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Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II
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Kolo has his limitations but hes still a regular in a top 4 side.
Not a fringe player who barely has 50 games in 8 years and then has 2 possessions in a GF.
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Might want to check how much jack ginnivan is celebrating a month from now i reckon.
Too many McDonald's in Geelong districts these days?
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Doesn't affect his 23 season though
I hope the players watched this and kick themselves because this year might have been one of the best chances we would have had for back to back, and the Pies will be thinking that next year. Dees were meant to be a dynasty and tapered off, the other big teams like Port and Brisbane have horrendous MCG records.
There is no obvious "dynasty" team and next years flag will be as wide open as this years.
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Yeah but the numbers are misleading because their data is skewed by cox being 31 as is elliot, plus whe and sidebottom and pendlebury and howe.
As good as a lot of those players are only howe really plays in a key position for them at this point the rest are role players.
Whereas danger hawkins cameron stanley guthrie blicavs and duncan all play key critical positions for us and are over 30.
Coll also have better quality players in that crucial 25-28yo age bracket like de goey moore maynard josh daicos noble (i know he missed but he was crucial this year) mcstay cameron plus mitchell and adams pushing 30. Cameron is bog average but the rest are very good to elite. Whereas our players in the same age bracket really are only moc atkins kolo bews bowes sav jack henry and zuthrie. Apart from henry and atkins we dont have the same quality in the middle age bracket.
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I know im just saying they might have a premiership hangover next year like us.
Kobe Gryant
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Dubs, you're barely on board when we're winning flags...so I can't say I'm surprised with your thoughts.
However, it feels like you've just reiterated what I've said? Collingwood are the premiers, they've earned favouritism until we see a decent amount of footy in '24.
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He will get one more year bc of their lack of tall depth but i doubt he makes it.
Kobe Gryant
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It's not the length of the pre-season, it's the partying that sets you back.
Hodge spoke about it during the year. It's that extra couple of beers after a training session, at Christmas, stuff like that.
While the Pies were burning and getting straight back into training, our boys were basking in their glory and (rightly) enjoying themselves.
It made for a disappointing season, but we'll be seeing a very different approach this year. Fitness/professionalism had never been an issue for our club prior to this year.
Vdubs
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Very on board.
You're spot on with this post.
My point was just that Pies are the premiers, it's up to other teams too challenge them now.
Kobe Gryant
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Nobody's saying we'll just climb straight back to the top next year because we're Geelong and that's what we do.
I don't believe anyone here is exhibiting that type of hubris, there's tangible reasons.
A proper grueling summer, resulting in a fit side able to run out games, and have bodies prepared for the rigours of week-to-week elite football.
Our major issue being our midfield, with some urgent reinforcement in the form of Guthrie & Clark, with Bailey Smith now a distinct possibility. The likes of Dow, Wines & Thomas feel less likely, but are still possible inclusions.
If not, a Ryley Sanders type is a mature enough body to still contribute day 1 at an AFL club, and with grunt and toughness at the contest, he's exactly what the doctor ordered.
The likes of Henry, Bruhn, Holmes, Neale, Dempsey & SDK will only improve, with Close & Stengle hoping to bounce back from disappointing years (May have partied a bit too much post flag)
A full season from Jack Henry will help, as will another proper pre-season for Jez & Hawk, who were both clearly hampered for large portions of the year.
Bowes will flourish with another year in our system, and hopefully some injury luck. Even the great Gary Junior said himself it took him a year to get his head around how we play.
The ruck while not a strength, will be more than fine if Stanley can stay healthy or the addition of a Flynn type. Some quick development from Conway could do wonders, too.
I'm in no way saying the flags in the bag in 2024...but we're not kidding ourselves here thinking it's possible.
Credit to Brisbane & Collingwood...but the cream of the crop are not that good.
I don't believe anyone here is exhibiting that type of hubris, there's tangible reasons.
A proper grueling summer, resulting in a fit side able to run out games, and have bodies prepared for the rigours of week-to-week elite football.
Our major issue being our midfield, with some urgent reinforcement in the form of Guthrie & Clark, with Bailey Smith now a distinct possibility. The likes of Dow, Wines & Thomas feel less likely, but are still possible inclusions.
If not, a Ryley Sanders type is a mature enough body to still contribute day 1 at an AFL club, and with grunt and toughness at the contest, he's exactly what the doctor ordered.
The likes of Henry, Bruhn, Holmes, Neale, Dempsey & SDK will only improve, with Close & Stengle hoping to bounce back from disappointing years (May have partied a bit too much post flag)
A full season from Jack Henry will help, as will another proper pre-season for Jez & Hawk, who were both clearly hampered for large portions of the year.
Bowes will flourish with another year in our system, and hopefully some injury luck. Even the great Gary Junior said himself it took him a year to get his head around how we play.
The ruck while not a strength, will be more than fine if Stanley can stay healthy or the addition of a Flynn type. Some quick development from Conway could do wonders, too.
I'm in no way saying the flags in the bag in 2024...but we're not kidding ourselves here thinking it's possible.
Credit to Brisbane & Collingwood...but the cream of the crop are not that good.
To be fair to Frampton hes always looked miles more competent in defence, he was very good back there earlier in the year, why teams keep trying to turn him into a forward baffles me
If we can bring in one or two decent midfielders I am significantly more confident of a flag next year than I was when we were on a 10 game winning run last year.
But will we, is the question.
Kobe Gryant
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You've cleaned up your act...but surely now you can understand how tedious it is for the rest of us now.
Kobe Gryant
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We'll bring in someone, just depends on who. Too much smoke around too many names.
The club won't stand still, the players and club would be filthy that it looks like we let an opportunity slip through enjoying ourselves too much.
Barrett's and ITK's have been consistent that we'll be after Smith, or someone similar to bolster the midfield weakness. Just whether we can get it done.
If the club rates him high enough, it could be a big play for Sanders, too.
Said it before, but they don't let us down often. The goal to compete every year is still there, and we're going to need a mid (or two) to do it.
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That is true
But our 22 celebrations definitely impacted our 23 season.
And I am ok with that
Probably shows what a fantatsic era we had...in 07 thru 11 to not have those hang over years. We have had a near decade of getting pipped just short of the ultimate... , add the covid years .. so I agree ..Im fine with gusy having a bit of a let down.
Getting some fresher younger guys into our best side that have not had success, let them start to become the leaders of the new era transition a few of the older players out will see us bounce. Its just a matter when and to what degree.
I hate to see us trade anything of significance for Wines.
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Wojcinski
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Wines + 37 for Esava + F1 would keep both clubs happy I think. If we're picking up Wines, we plan on that F1 finishing in the 15-18 range.
I don’t doubt we’re interested in smith. But I’m not sure if we are willing/able to come up with enough to appease the dogs while he’s contracted for next year.
And I don’t know l if there’s anyone else available that will significantly boost us next year.
Wines is a 29yo next week, just FYI. And if it's a salary dump, that could even be generous from us, but close to ball park.
We won't go for him tbh. We brought in Bruhn, and have Knevitt and Clark in development. We might not even go for Sanders, but probably will if he is best available. Guthrie and Clark next year, and another 4kgs on Knevitt gives us some new options next season already.
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No thanks.
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Why not lower the eyes a little? Rhylee West at the dogs. He does not butcher the ball as much as Bailey Smith and I believe wants more on ball time. Is a guy who looks to give everything when he plays.
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Agreed. Wines was either injured or cooked or maybe both.
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