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First round pick for Bock?
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Not at all impressed. They first go to great lengths to let the members know they want them to know they aren't going to take it lying down. Instead they just bent over.
What's worse is that they say were offered a hearing to resolve the dispute... and instead of taking it they knocked it back. That's either incompetence or just plain laziness.
So we've now lost one of our best players for near on nothing... and worse still we've shown ourselves to be complete pushovers deserving of nothing more.
What's worse is that they say were offered a hearing to resolve the dispute... and instead of taking it they knocked it back. That's either incompetence or just plain laziness.
So we've now lost one of our best players for near on nothing... and worse still we've shown ourselves to be complete pushovers deserving of nothing more.
Shenders
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Why were we not prepared to go to the tribunal? I hope we had a pretty good reason. I wonder what the afl said in their letter that made us not want to take it any further?
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Poor effort Adelaide!
Pissweak Adelaide!
If there is a good reason not to take it to the tribunal then bloody well let us know what it is. If not, then stand up for ourselves and show some bloody leadership and initiative.
Very disappointed in the club.
If there is a good reason not to take it to the tribunal then bloody well let us know what it is. If not, then stand up for ourselves and show some bloody leadership and initiative.
Very disappointed in the club.
jenny61_99
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I think we lost our chance at winning the case when Brisbane were offered the same level for Rischitelli who won their best and fairest THIS year.
That is what I reckon too. There was no point in wasting money appealing unless Brisbane thought they had a case too, which would have strengthened our position.
I emailed Phil Harper and asked about it. He said that they were informed that if they went to a tribunal, the two people who would decide the outcome of the tribunal were two people on the original committee for determining the compensation outcome. I asked him if perhaps those two would be more understanding but Phil says he spoke to one of them who argued very strongly that Bock was definitely a band 3 by "their system".
Harper seems pretty annoyed but says there's no point fighting an "unwinnable battle". He did point out that we've stood up for ourselves more so far than any other club, for what that's worth.
Still bitterly disappointed about this. I'm also very annoyed that the tribunal for complaints is made up of the people involved in making the original decision. Surely that's a conflict of interest?
Harper indicated he felt Brisbane had cause to be upset with their compensation as well.
Harper seems pretty annoyed but says there's no point fighting an "unwinnable battle". He did point out that we've stood up for ourselves more so far than any other club, for what that's worth.
Still bitterly disappointed about this. I'm also very annoyed that the tribunal for complaints is made up of the people involved in making the original decision. Surely that's a conflict of interest?
Harper indicated he felt Brisbane had cause to be upset with their compensation as well.
jenny61_99
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So it's not for lack of heart, spine or balls.... it's the fact that the AFL have it stacked against us from the get go.
Us any everyone else... but that doesn't prevent us from sticking up for ourself, it just prevents us from actually achieving anything besides reputation from it.
if Campbell Brown (27y/o) attracts a higher compensation band than Bock, i'd be pissed.
What a joke of a system. The club should be making that as public as they can. **** the AFL. I could take a wild guess as to who these "two people" are.
Edit: Or we could be doing our best to make it public? Did Harper ask you to keep it quiet at all?
Can't agree with that.
What Harper has said sounds reasonable - but we should challenge it anyway.
jenny61_99
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Why challenge when you know you don't have a snowball in hells chance? That's resources (and perhaps $$$) that can be concentrated elsewhere. I'm glad Harper responded to Stabbie... it's almost a license to get that out in the public arena so that everyone DOES know what went down.
He didn't say either way whether I should keep it quiet, and I didn't ask
But I presume it's "public knowledge" to anyone who asks.I agree that it would be good to make it known to the public, but other than posting it on Bigfooty I'm not sure where to start.
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Who gives a crap about that? He is a vanilla midfielder, winning a token b&f for a club having a disastrous season. Meaningless. Has nowhere NEAR the value of a key position all Australian.
I think the fact that you're an apologist for the Adelaide establishment is fine most of the time. But you can't just mindlessly agree with everything, when this is a ridiculously pathetic act of giving up, and not even putting up a fight. Just a terrible example to offer as a club.
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Not even putting up a fight is the DEFINITION of lack of heart, spine and balls.
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What a kangaroo court of a system!!
That could only have been structured by Dimwit and his "post-it-note" B grade lawyer off-sider.
Yes, you have the right of appeal - to the people who made the original decision!!
That is not natural justice.
Imagine if our courts were run the same way. You appeal against the decision and your appeal is heard by the same judge that made the decision you are appealing against.
Welcome to Vladimir Dimwitrikov's new version of Soviet Russia!!
The AFL is a fkg joke!!
jenny61_99
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I'm a realist. Why even attempt to fight the Dimwit and his crones? It's clear that the "system" put into place is to punish the idiot clubs not clever enough to sign their stars up before the end of the year. Have a go at Adelaide for that for god's sake, not for picking their battles. You pick the ones you have a hope of winning, not fight for the sake of it.
Got to laugh though... so many in here were saying Bock should be the one to go... getting older, body not fit blah blah blah. Wonder how many of them are now complaining about getting a crap deal in return?
What pisses me off is we are so nice about it. If its the same people on the appeals board who made the decision why dont we out that publicly? Eddie or Kennett would be making a huge song and dance about it and embarrass the AFL. We just say we wont appeal but dont give the reasons behind it. Soft, when will the club realise nice guys come last.
1 Didn't we sign up to the draft concessions with all the other clubs? Did we have a rep on that committee? Presumably we assumed that it would be some other club that got screwed, as we would have all our players signed up, wouldn't we?
2 The rules are DESIGNED to screw the existing clubs. If the GC and GWS had to give market value for the uncontracted players, they would lose some of their drafting advantage. God forbid that that should happen.
2 The rules are DESIGNED to screw the existing clubs. If the GC and GWS had to give market value for the uncontracted players, they would lose some of their drafting advantage. God forbid that that should happen.
I'm a realist. Why even attempt to fight the Dimwit and his crones? It's clear that the "system" put into place is to punish the idiot clubs not clever enough to sign their stars up before the end of the year. Have a go at Adelaide for that for god's sake, not for picking their battles. You pick the ones you have a hope of winning, not fight for the sake of it.
Got to laugh though... so many in here were saying Bock should be the one to go... getting older, body not fit blah blah blah. Wonder how many of them are now complaining about getting a crap deal in return?
Not sure what you are saying Jenny!
Should we give up because it is too hard or should we shut up because we should"ve been happy to lose Bock at any price?
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You're forgetting that the compensation doesn't come from the Gold Coast. They couldn't possibly care less whether Bock is judged as a 3rd round pick or 8 1st round picks, they aren't the ones giving up "market value".
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