Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[Jumping Jack]

Nakia Cockatoo retired.

One of the bigger "busts" in terms of top 10 picks and what the potential upside was. They won't all work out but he was one I had high hopes for.

Stephen Hooper was probably the worst - #1 pick in the draft and played 21 average games for Geelong. Tigers had Richard Lounder as #1 pick and he only played 4.

 

[CatRiot]

Spud but can play both ends and will cost nothing, provides cover for a couple years with Sav going out.

Probably consider him because he can mark the footy, and losing Esava, and with the concerns about Henry's feet, you need to bring someone in I suppose. He is probably more likely to be cover for Henry. They still will bring in another KPD tbh. We have the list spots.

A four way trade involving grundy, wines and esava was floated on trade radio. Cats could end up with pick 23 for Sav.
Could help us draft Stevens, move up for Sanders or trade for Bailey Smith.

Do you take Stevens if we get a chance to get either Sanders or Smith... Probably not. I can see Cats being interested in Stevens though, being a Warnambool kid especially. I'd prefer to bring in a quality tall like Shoenmaker at 23, he would be a very good upgrade on Esava imho, younger, can mark, and has a great kick on him.

23 to Dees for Grundy
Wines to Melbourne
23 for wines
Esava for 23

Is my guess

I'd probably run for the hills with that one if I was Cats. To have Esava in that company of players, albeit they are older and carry large contracts.

 

[Leeds17]

Really happy we are not in the hunt for Oliver. Melbourne silence is concerning - very much the dog that didn't bark.

There are massive off field issues that the media won't even touch on

From what I understand it’s not as bad as the silence would make you believe, he & Petracca have never gotten on, he’s tested the waters on leaving before, both parties not happy with how his injury was handled this season, he’s not matured emotionally linearly the way Melbourne would’ve hoped & they see a window to possibly pulling off something that lands them a KPF & assets to get up to Pick 1, definitely walking a tightrope if they do want to retain him though.

I think the assumed & rumoured drug stuff is overblown.

 

[Grimoz]

Probably consider him because he can mark the footy, and losing Esava, and with the concerns about Henry's feet, you need to bring someone in I suppose. He is probably more likely to be cover for Henry. They still will bring in another KPD tbh. We have the list spots.

Do you take Stevens if we get a chance to get either Sanders or Smith... Probably not. I can see Cats being interested in Stevens though, being a Warnambool kid especially. I'd prefer to bring in a quality tall like Shoenmaker at 23, he would be a very good upgrade on Esava imho, younger, can mark, and has a great kick on him.

I'd probably run for the hills with that one if I was Cats. To have Esava in that company of players, albeit they are older and carry large contracts.

23 for Sav is an absolute steal for us, if you're hoping for more you are going to be very disappointed

 

[Gavin Excell]

My excitement is palpable

Hawthorn fans refer to Obrien as "Glimpses" which says everything

 

[catempire]

Nakia Cockatoo retired.

But I thought Brisbane was going to fix his body??

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Best is to feel we have no hope and see how it pans out.
=We have very little to offer or trade with

This is your life mantra, not ours

 

[Kobe Gryant]

From what I understand it’s not as bad as the silence would make you believe, he & Petracca have never gotten on, he’s tested the waters on leaving before, both parties not happy with how his injury was handled this season, he’s not matured emotionally linearly the way Melbourne would’ve hoped & they see a window to possibly pulling off something that lands them a KPF & assets to get up to Pick 1, definitely walking a tightrope if they do want to retain him though.

I think the assumed & rumoured drug stuff is overblown.

Petracca has always seemed like a really good bloke and the type that gets along with everyone.

If they don't get along then I'd be pretty confident Clarry is the issue.

 

[Grimoz]

But I thought Brisbane was going to fix his body??

You just knew when he came back to preseason looking like he'd put on 30kgs it wasnt going to end well, what made him so good to start was his pace and agility, in the end he was more of a damaged wrecking ball.

 

[Bring back Moloney]

From what I understand it’s not as bad as the silence would make you believe, he & Petracca have never gotten on, he’s tested the waters on leaving before, both parties not happy with how his injury was handled this season, he’s not matured emotionally linearly the way Melbourne would’ve hoped & they see a window to possibly pulling off something that lands them a KPF & assets to get up to Pick 1, definitely walking a tightrope if they do want to retain him though.

I think the assumed & rumoured drug stuff is overblown.

Have heard with solid mail that he is extremely fond of the nose beers, to the point of it being a genuine problem IN SEASON, as well as other bizarre personal traits involving hygiene and general professionalism. Very strange situation the Dees find themselves in.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

This is your life mantra, not ours

I don't think we're going to land anyone and I'm confident we'll never win another flag.

Am I doing this right?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

But I thought Brisbane was going to fix his body??

They did! The sports car is fixed but can only run in first gear.

Still fixed it though

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I don't think we're going to land anyone and I'm confident we'll never win another flag.

Am I doing this right?

We need to accept our era has been over since bomber left!

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

23 to Dees for Grundy
Wines to Melbourne
23 for wines
Esava for 23

Is my guess

It was actually Wines to Sydney

 

[Jumping Jack]

Have heard with solid mail that he is extremely fond of the nose beers, to the point of it being a genuine problem IN SEASON, as well as other bizarre personal traits involving hygiene and general professionalism. Very strange situation the Dees find themselves in.

Yeah I think it's a bit of a stretch for some to suggest that it's rumoured.

Common knowledge I'd say. But that could be said for a solid number of players on AFL lists. What annoys me is that they know the rules but whenever one of them gets caught, it conveniently becomes a cry for help or a problem linked to their mental health. Spare me - if you want the money and the recognition that comes from being an AFL player then you also need to be prepared to make the sacrifices.

If you stuff up then you need to own it.

And before people scream about the special rules that only apply to AFL players, well that's garbage. Plenty of industries now that require regular drug testing of employees.

 

[CatRiot]

O'Brien provides us with cover for J Henry and Kolo. One has feet issues, the other has concussion issues. No probs with getting him, because we have list spots available, and we don't have enough decent draft picks anyway.

 

[Gavin Excell]

O'Brien provides us with cover for J Henry and Kolo. One has feet issues, the other has concussion issues. No probs with getting him, because we have list spots available, and we don't have enough decent draft picks anyway.

He's a C grader

 

[Kobe Gryant]

23 for Sav is an absolute steal for us, if you're hoping for more you are going to be very disappointed

As far as fake trades go, there's actually a bit of merit in that one.

Grundy and Sav for obvious reasons, but Wines has long been rumoured to be Melbourne bound, pretty much as soon as he was drafted.

Best mates with Viney from childhood, and if Oliver is indeed gone, he's a handy replacement.

The question for us becomes is 7 + 23 enough for Smith? You'd think so, but every chance they just play hardball and be dicks about the whole thing.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

He's a C grader

If everything goes to plan he won't play a game anyway. It's just Ceglar 2.0 in defence.

He's depth, and will help out at VFL level which we need. I'm alright with it.

 

[AM]

23 for Sav is an absolute steal for us, if you're hoping for more you are going to be very disappointed

Nup! He's approaching his best years and ready-made big back-half players are at a premium. As can be seen by North's Ben McKay likely to be a first-round compensation pick. 37 would have been a joke.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Not so fast there PO.
Clarko as coach- enhances their future.
They have many concessions and great picks, as well as a building list.
They have an awesome KF and some great mids/hbf /rising stars already.
Not quite the basket case they have been.

I get that but he wont see it that way. They are still 3-4 yeard off contending and he wont agree to go there.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Nup! He's approaching his best years and ready-made big back-half players are at a premium. As can be seen by North's Ben McKay likely to be a first-round compensation pick. 37 would have been a joke.

With the lack of leverage we have a 20s pick for sav would be absolute best case scenario.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I can categorically put the Oliver story in the bin - at least from a Geelong perspective.

Not something we'd consider, and the terms would blow up our approach to cap management and player contracts. So it's a firm NO and priorities lie elsewhere. Makes for good fodder on these forums and in the media, but we won't be playing the game on this one. Melbourne are supposedly shopping a few "name" players around and the reason is that they want early draft access......early as in a couple of picks inside the top 10. They've long held interest in Harley Reid so if any deal is done, expect it to be with Eagles or North to get hold of those first few picks.

Melbourne arent getting reid no matter what they do so i dont understand the approach.

 

[AM]

With the lack of leverage we have a 20s pick for sav would be absolute best case scenario.

23 would be a reasonable result, but it's not a "steal"

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We might be talking about a different kid making his debut. The kid I saw against Bulldogs had comfortably beaten the All Australian ruckman to half time, and finished with more hitouts than anyone else on the ground?

Yes and look how cooked toby was at 3/4 time. One off season doesnt fix that.