create radicalisation to commit acts of terrorism. Essentially, radicalisation is developed by embedding grievance within an ideological and propaganda framework. This framework calls for action in the form of jihad and ultimately martyrdom. Such actions are presented not merely as an option but as a divine obligation.
Building on the emotional connection created through grievance, a cognitive framework based on ideology and propaganda is developed that can direct action and legitimise violence.
https://theconversation.com/how-are-western-youth-conditioned-to-commit-terrorist-acts-48664
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