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[TheGreatBarryB]

Re: NFL Playoff Betting Odds

You forgot 5th rule of gambling MB: you can guarantee that for every successful bet people mention there are at least 5 unsuccessful bets they never mention.

 

[redragger]

Re: NFL Playoff Betting Odds

You wish mate... I got the slip right in my top drawer in my desk..

Still got that slip Sniper?

 

[balmainforever]

Early odds:

WEEK 1
Thursday, September 4, 2008
7:00 PM Washington Redskins @ New York Giants (-4.5)

Sunday, September 7, 2008
1:00 PM Detroit Lions (-1.5) @ Atlanta Falcons
1:00 PM Cincinnati Bengals @ Baltimore Ravens (-1.0)
1:00 PM Seattle Seahawks @ Buffalo Bills (no line)
1:00 PM New York Jets (-2.5) @ Miami Dolphins
1:00 PM Kansas City Chiefs @ New England Patriots (-14.5)
1:00 PM Tampa Bay Buccaneers @ New Orleans Saints (-3.0)
1:00 PM St. Louis Rams @ Philadelphia Eagles (-7.0)
1:00 PM Houston Texans @ Pittsburgh Steelers (-7.0)
1:00 PM Jacksonville Jaguars (-3.0) @ Tennessee Titans
4:15 PM Dallas Cowboys (-3.0) @ Cleveland Browns
4:15 PM Carolina Panthers @ San Diego Chargers (-9.5)
4:15 PM Arizona Cardinals (-2.5) @ San Francisco 49ers
8:15 PM Chicago Bears @ Indianapolis Colts (-10.0)

Monday, September 8, 2008
7:00 PM Minnesota Vikings @ Green Bay Packers (-3.5)
10:15 PM Denver Broncos (-1.5) @ Oakland Raiders

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008-09 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP
New England Patriots 3/2
Indianapolis Colts 3/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 5/1
San Diego Chargers 5/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 9/1
Cleveland Browns 14/1
Tennessee Titans 15/1
Cincinnati Bengals 18/1
Denver Broncos 18/1
Houston Texans 30/1
Buffalo Bills 30/1
New York Jets 40/1
Kansas City Chiefs 50/1
Baltimore Ravens 60/1
Oakland Raiders 60/1
Miami Dolphins 75/1

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008-09 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP
Dallas Cowboys 2/1
New York Giants 4/1
Green Bay Packers 5/1
Seattle Seahawks 6/1
New Orleans Saints 8/1
Chicago Bears 8/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 12/1
Washington Redskins 14/1
Minnesota Vikings 14/1
Arizona Cardinals 18/1
Philadelphia Eagles 18/1
Carolina Panthers 25/1
Detroit Lions 25/1
St. Louis Rams 30/1
San Francisco 49ers 45/1
Atlanta Falcons 75/1

ODDS TO WIN SUPER BOWL XLIII (43)
New England Patriots 5/2
Dallas Cowboys 9/2
Indianapolis Colts 6/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 10/1
New York Giants 10/1
San Diego Chargers 10/1
Green Bay Packers 12/1
Seattle Seahawks 15/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 18/1
Chicago Bears 18/1
New Orleans Saints 20/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 28/1
Tennessee Titans 30/1
Washington Redskins 30/1
Minnesota Vikings 30/1
Cleveland Browns 30/1
Cincinnati Bengals 38/1
Denver Broncos 38/1
Arizona Cardinals 45/1
Philadelphia Eagles 45/1
Buffalo Bills 60/1 60/1
Carolina Panthers 60/1
Detroit Lions 60/1
Houston Texans 60/1
New York Jets 75/1
St. Louis Rams 75/1
Kansas City Chiefs 100/1
Baltimore Ravens 125/1
Oakland Raiders 125/1
San Francisco 49ers 125/1
Atlanta Falcons 150/1
Miami Dolphins 150/1

 

[balmainforever]

Re: Early odds:

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 AFC EAST
New England Patriots 1/8
Buffalo Bills 6/1
New York Jets 8/1
Miami Dolphins 50/1

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 AFC NORTH
Pittsburgh Steelers 5/6
Cleveland Browns 3/2
Cincinnati Bengals 9/2
Baltimore Ravens 20/1

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 AFC SOUTH
Indianapolis Colts 5/8
Jacksonville Jaguars 7/5
Tennessee Titans 7/1
Houston Texans 25/1

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 AFC WEST
San Diego Chargers 1/6
Denver Broncos 9/2
Oakland Raiders 12/1
Kansas City Chiefs 20/1

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 NFC EAST
Dallas Cowboys 4/7
New York Giants 5/2
Philadelphia Eagles 5/1
Washington Redskins 8/1

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 NFC NORTH
Green Bay Packers 8/5
Minnesota Vikings 2/1
Chicago Bears 2/1
Detroit Lions 11/2

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 NFC SOUTH
New Orleans Saints 6/5
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 7/5
Carolina Panthers 3/1
Atlanta Falcons 25/1

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 NFC WEST
Seattle Seahawks EVEN
Arizona Cardinals 7/4
St. Louis Rams 7/2
San Francisco 49ers 12/1

 

[Dagless]

Re: Early odds:

4/1 and 10/1 is fair respect considering everything together

Reminds me, better get my hot tips and predictions in

 

[Wizard]

Re: Early odds:

ODDS TO WIN THE 2008 NFC SOUTH
Seattle Seahawks EVEN
Arizona Cardinals 7/4
St. Louis Rams 7/2
San Francisco 49ers 12/1

Thats some pretty tasty work there for the Cardinals.

 

[JeffDunne]

Re: Early odds:

The Saints are back in the NFC West? I'll take that.

I was about to launch into one of my "I can't believe people are still over-rating the Panthers" rants . . . and then I saw their odds.

Finally, my work is done.

Love those Falcons odds too. Last 5 years, every NFC South champ has been bottom the year before. It's the last-to-first division and the Falcons are still 25/1.

Gotta love those Dirty Birds.

 

[Dagless]

Re: Early odds:

Too bad they ain't in the South ey champ

I'll forgive you for the error though

Though the South is interesting to say the least...

 

[redragger]

Re: Early odds:

The Raiders at 12/1 to win the AFC West looks tempting. On the other hand, Chicago ranked as the 10th favourite for the Super Bowl at 18/1! You've got to be kidding me, they'll come last in their division...

 

[exe ex machina]

Re: Early odds:

Redskins, Saints, and Jaguars to win the SB at 30/1, 20/1, and 10/1 are great odds for teams with a real shot at winning it.

I said Jacksonville -v- Redskins Superbowl for last year, but it may happen this year.

 

[Woodson]

Re: Early odds:

The Raiders at 12/1 to win the AFC West looks tempting. On the other hand, Chicago ranked as the 10th favourite for the Super Bowl at 18/1! You've got to be kidding me, they'll come last in their division...

nah, Lock the Lame Lions in for Stone Cold motherless last.. high hopes for pick #1 (and that Wells kid from Ohio )

I'm staggered how SF are 12/1 ?? Martz is takin' over there and the SF D is no dog shampoo set up either. I'm busting to see Seattle trip over. .. time to shake a tail-feather in the dusty division out West.

Yup, my first THICK BLACK TEXTA returns and I'm blacklisting the

Detroit Lions 3-13 season at best

 

[exe ex machina]

Re: Early odds:

Is the TEXTA out already?? Lions an easy one hey? Try some tougher ones.

 

[Woodson]

Re: Early odds:

Is the TEXTA out already?? Lions an easy one hey? Try some tougher ones.

In the toughest division...

2. Tennessee Titans

Bare in mind that ONE of the teams I scrubbed last season HOSTED the Conf Champship.. so it's a good omen really. Coach Fisher will be reeled out of there.. me thinks.

 

[exe ex machina]

Re: Early odds:

Tennessee TEXTA'd hey? Interesting. That's a pretty daring call in a tough and always getting closer AFC South.

How about NFC East? AFC North? NFC South?

 

[JeffDunne]

Re: Early odds:

I agree with Woodson so far.

Titans will come last in their Division.

 

[Woodson]

Re: Early odds:

Tennessee TEXTA'd hey? Interesting. That's a pretty daring call in a tough and always getting closer AFC South.

How about NFC East? AFC North? NFC South?

The NFC East is a real toughy. I read that 3 of the last place teams come thru the following campaigns and either make the play-offs or have a winning record so I'll need time to mull over the NFC East.

The AFC North: Cincinnati
The NFC South: Atlanta (no brainer??? of course > JD nods head)
The AFC East: Miami (another no brainer I guess??)
The AFC West: Kansas City (Still can't get over Herm's YPTW comments)

 

[exe ex machina]

Re: Early odds:

NFC EAST ...

i say the Eagles, and a ticket for reid out

 

[Woodson]

Re: Early odds:

NFC EAST ...

i say the Eagles, and a ticket for reid out

Are you questioning the Eagles D? Or don't think they can put a winning score on the board often enough??

It's a real lottery that division. The G-men could well have Supabah hangover
as it's a common pattern. The NFC West is tricky. Very tricky.

Last season I put the KOD on Seattle but they wiggled themselves a home play-off. Am not convinced they can improve anymore than 11 wins and even though their D remains solid, losing DJ Hackett will sting them and perhaps unsettle their poise. Something has to give with Whisenhunt's Cards who are flying under the radar and the Niners have the man with the explosive plays..

Last season I predicted the Rams to hit the mark but they ran into trouble instead losing key players to long term injuries. It's more about how many shoot-outs can the Rams cope with before they fall in a heap? Last season they started 0-8 with Jackson & Bulger each missing 4 in the first 8 along with 2 OL men. Brutal for any team to lose club stars early.

I'm not convinced their D can carry them in tight games where defending a last minute lead so I'd say the Rams are going to stay rooted to 4th spot.

 

[Dagless]

Re: Early odds:

Are you questioning the Eagles D? Or don't think they can put a winning score on the board often enough??

It's a real lottery that division. The G-men could well have Supabah hangover
as it's a common pattern. The NFC West is tricky. Very tricky.

Last season I put the KOD on Seattle but they wiggled themselves a home play-off. Am not convinced they can improve anymore than 11 wins and even though their D remains solid, losing DJ Hackett will sting them and perhaps unsettle their poise. Something has to give with Whisenhunt's Cards who are flying under the radar and the Niners have the man with the explosive plays..

Last season I predicted the Rams to hit the mark but they ran into trouble instead losing key players to long term injuries. It's more about how many shoot-outs can the Rams cope with before they fall in a heap? Last season they started 0-8 with Jackson & Bulger each missing 4 in the first 8 along with 2 OL men. Brutal for any team to lose club stars early.

I'm not convinced their D can carry them in tight games where defending a last minute lead so I'd say the Rams are going to stay rooted to 4th spot.

Woodson... The only recent SB winner to have a hangover was your Steelers... And then the Seahawks were nothing great in the same year. There is no common poor play pattern for SB winners... Most are still up there... The losers have hangovers (Bears, Philly, Carolina, Giants, Seattle, Oakland)

Sorry just wanted you to get your facts right

Since their SB, Seattle has had 2 wins against teams with .500 or more %. Out of all those wins, only TWO were against half decent teams... Bloody lucky the buggers only have to put up with the 9ers, Rams and Cards... NOT THIS YEAR

 

[Woodson]

Re: Early odds:

recap: BIG BLACK THICK TEXTA write off teams


The AFC South: Tennessee
The AFC East: Miami
The AFC North: Cincinnati
The AFC West: Kansas City

The NFC North: Detroit
The NFC South: Atlanta
The NFC West: St Louis
The NFC East: ??????? watch this space

 

[Woodson]

Re: Early odds:

Woodson... The only recent SB winner to have a hangover was your Steelers... And then the Seahawks were nothing great in the same year. There is no common poor play pattern for SB winners... Most are still up there... The losers have hangovers (Bears, Philly, Carolina, Giants, Seattle, Oakland)

Sorry just wanted you to get your facts right

Since their SB, Seattle has had 2 wins against teams with .500 or more %. Out of all those wins, only TWO were against half decent teams... Bloody lucky the buggers only have to put up with the 9ers, Rams and Cards... NOT THIS YEAR

well, I stand corrected then. So The G-men are a LOCK for play-offs?? The more you push this, the more I'll use the BIG BLACK TEXTA on your G-men to 'hopefully' prove my point.

I'll come up with my NFC East cellar dweller prediction before the weekend.
Hope it's your G-men coz I predicted the Pack last season and we know who hosted the C'chmpship.

 

[Dagless]

Re: Early odds:

Most had the texta through our names last year (re: 07 Predictions Thread "Where do you see the Giants improvement coming from? Tiki holding them back? " )

Just corrected the GRIEVOUS error

 

[Southerntakeover]

Re: Early odds:

Woodson... The only recent SB winner to have a hangover was your Steelers... And then the Seahawks were nothing great in the same year. There is no common poor play pattern for SB winners... Most are still up there... The losers have hangovers (Bears, Philly, Carolina, Giants, Seattle, Oakland)

Sorry just wanted you to get your facts right

Since their SB, Seattle has had 2 wins against teams with .500 or more %. Out of all those wins, only TWO were against half decent teams... Bloody lucky the buggers only have to put up with the 9ers, Rams and Cards... NOT THIS YEAR

Do you really think the Eagles can be written off at this point?

Come on, we've got a damn awesome D at the moment, and our offense will improve big time by getting some key starters back on the field and fit, along with the addition of Desean Jackson and Lorenzo Booker. We're gonna cause some headaches this season, and not just for me this time.

 

[exe ex machina]

Re: Early odds:

Ok, I have a GG special for you Woodson. Ready for it? Atlanta to vie for a WC spot. I believe they'll suprise many. I have a feeling.

 

[Dagless]

Re: Early odds:

Do you really think the Eagles can be written off at this point?

Come on, we've got a damn awesome D at the moment, and our offense will improve big time by getting some key starters back on the field and fit, along with the addition of Desean Jackson and Lorenzo Booker. We're gonna cause some headaches this season, and not just for me this time.

I didn't write em off... Personally I reckon you are 3rd in the East and will make the playoffs (3 from the East again)
Westbrrok healthy, McNabb, who is still a good QB no matter what people think. Good D (As I pointed to by drafting them ) which only got stronger with Samuels.

And you aare just talking shit for the sake of talking shit gg Atlanta?