Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

" Rule is back

 

[triple treat]

No they don't. We will be totally blind sided and shocked if he leaves. Talks all year have him staying on a multi year deal. Players can change their mind. He is yet to speak to other clubs, his manager knows the offers but he has not engaged with other clubs.
Can't see him moving away from his family to an interstate team.

Statton24, since you seem to have your finger on the pulse with possible ins and outs for us. Have you heard anything on Brauhn and Thomas?

 

[Stratton24]

Statton24, since you seem to have your finger on the pulse with possible ins and outs for us. Have you heard anything on Brauhn and Thomas?

no, nothing on those two but we keep it in the vault on possible incoming players - it was only leaked about Amon so early in the year because his manger stopped communication with Carlton, Melbourne and St.Kilda

 

[cryptor]

No they don't. We will be totally blind sided and shocked if he leaves. Talks all year have him staying on a multi year deal. Players can change their mind. He is yet to speak to other clubs, his manager knows the offers but he has not engaged with other clubs.
Can't see him moving away from his family to an interstate team.

TD's post doesn't contradict this. North and Brisbane could think they have him off the back of strong offers and chats with his manager (who isn't going to shut down any talks until Jack re-signs).

 

[westhawk]

No they don't. We will be totally blind sided and shocked if he leaves. Talks all year have him staying on a multi year deal. Players can change their mind. He is yet to speak to other clubs, his manager knows the offers but he has not engaged with other clubs.
Can't see him moving away from his family to an interstate team.

Spot on. After the passing of his dad, would be shocked if he moved interstate. Is the only son and would imagine he would want to be there for his mum. Spoke of his love for the club aswell and how much they helped his family . Can’t see him moving.

 

[Stratton24]

TD's post doesn't contradict this. North and Brisbane could think they have him off the back of strong offers and chats with his manager (who isn't going to shut down any talks until Jack re-signs).

yes lots of games go on at this time of year with player managers - they get slimier every year

 

[Bugs1977]

Statton24, since you seem to have your finger on the pulse with possible ins and outs for us. Have you heard anything on Brauhn and Thomas?

So what is the go with Tarryn Thomas? Is the guy a head case or are the issues with just not wanting to be at the NMFC? As talented as he is there's always been something about him that has seemed a little off. I do however like that he has a bit of hardness about him in that when he tackles the other guy knows he's been tackled. We've kind of missed that since our 3peat era. Anyways the kid signed a 2 year contract extension at the start of the season so just wanted to see if anyone knows what is going on. Is it Clarko just looking to hit the draft or is it a case of buyer beware and what would a deal look like to snag him.

 

[Teamwork Talks]

No they don't. We will be totally blind sided and shocked if he leaves. Talks all year have him staying on a multi year deal. Players can change their mind. He is yet to speak to other clubs, his manager knows the offers but he has not engaged with other clubs.
Can't see him moving away from his family to an interstate team.

Geez I hope you are right S24

 

[Bugs1977]

TD's post doesn't contradict this. North and Brisbane could think they have him off the back of strong offers and chats with his manager (who isn't going to shut down any talks until Jack re-signs).

I also would've also thought that the process now after receiving offers from other clubs is for Jack's manager to then take those to us and see what we're willing to do. If it's close or there about then he probably stays but like any veteran it will likely be the number of years that matters just as much as $$$

 

[Billyc]

TD's post doesn't contradict this. North and Brisbane could think they have him off the back of strong offers and chats with his manager (who isn't going to shut down any talks until Jack re-signs).

Indeed. Both Hawthorn and Carlton thought they had Coniglio based on discussions with him and his manager and there's been plenty of others like that too. That's the game. Means nothing without a signature.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Indeed. Both Hawthorn and Carlton thought they had Coniglio based on discussions with him and his manager and there's been plenty of others like that too. That's the game. Means nothing without a signature.

Yep. There were a lot of ppl at hawthorn that thought the rabbit was coming

 

[Billyc]

Yep. There were a lot of ppl at hawthorn that thought the rabbit was coming

And Carlton, an often-overlooked part of that fiasco. Players and managers rarely say "no" when talking to clubs and often give a very strong and convincing impression of "yes." They keep it all on the table for negotiation.

 

[Bugs1977]

And Carlton, an often-overlooked part of that fiasco.

Who could forget the private jet and the wining and dining

 

[Topiary]

Gunston if he does move will move to a vic club i don't think he is leaving his mum to go and play in brissie

Yep

 

[burner1]

Indeed. Both Hawthorn and Carlton thought they had Coniglio based on discussions with him and his manager and there's been plenty of others like that too. That's the game. Means nothing without a signature.

Yep. The fact Gunston hasn’t signed yet is the interesting part. Was a number of players extended over course of season. Yes his dads passing might have put things on hold but appears at least he’s considering this options. Could be a move or could be just his manager getting more money out of the hawks.

How many other big names are out there who are uncontracted / not signed yet? Maybe degoey but reasons for this.

 

[Topiary]

Yep. There were a lot of ppl at hawthorn that thought the rabbit was coming

I don’t want to go over and over this incident and ugly trade…….but I am very, very, very reliably informed he told AC, the players and leadership group he had accepted terms and was coming.

 

[Sturty]

No they don't. We will be totally blind sided and shocked if he leaves. Talks all year have him staying on a multi year deal. Players can change their mind. He is yet to speak to other clubs, his manager knows the offers but he has not engaged with other clubs.
Can't see him moving away from his family to an interstate team.

Love it

 

[HeHateMe]

Would hate to see Brockman go and I think we can support him over here if he gives us a chance. But if we are to lose him I'd hope we would be asking for either Freos future 2nd which will be around the 30+ mark or WC Current 26.

Something like Brockman and pick 50 for Pick 26 or him straight for Freo future 2nd.

Any chance of us going this route or would we just let him go without a fight to help him out?

Just seems like a waste for us to invest the draft pick and then let go of young talent at this stage of our rebuild when we should be trying to get as many blokes as we can coming through together

 

[Jazzfan]

I don’t want to go over and over this incident and ugly trade…….but I am very, very, very reliably informed he told AC, the players and leadership group he had accepted terms and was coming.

Lucky break for us as it's turned out really.

 

[Braidz]

Lucky break for us as it's turned out really.

I’d say this year he’s nearly back to his best. If he did come to us does that injury happen? Who knows

 

[Jazzfan]

I’d say this year he’s nearly back to his best. If he did come to us does that injury happen? Who knows

Even then, we weren't close to contending if we landed him.

It's possible we win a few more games, and continue to delay this rebuild and clean air we desperately needed to have.

Right now, Cogs would just add to Tom and Jaeger as a player we'd be asking to change roles and entertain offers for.

Definitely a good result for me. Especially considering the contract we would have offered (not GWS levels, but still).

 

[Glenferrie Arty Deco]

I know he's maligned, but is it worth getting Paddy Dow

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Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

almost free at this point and allowing him proper midfield minutes (unlike at Carlton) , given his pace adds a point of difference to most of our mids?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I know he's maligned, but is it worth getting Paddy Dow almost free at this point and allowing him proper midfield minutes (unlike at Carlton) , given his pace adds a point of difference to most of our mids?

He’d have to come very cheap because if he wasn’t contracted for 2023 he would probably be a delisted free agent.

 

[Braidz]

I know he's maligned, but is it worth getting Paddy Dow almost free at this point and allowing him proper midfield minutes (unlike at Carlton) , given his pace adds a point of difference to most of our mids?

Every time I’ve seen him play his disposal is horrendous. By foot and hand. I’d say no

 

[Burtman]

I know he's maligned, but is it worth getting Paddy Dow almost free at this point and allowing him proper midfield minutes (unlike at Carlton) , given his pace adds a point of difference to most of our mids?

He’s terrible mate, would you rather give midfield minutes to Dow or to Macdonald, ward and co?

 

[badgrill]

I know he's maligned, but is it worth getting Paddy Dow almost free at this point and allowing him proper midfield minutes (unlike at Carlton) , given his pace adds a point of difference to most of our mids?

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