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I've watched the boys lose more GF's than they've won in the last 50 years.

Each one hurts, it guts you...... But with time you realise that the sun still comes up the next day, your job is just the same, and the dog still loves you.

Yes, it's a passionate pastime, you invest emotionally, but always remember, it's just a game. It doesn't cure cancer, feed the homeless, or stop wars.

Life goes on.

I get it, but if that's the case why does the winning team always carry on like the found the cure for cancer, homes for the homeless and a way to bring an end to all wars? The sun comes up the day after you bury your dad too. Your dog still licks you when tragedy strikes. Life goes on when thousands of people get wiped out in a natural disaster. I know you are being magnanimous and a good sport, but I have always felt this kind of rhetoric hollow. Saying footy matters and winning premierships matters even more isn't a sign of shallowness or poor prioritizing. I remember after the 2002 grand final loss, a photo of Licuria and Malthouse weeping in each others arms was published. It drew a fair amount of criticism. One woman wrote : how can these grown men cry over a stupid game of football, when there are wars going on and starving babies dying? I thought it was a ridiculous comment.

It isn't a contest. Clearly, both Malthouse and Licuria have suffered great loss in their lives as have most adults of their age. Does the fact Malthouse wept over a game of football mean he places that defeat alongside the death of his parents or health of his kids? You cry about the wasted effort and investment being for nought. You cry because another opportunity may not come your way. You cry because you feel you have let down your supporters/family/friends. Fans cry for similar reasons. You ride every bump and goal in rain, hail and sleet week in and week out. You are heavily invested in the journey and its outcome. It's often a family tradition too. I am the fourth generation of Collingwood supporters in our family and now have a grown son who is as passionate as I am and grand kids who proudly wear the colours. All of this makes footy more than a game. It connects and binds us to our tribe. It doesn't make sense. It isn't logical-but the raw passion and sense of connection is very real.

Have you never leapt into the arms of strangers who just happen to be wearing the same colours you love when you win a thrilling finals clash? I have kissed rough looking men on the cheek and hugged total strangers many times after big wins and they have reciprocated. It's insane and it's beautiful. That kind of euphoria is as big a high as anything I have ever experienced.

I wept when my mum and dad died. I cry when I watch sad movies. I cry when I say goodbye to my class at the end of each school year. I have cried when Collingwood lose GF's. There is no contest. it isn't an either/or. I recall Barrassi saying one of the greatest joys in his football career was seeing the old North fans coming up to him and the players with tears in their eyes and saying, "Now I can die happy!"

Family and friends are the most precious thing in our lives. After that, it is simply a matter of what direction your passion lies. Football matters. It wouldn't be a multi million dollar industry if it didn't. Music matters. Art matters. These are the things which make life worth living.

Sometimes I think comments like yours are an attempt to soothe wounds or shy away from the reality. Either that, or you are a supporter who sees the game as a way to pass an afternoon while you chat with friends. A bit of fun, a form of entertainment. Fair enough. For me and many others we have no control over how we feel when we lose a grand final.

I know I have rambled but I often hear those words spoken by people who don't seem to get the depth of feeling a person can have for their club and it's success and failures. Check out the Richmond board and see how balanced and philosophical they are the morning after!

You Geelong fans are the most gracious, accepting and fair minded I have come across on the Big Footy forums. Sorry for your loss. I was barracking hard for the Cats.
 
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Didn't want to tempt the gods. Most nervous I've been in a first half since 2007 I reckon.

Lots of positives and negatives. Making it a definite positive.

Yeah, I went into the game expecting a narrow loss and was pleasantly surprised by our start / rueing our missed chances - I almost dared to dream until the final 5 - 10 minutes of the second quarter........

Then I knew it was over and had time to reflect / reconcile.
 
If Jeff Kennett came out and said: the cats don’t have mental fortitude To win a GF. It would be hard to disagree.
We've played in one grand final in 9 years. Of the last 3 grand finals we've won 2.
Trollin' trollin' trollin'
keep them dawgies trollin' troller
through rain and wind and weather
hell bent for leather
wishin' my troller was by my side
all the things I'm missin'
good vittles, love and kissin'
are waiting at the end of my ride
move 'em on head 'em up
head 'em up, move 'em on, trollin'
cut 'em out, ride 'em in
ride 'em in, cut 'em out, trollin'
 

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What a joke! Our 'team of plodders' are mostly made up of triple premiership players who stand up when it matters most. Hardly a team of plodders. What does that make your team losing to us? Its baffling how some are still so offended by our success that they can't accept we are a good team. Your tears of salt are delicious
Good response to a stupid ignorant post. Some people are probably crying in their drink as their fingers bang away on a keyboard, I know I was.
 
I get it, but if that's the case why does the winning team always carry on like the found the cure for cancer, homes for the homeless and a way to bring an end to all wars? The sun comes up the day after you bury your dad too. Your dog still licks you when tragedy strikes. Life goes on when thousands of people get wiped out in a natural disaster. I know you are being magnanimous and a good sport, but I have always felt this kind of rhetoric hollow. Saying footy matters and winning premierships matters even more isn't a sign of shallowness or poor prioritizing. I remember after the 2002 grand final loss, a photo of Licuria and Malthouse weeping in each others arms was published. It drew a fair amount of criticism. One woman wrote : how can these grown men cry over a stupid game of football, when there are wars going on and starving babies dying? I thought it was a ridiculous comment.

It isn't a contest. Clearly, both Malthouse and Licuria have suffered great loss in their lives as have most adults of their age. Does the fact Malthouse wept over a game of football mean he places that defeat alongside the death of his parents or health of his kids? You cry about the wasted effort and investment being for nought. You cry because another opportunity may not come your way. You cry because you feel you have let won your supporters/family/friends. Fans cry for similar reasons. You ride every bump and goal in rain, hail and sleet week in and week out. You are heavily invested in the journey and its outcome. It's often a family tradition too. I am the fourth generation of Collingwood supporters in our family and now have a grown son who is as passionate as I am and grand kids who proudly wear the colours. All of this makes footy more than a game. It connects and binds us to our tribe. It doesn't make sense. It isn't logical-but the raw passion and sense of connection is very real.

Have you never leapt into the arms of strangers who just happen to be wearing the same colours you love when you win a thrilling finals clash? I have kissed rough looking men on the cheek and hugged total strangers many times after big wins and they have reciprocated. It's insane and it's beautiful. That kind of euphoria is as big a high as anything I have ever experienced.

I wept when my mum and dad died. I cry when I watch sad movies. I cry when I say goodbye to my class at the end of each school year. I have cried when Collingwood lose GF's. There is no contest. it isn't an either/or. I recall Barrassi saying one of the greatest joys in his football career was seeing the old North fans coming up to him and the players with tears in their eyes and saying, "Now I can die happy!"

Family and friends are the most precious thing in our lives. After that, it is simply a matter of what direction your passion lies. Football matters. It wouldn't be a multi million dollar industry if it didn't. Music matters. Art matters. These are the things which make life worth living.

Sometimes I think comments like yours are an attempt to soothe wounds or shy away from the reality. Either that, or you are a supporter who sees the game as a way to pass an afternoon while you chat with friends. A bit of fun, a form of entertainment. Fair enough. For me and many others we have no control over how we feel when we lose a grand final.

I know I have rambled but I often hear those words spoken by people who don't seem to get the depth of feeling a person can have for their club and it's success and failures. Check out the Richmond board and see balanced and philosophical they are the morning after!

You Geelong fans are the most gracious, accepting and fair minded I have come across on the Big Footy forums. Sorry for your loss. I was barracking hard for the Cats.

That's an outstanding post. Thanks for sharing.
 
I get it, but if that's the case why does the winning team always carry on like the found the cure for cancer, homes for the homeless and a way to bring an end to all wars? The sun comes up the day after you bury your dad too. Your dog still licks you when tragedy strikes. Life goes on when thousands of people get wiped out in a natural disaster. I know you are being magnanimous and a good sport, but I have always felt this kind of rhetoric hollow. Saying footy matters and winning premierships matters even more isn't a sign of shallowness or poor prioritizing. I remember after the 2002 grand final loss, a photo of Licuria and Malthouse weeping in each others arms was published. It drew a fair amount of criticism. One woman wrote : how can these grown men cry over a stupid game of football, when there are wars going on and starving babies dying? I thought it was a ridiculous comment.

It isn't a contest. Clearly, both Malthouse and Licuria have suffered great loss in their lives as have most adults of their age. Does the fact Malthouse wept over a game of football mean he places that defeat alongside the death of his parents or health of his kids? You cry about the wasted effort and investment being for nought. You cry because another opportunity may not come your way. You cry because you feel you have let won your supporters/family/friends. Fans cry for similar reasons. You ride every bump and goal in rain, hail and sleet week in and week out. You are heavily invested in the journey and its outcome. It's often a family tradition too. I am the fourth generation of Collingwood supporters in our family and now have a grown son who is as passionate as I am and grand kids who proudly wear the colours. All of this makes footy more than a game. It connects and binds us to our tribe. It doesn't make sense. It isn't logical-but the raw passion and sense of connection is very real.

Have you never leapt into the arms of strangers who just happen to be wearing the same colours you love when you win a thrilling finals clash? I have kissed rough looking men on the cheek and hugged total strangers many times after big wins and they have reciprocated. It's insane and it's beautiful. That kind of euphoria is as big a high as anything I have ever experienced.

I wept when my mum and dad died. I cry when I watch sad movies. I cry when I say goodbye to my class at the end of each school year. I have cried when Collingwood lose GF's. There is no contest. it isn't an either/or. I recall Barrassi saying one of the greatest joys in his football career was seeing the old North fans coming up to him and the players with tears in their eyes and saying, "Now I can die happy!"

Family and friends are the most precious thing in our lives. After that, it is simply a matter of what direction your passion lies. Football matters. It wouldn't be a multi million dollar industry if it didn't. Music matters. Art matters. These are the things which make life worth living.

Sometimes I think comments like yours are an attempt to soothe wounds or shy away from the reality. Either that, or you are a supporter who sees the game as a way to pass an afternoon while you chat with friends. A bit of fun, a form of entertainment. Fair enough. For me and many others we have no control over how we feel when we lose a grand final.

I know I have rambled but I often hear those words spoken by people who don't seem to get the depth of feeling a person can have for their club and it's success and failures. Check out the Richmond board and see balanced and philosophical they are the morning after!

You Geelong fans are the most gracious, accepting and fair minded I have come across on the Big Footy forums. Sorry for your loss. I was barracking hard for the Cats.

My comments were sincere and genuine.

I feel emotions like everyone else, and ride the emotional rollercoaster that sport provides.

But I have also gone through the greatest loss that anyone can suffer, and it has shaped my perspective.

Life is fragile, precious, short. It doesn't give you much time to live, love, laugh, cry, enjoy friendships, make a mark, be a mentor for your kids, and it doesn't guarantee good health.

Perspective.

Sure, we hurt when we lose, and I admitted to that. But at the end of the day the hurt of a GF loss does NOT compare to the depth of feeling when, for example, you're diagnosed with cancer, or god forbid, you lose a child.

That was my point, and I assure you that my sentiment is as sincere as can be, and molded by many, many years following footy and the scars life has inflicted.
 
I get it, but if that's the case why does the winning team always carry on like the found the cure for cancer, homes for the homeless and a way to bring an end to all wars? The sun comes up the day after you bury your dad too. Your dog still licks you when tragedy strikes. Life goes on when thousands of people get wiped out in a natural disaster. I know you are being magnanimous and a good sport, but I have always felt this kind of rhetoric hollow. Saying footy matters and winning premierships matters even more isn't a sign of shallowness or poor prioritizing. I remember after the 2002 grand final loss, a photo of Licuria and Malthouse weeping in each others arms was published. It drew a fair amount of criticism. One woman wrote : how can these grown men cry over a stupid game of football, when there are wars going on and starving babies dying? I thought it was a ridiculous comment.

It isn't a contest. Clearly, both Malthouse and Licuria have suffered great loss in their lives as have most adults of their age. Does the fact Malthouse wept over a game of football mean he places that defeat alongside the death of his parents or health of his kids? You cry about the wasted effort and investment being for nought. You cry because another opportunity may not come your way. You cry because you feel you have let won your supporters/family/friends. Fans cry for similar reasons. You ride every bump and goal in rain, hail and sleet week in and week out. You are heavily invested in the journey and its outcome. It's often a family tradition too. I am the fourth generation of Collingwood supporters in our family and now have a grown son who is as passionate as I am and grand kids who proudly wear the colours. All of this makes footy more than a game. It connects and binds us to our tribe. It doesn't make sense. It isn't logical-but the raw passion and sense of connection is very real.

Have you never leapt into the arms of strangers who just happen to be wearing the same colours you love when you win a thrilling finals clash? I have kissed rough looking men on the cheek and hugged total strangers many times after big wins and they have reciprocated. It's insane and it's beautiful. That kind of euphoria is as big a high as anything I have ever experienced.

I wept when my mum and dad died. I cry when I watch sad movies. I cry when I say goodbye to my class at the end of each school year. I have cried when Collingwood lose GF's. There is no contest. it isn't an either/or. I recall Barrassi saying one of the greatest joys in his football career was seeing the old North fans coming up to him and the players with tears in their eyes and saying, "Now I can die happy!"

Family and friends are the most precious thing in our lives. After that, it is simply a matter of what direction your passion lies. Football matters. It wouldn't be a multi million dollar industry if it didn't. Music matters. Art matters. These are the things which make life worth living.

Sometimes I think comments like yours are an attempt to soothe wounds or shy away from the reality. Either that, or you are a supporter who sees the game as a way to pass an afternoon while you chat with friends. A bit of fun, a form of entertainment. Fair enough. For me and many others we have no control over how we feel when we lose a grand final.

I know I have rambled but I often hear those words spoken by people who don't seem to get the depth of feeling a person can have for their club and it's success and failures. Check out the Richmond board and see balanced and philosophical they are the morning after!

You Geelong fans are the most gracious, accepting and fair minded I have come across on the Big Footy forums. Sorry for your loss. I was barracking hard for the Cats.
I can't speak for others but I simply can't get overly emotional over a result of a game I had no control over anymore. I'm just content with having seen one, anything else is just a bonus. We lost and now I move on.
 
I can't speak for others but I simply can't get overly emotional over a result of a game I had no control over anymore. I'm just content with having seen one, anything else is just a bonus. We lost and now I move on.

It's entertainment. A game.

Sure, winning is euphoric, it generates pride, excitement, joy, and bonds people with a shared passion....... But much of that is temporary, and tomorrow we will all wake up to the grind of our work, fretting about our job security, paying the mortgage, and providing some semblance of security for our kids.
 
I can't speak for others but I simply can't get overly emotional over a result of a game I had no control over anymore. I'm just content with having seen one, anything else is just a bonus. We lost and now I move on.

Yep, 2013 was it for me. Anything after that has been a bonus.
Can't see us winning a flag for a good 20+ years now.
Geelong tend to do their thing in waves and then go into severe drought mode for decades on end.
 
With 1 min to go before half time we conceded 54 points from Turnovers. It will haunt us forever. Stop focusing on Danger this or Chris Scott that. We also had 18 inside 50s in that time. Disgraceful. The entire midfield had less than 20 possessions btw them in the last half

TURNOVERS:
Henry kicks it on the full under zero pressure. Kick comes back. Blitz punches it to corridor - Goal Martin

Selwood and Guthrie inexplicably stuff up a centre clearance free kick we had Turnover - Point Richmond

Kolo horrendous switch kick Interception - Goal Costagna

Bews 15 metre chip from the goal line. intercepted. Goal Lambert.

Blitz 40m clear takes an enternity fumbling the ball. Hospital Handballs it to Henry - Point to Edwards

Stanley has mark in defensive 40. Chips it 30m sideways to a 1 on 2. Turnover Goal Prestia

Parfitt 20m kick turnover to Bolton. Kicks it to Lynch Goal

Henry kicks long down the line. Balta makes unopposed. Kicks back long and Martin picks it up and Goals from 55m.

Stewert back pocket. Kicks long to 4 on 2. Turnover. Short gives to Riewoldt Goal

Dangerfield absolute Shank trying a torp out of Defensive 50 goes 30m Sideways no Geelong player for miles. Baker to Riewoldt Goal.

Stanley dropped mark - Goal Martin.

Say what you want but we never play like that. We will forever rue it. Add that to mistakes we turned over that cost OUR goals in the last qrt alone. Gryan misses 3 open guys taking a pot shot from 60 that goes straight to them. Ablett under no pressure kicking it to Rohan who is on the run but drops a chest mark. Danger dropping one he gets two hands on. Hawkins dropping a chest mark. Touhy on 50 under no pressure turning it over to Cotchin looking for Ablett.
 
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With 1 min to go before half time we conceded 54 points from Turnovers. It will haunt us forever. Stop focusing on Danger this or Chris Scott that. We also had 18 inside 50s in that time. Disgraceful. The entire midfield had less than 20 possessions btw them in the last half

TURNOVERS:
Henry kicks it on the full under zero pressure. Kick comes back. Blitz punches it to corridor - Goal Martin

Selwood and Guthrie inexplicably stuff up a centre clearance free kick we had Turnover - Point Richmond

Kolo Horrendous switch kick Interception - Goal Costagna

Bews 15 metre chip From the goal line. intercepted. Goal Lambert.

Blitz 40m clear takes an enternity fumbling the ball. Hospital Handballs it to Henry - Point to Edwards

Stanley has mark in defensive 40. Chips it 30m sideways to a 1 on 2. Turnover Goal Prestia

Parfitt 20 kick turnover to Bolton. Kicks it to Lynch Goal

Henry kicks long down the line. Balta makes unopposed. Kicks back long and Martin picks it up and Goals from 55.

Stewert back pocket. Kicks long to 4 on 2. Turnover. Short gives to Riewoldt Goal

Dangerfield absolute Shank trying a torp out of Defensive 50 goes 30m Sideways no Geelong player for miles. Baker to Riewoldt Goal.

Stanley dropped mark - Goal Martin.

Say what you want but we never play like that. We will forever rue it. Add that to mistakes we turned over that cost OUR goals in the last qrt alone. Gryan misses 3 open guys taking a pot shot from 60 that goes straight to them. Ablett under no pressure kicking it to Rohan who is on the run but drops a chest mark. Danger dropping one he gets two hands on. Hawkins dropping a chest mark. Touhy on 50 under no pressure turning it over to Cotchin looking for Ablett.
Yep- noted all of these too but it’s done now. Take some things out of that game and then let it go. They were too good and caused us to make some of those mistakes. We have to get better.
 
Yep- noted all of these too but it’s done now. Take some things out of that game and then let it go. They were too good and caused us to make some of those mistakes. We have to get better.
Just laughable to say clearances were the issue or we got out coached. Howling clangers and just stupid panicking football isn’t Chris Scott.
 

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He is without doubt the most brutal opportunist I have seen in GF's. Can you name an effective hard tag we have? I thought Parfitt or Guthrie or Henry, but he showed us after half time what he does to teams at will.

Actually the stat for Martin's accuracy is simply last year and this year. Seven finals, he's kicked 19.2

That sort of kicking on the biggest stage is decisive. Hawkins has kicked 39.33 in all his finals, Dusty has 26.11 in all of his. But he just kicks the big goals. LIke Shane Warne, he is the 'partnership breaker' by often getting one at a time the Tigers may really need one. Absolute cream on the cake and the cherry on top when he does that. And 19.2 in his last 7 finals pretty much spells Premierships.
 
Just laughable to say clearances were the issue or we got out coached. Howling clangers and just stupid panicking football isn’t Chris Scott.
We did some dopey stuff when we just needed to get it moving quickly. Needed big kicks just to get it out of their backline. Instead we did too many silly little kicks and overused handballs. Have to be smarter than that.
Champions take their chances- Richmond did, we didn’t.
 
I can't speak for others but I simply can't get overly emotional over a result of a game I had no control over anymore. I'm just content with having seen one, anything else is just a bonus. We lost and now I move on.
Completely agree with you. When you let footy ruin your day, you’ve lost sight of what’s great about footy.
 
never seen a player with high marking, lengthy kicks on both sides of body, ability to play back, forward and middle, ability to break open packs, create fear in opponents, composed under pressure, kick goals from anywhere, kick over 1000 goals after only 3 full seasons at full forward. gary ablett senior was the only footballer in the past 60 years to have this capacity
he was the GOAT undoubtedly in my mind
I was referring to finals, and mainly GF's
 
Actually the stat for Martin's accuracy is simply last year and this year. Seven finals, he's kicked 19.2

That sort of kicking on the biggest stage is decisive. Hawkins has kicked 39.33 in all his finals, Dusty has 26.11 in all of his. But he just kicks the big goals. LIke Shane Warne, he is the 'partnership breaker' by often getting one at a time the Tigers may really need one. Absolute cream on the cake and the cherry on top when he does that. And 19.2 in his last 7 finals pretty much spells Premierships.

Particularly as he's not perceived as a big goalkicker either. But in the last two finals series he's kicked 6 once and 4 twice (both in Grand finals). Knows when to do it.
 

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That’s really not correct on Gaz Snr. 91 was a write-off after the comeback.

92 he kicked 16 goals in the 4 games including 3 in the GF. He wasn’t poor or indifferent. Not ‘great’, sure, but let’s say fairly good, and really good in the QF kicking 5.

94 he kicked 5 in the first quarter against the Dogs in the Billy king of Geelong game. Also kicked 6 in that huge win against Carlton at Waverley. He was great that day, took some huge wrestling grabs. Prelim was not a great day but bobbed up with the winner. GF he was shut out.

95 he came in after injury. Kicked 4 in the PF, and completely shut out in the granny.

So he had some poor games, GFs sadly, but to say all of his finals series post 89 were poor or indifferent is not quite right.
You are underselling 92. ablett wasnt a key foward in 92. He played a similar role to martin as a half foward and mid. He averaged 4 goals a game across 4 games doing that role. Ablett 16 goals in 4 games. Dustin martin 7 goals in 4 games. He was close to the best player that finals series. Kicked some absolutely freakish goals.

his other finals series he was over 31 and was struggling to run and jump and reverted to a wrestler.
 
perhaps the poster was incorporating an algorithm for age capacity based on personality? He's an awesome player, but also a McFlurry.
In comparison to GAJ. Dusty then has several years ahead of him.
 
You are underselling 92. ablett wasnt a key foward in 92. He played a similar role to martin as a half foward and mid. He averaged 4 goals across 4 games doing that role. He was close to the best player that finals series. Kicked some absolutely freakish goals.

his other finals series he was over 31 and was struggling to run and jump and reverted to a wrestler.

Yeah, in hindsight and with today's preparation I'm sure they'd slim him down. He got huge the last couple of years in musculature. Lost a bit of zip.
 
Particularly as he's not perceived as a big goalkicker either. But in the last two finals series he's kicked 6 once and 4 twice (both in Grand finals). Knows when to do it.

Indeed....many a time i've put a multi on with Dusty involved as an anytime goalkicker, and he seems to sometimes just saunter around the ground having a few kicks here and there and often doing all he can to be the goal assist man. That's often in the mundane H & A games. But he just seems to eat pressure and thrive on the biggest stage. He goes to a new level in Finals. He averages essentially a goal a game in H & A, but now has 26 goals in 15 Finals.

Certainly clubs need to find a way to quell him, but in recent years that's been hard to do.
 
Completely agree with you. When you let footy ruin your day, you’ve lost sight of what’s great about footy.
This is absolute nonsense! You can speak for yourself, but you can't tell people that they have lost sight of what's great about footy just because their reaction to footy is different from yours.

There is absolutely nothing wrong or embarrassing or shameful over having your day ruined by football. We invest emotionally and financially in our club and when things don't pan out of course a lot of people are going to feel upset. Some may even feel as though their day is ruined! This is perfectly normal. I would go so far as to say it is human.

I actually have far more respect for people who can admit that their day was ruined by footy than those who are too cool for school to admit that they are in pain when a game doesn't go their way.

I had a great time at the Gabba last night and I am so proud about how our club handled this crazy year, but I'm not about to shut people down for being upset over the outcome and being brave enough to be vulnerable and admit as much.
 
I was referring to finals, and mainly GF's

He was pretty good in finals.
I think what hurts him is most expected a replica of the 89 finals series which is impossible.
So a 16 disposal 4 goal final was considered ordinary by his standards.
He also dealt with terrible treatment off the ball. Guys like Tony Campbell, John Worsfold and Danny Frawley were octopuses. Hung on all day and would have been paid 7 free kicks in today's game.
He also gave it back and often KO'd some of these players in quite appalling circumstances (although Worsfold was as thuggish as they got).

His final two grand finals were terrible. No disputing that.
We were never a chance those years anyway. Kind of like today's team. Making up the numbers.
 
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