Until a year or so later and Ablett does the same thing. Then Dalhouse... then Rohan.
Hmm, rare.
Not that I was particularly disappointed to miss him but didn’t Deledio initially nominate Geelong as well as a preferred destination?
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Until a year or so later and Ablett does the same thing. Then Dalhouse... then Rohan.
Hmm, rare.
They manage the transition well. Don’t forget we lost Scarlett, Stevie J, Bartel, Chapman, Mooney, Ablett, Enright , Mackie etc and still remain competitive. Ablett will leave again along with Taylor, Hawkins, selwood but they’ll replace them.
Interestingly the next group was supposed to be Menzel, Murdoch, thurlow, Guthrie and a few others. 3 are out and Guthrie is a fringe player, so we just bring in ‘need’ players and promote youth. Cats will be thereabouts , but we want to be champions. Not sure they’ll be good enough in next few years.
Ablett and Selwood are the only players still on the list since the run started in 2007.
This year could be the year of the cat too.
My point was that it will be rare for out-and-out star players, like Dangerfield, to be as absolutely adamant about coming to Geelong as Dangerfield was.Until a year or so later and Ablett does the same thing. Then Dalhouse... then Rohan.
Hmm, rare.
Hawkins was on the list in 2007 too. He and Selwood were taken in the same draft.Ablett and Selwood are the only players still on the list since the run started in 2007.
This year could be the year of the cat too.
My point was that it will be rare for out-and-out star players, like Dangerfield, to be as absolutely adamant about coming to Geelong as Dangerfield was.
Ablett was another special circumstance. He would have always been a Geelong player if not for the money the AFL offered him for moving to GC.
Dahlhaus and Rohan are not star players. Also, Rohan did not demand to be traded to Geelong. Sydney told him he was done there, which he apparently wasn't too happy about, and he selected Geelong.
Hawkins was on the list in 2007 too. He and Selwood were taken in the same draft.
It was the old F/S system. You only had to use a third-round pick for nominated father sons.Re. Hawkins - how did Geelong get him with such a low pick? Given he was rated as a possible pick 1 if not for father son.
Real market value what would have Geelong got for a 25yo Ablett?The system is not free market. We are sold a lie on the whole "draft is the miracle cure for everything". Meanwhile, Geelong is busy trading and getting established players for less than a real market rate would dictate.
Luke Dalhaus - approx $500,000 per year. For him to go to Carlton they would need to pay $750,000. Why? Cause Geelong is a contender, Carlton isn't.
Zach Tuohy - left the Blues, Carlton gets dud Smedts and a 1st round draft pick. Whoophee do!
Geelong can prop up their team by picking the best players out of other clubs.
The whole Dangerfield trade was a joke too. Adelaide got Gore- whoever he is?, pick 9 and pick 28...Whoopee do!
Dangerfield is elite. In a real market you would be giving up more than that for Dangerfield.
In a real market, Adelaide should have got in return an established player from Geelong (eg Guthrie/Caddy in 2016), plus draft picks. Geelong win matches thanks to Dangerfield. What do Adelaide get in return? Gore...wow!
Geelong are a contender this year. They use the system well, they have a great recruiter in Stephen Wells, they get good young players in as well...but without the AFL system as it stands they would have dropped down the ladder by now. Barring injuries, should be top 4 this year.
Real market value what would have Geelong got for a 25yo Ablett?
Oh and Dean Gore the good news is he is now back at Geelong
We have the biggest disadvantage in the comp playing 8 home and 14 away games. Not to mention we are the only team that plays all away finals. your post is rubbish.Geelong supporters will never admit, they have the biggest advantage in the comp being sole tenant of the Victorian ground they also train at. Yet because they're so insecure, they point the finger and have the gall to bag other Vic clubs who actually lose their own home ground advantage quite often when playing their own respective tenants.
Or are they sill crying over the home state final they earned at the MCG, (just like any other year against a bigger Vic team) yet lost against eventual premier Richmond, in 2017. Surely not, That's pretty insecure, even for w***ers.
We have the biggest disadvantage in the comp playing 8 home and 14 away games. Not to mention we are the only team that plays all away finals. your post is rubbish.
Last time I checked, Geelong FC wants to play their big home games at the MCG, which also gives them an advantage at finals time. I do also seem to remember Fremantle playing them down in Geelong in 2013 - so I expect if they play again, or the Giants it would be in Geelong, especially with the ground upgraded.
Fair enough - my mistake, since when do the facts get in the way of an opinion .No, we don't.
The club has been on the record numerous times in wanting 11 home games at Kardinia Park.
It's the AFL that doesn't want to send the big Victorian clubs down the highway.
Hawthorn hasn't played at Kardinia Park since 2006.
Collingwood hasn't played there since 1999.
Essendon hasn't played there since 1993.
Carlton played there last year but their most recent trip before that was in 1997.
You get the idea...
Yep one game in the 40 odd finals. Every other team gets equal amount of home and away finals. We get one in 40.Last time I checked, Geelong FC wants to play their big home games at the MCG, which also gives them an advantage at finals time. I do also seem to remember Fremantle playing them down in Geelong in 2013 - so I expect if they play again, or the Giants it would be in Geelong, especially with the ground upgraded.
Back on topic - regardless of how they've done it, it's been an incredible effort by Geelong, and most other clubs would be completely envious. It's great for the club, supporters and city to have a team be successful for so long.
Similar to Hawthorn for the last 5 years. 2 straight sets in 3 years, wow. Yesterday's news every bit as much as Geelong.They're a great H&A side but their game plan has not stood up to finals football for 8 years now!
Time to think outside the box and come up with something new.
Similar to Hawthorn for the last 5 years. 2 straight sets in 3 years, wow. Yesterday's news every bit as much as Geelong.
I will save it for the Hawthorn thread though.
Having acknowledged the hypocrisy, I will admit that I agree that proof is now in finals performances. We have been extremely poor. No avoiding that reality. If it can't change this year, I would welcome a coaching change!
Last time I checked, Geelong FC wants to play their big home games at the MCG, which also gives them an advantage at finals time. I do also seem to remember Fremantle playing them down in Geelong in 2013 - so I expect if they play again, or the Giants it would be in Geelong, especially with the ground upgraded.
Back on topic - regardless of how they've done it, it's been an incredible effort by Geelong, and most other clubs would be completely envious. It's great for the club, supporters and city to have a team be successful for so long.
Ol straight sets Clarkson!!! Talk about illusions of grandeur from Hawthorn 'supporters'!!! Geelong were much more feared than Hawthorn at the moment!! Having said that, Connor Nash must be keeping coaches around the league awake!!Which will be neigh on impossible, you're stuck with Chris Scott for a few more seasons. If anything you should be hoping for a slide outside of the 8, so the board have a legitimate excuse to turf him out early.
And Hawthorn are not yesterday's news, clubs still fear them. Hawthorn are the most recent team to go back to back and threepeat.................... the Bulldogs and Richmond have failed to emulate them thus far. I'd love an Eagles back to back premiership, will be tough for them to do it.
They're a great H&A side but their game plan has not stood up to finals football for 8 years now!
Time to think outside the box and come up with something new.
Wrong. We want all games at geelong.Last time I checked, Geelong FC wants to play their big home games at the MCG, which also gives them an advantage at finals time. I do also seem to remember Fremantle playing them down in Geelong in 2013 - so I expect if they play again, or the Giants it would be in Geelong, especially with the ground upgraded.
Back on topic - regardless of how they've done it, it's been an incredible effort by Geelong, and most other clubs would be completely envious. It's great for the club, supporters and city to have a team be successful for so long.