Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[gogeelongcats]

On the Hawkins 'story': What an absolute nothing burger. It's a great example of the bullshit that gets reported this time of year. Even in the article revealing this completely un-newsworthy news, Jenkins' says Hawkins and the Cats are: "just a little ways apart from him signing on for next year". Ok, so, a player and a club are discussing his contract and working out the finer details. Wow. Big deal. Definitely worth any of us spending a moment of consideration on.

Hawkins told Jenkins to say it in the media so it is not that simple.

 

[Turbocat]

Agreed, would much rather just take our picks to the draft and play some kids next year.

Some folks are getting pedantic over adding names because the likes of Frampton & Markov are now premiership players. It doesn't mean anything.

They're interchangeable pieces who don't influence the result. It doesn't make them genius acquisitions, they were just as ordinary at Collingwood as they were before.

For instance, if we were to win another premiership next year, I don't think players of that ilk are going to be the difference between that occuring or not.

100%. You go down this list ... and there are more questionable trades than Gold plated wins like the two Premiership successes.

Players like Gunston, Weideman, Corbett, Meek, Schache , Grundy , Logue , Tucker, Cordy, Hunt......

Every club’s ins and outs from the 2022 AFL trade period

All the trade period activity.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Turbocat]

If I was Melbourne I'd be throwing everything at Hawk, 2 years + better pay + some future coaching roll + a decent pick to Geelong to help ease the transition . He might need to think about it. He could be the difference at Melbourne. You desperately need a key forward and we have one of the best and I'm sure we'd entertain the idea.

It will not get to that. The club will just get it done...but if Hawk moved... we would not receive any pick..let alone a decent one. Hre is a UFA and no comp would be given for a player his age.

 

[year of the cat]

How does bulldogs getting pick 4 impact us??? Are they after sanders by any chance??

No idea whether they are targeting him or not. Some rumour it’s Watson they are after but not sure about that.

 

[year of the cat]

Whats their situation with aligned players next year? Darcy junior or an academy player? Maybe the R1 is less valuable to them...like GC and P7.

It does seem a lot ... and its indicative ..that if 4 is worth that then 7 should be worth a good chunk too.

Now we see what the deals are for 10.

Not aware of any highly rated FS or academy picks for them next year which makes the trade even more difficult to justify.

 

[Turbocat]

Not aware of any highly rated FS or academy picks for them next year which makes the trade even more difficult to justify.

I could not remember any but it would make the risk less. That a big risk ...in what we think is a strong draft. Dogs have a injury riddled year and that deal will bite like a white pointer

 

[Hinkley29]

Literally this. If Esava waited 1 more year, he'd leave as a FA and we'd get an end of 1st in return.

System is so broken.

We are going to get a pick this year for Sav that is very similar to an end of first round pick. The difference is negligible.

 

[Son_Of_God29]

It will be a stealth kid that has slipped under the guard like Kane McAuliffe or some sanfl player they like the look of like Kobe Ryan. Early days ..there is usually a hint closer to draft.

Kobe Ryan Screams Wells Pick missed getting Draft last Year but was highly rated by some

 

[Jeff76]

I’d give Hawkins another 10 years if he wanted it, just having him around the young guys is priceless. Just give him what he wants, I’d rather him running around on a walking frame than Dangerfield.


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[Johnny Cattery]

On the Hawkins 'story': What an absolute nothing burger. It's a great example of the bullshit that gets reported this time of year. Even in the article revealing this completely un-newsworthy news, Jenkins' says Hawkins and the Cats are: "just a little ways apart from him signing on for next year". Ok, so, a player and a club are discussing his contract and working out the finer details. Wow. Big deal. Definitely worth any of us spending a moment of consideration on.

And it's coming from Jenkins ...

 

[Johnny Cattery]

He's achieved what the station wanted - say something you could have said in ten words across three minutes and get a headline. Mission accomplished. JJ is trying the KC storyline to get himself a cushy radio job.

Ten words: He wants two years, Geelong have offered one. Will sign.

Hawkins would want two years at this stage????

 

[Johanpetro]

Geelong offer Hawkins 1 year 300-400k and Melbourne go to him and say we will give you 700k for the year and a real shot at another flag. Is he tempted?

 

[D BRIDGE]

Geelong offer Hawkins 1 year 300-400k and Melbourne go to him and say we will give you 700k for the year and a real shot at another flag. Is he tempted?

In all honestly... Probably not.

It can be used as a negotiating tactic but I don't see him uprooting his family, leaving his farm and moving out of his home (to a place where most country Geelong folk hate) for a few extra $$$ after tax. He wouldn't be hard up and hanging for it.

Sure he could not do all the above and drive in every day... but that just makes it even more less likely/desirable.

Deep down I just don't think it is ever happening in his mind... but yeah It can be used to get a bit of a better deal if he feels disrespected and I don't begrudge him doing so if that is the case.

I'm actually a little disappointed/embarrassed for him that it has even gotten to this stage (but I really don't know the ins and outs of it).

I see it as almost zero % chance that Hawkins changes clubs though.

 

[Johanpetro]

In all honestly... Probably not.

It can be used as a negotiating tactic but I don't see him uprooting his family, leaving his farm and moving out of his home (to a place where most country Geelong folk hate) for a few extra $$$ after tax. He wouldn't be hard up and hanging for it.

Sure he could not do all the above and drive in every day... but that just makes it even more less likely/desirable.

Deep down I just don't think it is ever happening in his mind... but yeah It can be used to get a bit of a better deal if he feels disrespected and I don't begrudge him doing so if that is the case.

I'm actually a little disappointed/embarrassed for him that it has even gotten to this stage (but I really don't know the ins and outs of it).

I see it as almost zero % chance that Hawkins changes clubs though.

I agree.

Just pay the man what he thinks fair. We have enough money in the bank to spare next season for sure. I highly doubt he’s demanding 2 years as well. Shouldn’t even get to this stage tbh

 

[Shadow89]

We are going to get a pick this year for Sav that is very similar to an end of first round pick. The difference is negligible.

To be fair, I did post this 10 pages ago before Port made that trade to get the Pick 23 - so I wasn't to know this.

 

[D BRIDGE]

To be fair, I did post this before Port made that trade to get the Pick 23 - so I wasn't to know this.

Nek minnit we accept Freo's F2 for him with an F4 going back.

Jokes by the way peeps... That didn't happen...yet.

 

[Shadow89]

Nek minnit we accept Freo's F2 for him with an F4 going back.

Jokes by the way peeps... That didn't happen...yet.

By all accounts, it sounds like 23 is the major part of the deal, so I'd expect some back and forth, but should be done by the end of this week.

Problem for Port is, we really don't have much else to do this year

 

[cats_09]

Trade news for another team - but can anyone explain this one?

So Port want to continue developing Duursma as a wing, but sounds like he wants more midfield time, mentioned in the article is to play "on ball" more which Port said is unlikely to happen with their current midfield setup. He was told he's welcome to explore his options and he lands on Essendon - how exactly he is going to get more midfield/on ball time at Essendon, and especially with others they're looking at bringing in?




Link with more info here - LIVE: ‘Wasn’t happy’ – Details on gun’s Port exit; Freo shock tipped to spark race for Pies favourite

 

[BORIS332]

Kobe Ryan Screams Wells Pick missed getting Draft last Year but was highly rated by some

Can't kick.

 

[Shadow89]

This Lachie Schultz situation is Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

all over again. I need to return home for personal reasons, but I'm only going to West Coast.

So disingenuous.

 

[Shadow89]

Trade news for another team - but can anyone explain this one?

So Port want to continue developing Duursma as a wing, but sounds like he wants more midfield time, mentioned in the article is to play "on ball" more which Port said is unlikely to happen with their current midfield setup. He was told he's welcome to explore his options and he lands on Essendon - how exactly he is going to get more midfield/on ball time at Essendon, and especially with others they're looking at bringing in?




Link with more info here - LIVE: ‘Wasn’t happy’ – Details on gun’s Port exit; Freo shock tipped to spark race for Pies favourite

I was in a bit of disbelief reading that too.

Merrett
Parish
Shiel
Caldwell
Setterfield
Hobbs
Perkins
Tsatas
Stringer (pinch hitting)

He'd get a few midfield rotations, but not much more than that. Very poor choice by him.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I was in a bit of disbelief reading that too.

Merrett
Parish
Shiel
Caldwell
Setterfield
Hobbs
Tsatas
Stringer (pinch hitting)

He'd get a few midfield rotations, but not much more than that. Very poor choice by him.

He'll play midfield ...



In the VFL.

 

[Shadow89]

He'll play midfield ...



In the VFL.

Think he'll be delisted in 2 years tbh. After seeing him in the Finals, I'm very glad we didn't go anywhere near him as part of the Sav deal.

 

[Rubberducky]

Hawkins told Jenkins to say it in the media so it is not that simple.

Or Hawkins was happy for him to run with this story knowing good and well its more about timing. It's no stress to Hawk or the club to have headlines- and JJ is a few months into a media gig so it's a win for him.

 

[cats_09]

I was in a bit of disbelief reading that too.

Merrett
Parish
Shiel
Caldwell
Setterfield
Hobbs
Perkins
Tsatas
Stringer (pinch hitting)

He'd get a few midfield rotations, but not much more than that. Very poor choice by him.

Isn't Essendon also favourite to land Gresham who'll be part of the midfield/forward rotation - so another player he'll be behind