Hawthorn - West Coasts bogey side

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Abasi said:
Sure this thread is about West Coast and Hawthorn ...but what about Richmond. šŸ¤£
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The desperate pleas for validation get tiring, huh?
 
The eagles have definitely been the second best team in the league since they joined in 1987

They seem to have lost some pretty important matches over the years to the Hawks

Though Iā€™m still bitter about that 1992 final - only time Iā€™ve thrown a remote at the TV
 

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MightyHawks said:
The eagles have definitely been the second best team in the league since they joined in 1987

They seem to have lost some pretty important matches over the years to the Hawks

Though Iā€™m still bitter about that 1992 final - only time Iā€™ve thrown a remote at the TV
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Great game of footy. The 1st qtr cost you like it did at Waverley mid season where you kicked 4.6 in both.

Langdon, Matera, Sumich got some freak goals that day. A great spectacle indeed. You would have won the flag if you got past them that day. You's always had us, and beat us twice in the home and away not to mention the final the year before.


Dunstall - 145 goals in 1992. Absolute star.
 
Hawks are pure class. 1996 that merger game vs the Dees was on the other day. One point win and that got you in the 8 where you narrowly went down by a goal to 1st placed Swans at the SCG a week later.


I think J.D snagged 10 vs the Dees too including his centenary major. Absolute ******* legend.
 
Macpotata said:
Great game of footy. The 1st qtr cost you like it did at Waverley mid season where you kicked 4.6 in both.

Langdon, Matera, Sumich got some freak goals that day. A great spectacle indeed. You would have won the flag if you got past them that day. You's always had us, and beat us twice in the home and away not to mention the final the year before.


Dunstall - 145 goals in 1992. Absolute star.
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Iā€™ve always felt that the 1992 flag would have cemented that team as being l the best of all time rather than having to argue about it with 50s dees and 20s pies
 
* I'm jizzing over that Hawks 92 side now. And all things Hawthorn. Just love their ability to rise in big game and in finals, at times against the odds. Like 91 vs the WCE after going 0-2 in the regular season then getting them at Subi in the qualifier and destroying them in the Granny. Gave up a 4 goal start too. The 92 elimination as mentioned. That game went down to the wire and could have been Game Over at QTR Time.

What about vs North in the 94 final? 127 point loss earlier in the season and a 40 point drubbing later on and took them to E.T. 1996 as mentioned, the Port win in 2001, Crows 2007, Cats 2008 and the Swans and Eagles in 2014/15. 2018 make top 4 from nowhere.


A great, great club. If you're a football purist or a football lover, you can't deny their greatness.
 
lets not forget 2019 - destroyed a few teams hopes and snagged some great wins along the way too.
 

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I often think had we won in 91 we wouldn't have won in 92.

That loss drove the squad.

I feel like its a huge factor in why we've never gone B2B.

We are happy with one.

Its a good problem to have I guess....

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TheUndertaker said:
not Richmond hehe

our bunnies, some interesting results

2008 - Round 20
Richmond 105
Hawthorn 76
(Hawthorns last loss before the flag)

2012 - Round 9
Richmond 137
Hawthorn 75
(Rebuilding Richmond demolish Hawthorn in their grand final year)

2013 - Round 19
Richmond 107
Hawthorn 66
(Hawthorns last loss before the premiership, a running joke at this stage, If Richmond defeat Hawthorn, Hawks winning the premiership)

2015 - Round 18
Richmond 71
Hawthorn 53
(Yet again another Hawthorn loss to Richmond in their premiership year).

And yes, Richmond havenā€™t lost to the Hawks since the Tigers have ascended to the top of the competition, including the 2018 QF Final victory, the first ever meeting between two clubs in a final...two clubs whoā€™ve won 20 premierships combined out of a possibly 53, can you believe only met once in a final???
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Richmond fans conveniently forget that 3 out of 4 of those wins were essentially dead rubbers for a Hawthorn team that had a top 4 spot already in hand.

They also forget the times we beat them during our prelim making years of 2008,2011-2015. This wins were often early in the year when the top 4 wasn't decided and our priority was winning games instead of nursing players into peak condition before a finals campaign. This includes 10 goal smashings of Tigers in 2011 (round 3) and 2014 (round 6). They also forget to mention the two times we smashed them when going for the 4-peat in 2016 (46 and 70 point drubbings).

Basically tigers had one decent win over that period in a context where Hawthorn hadn't already pretty much nailed a top 4 spot, and that was the 2012 round 9 game. Yet their fans insist on trotting out their highly edited record against us in threads that having nothing to do with Richmond because it thinks it legitimises their team as a modern powerhouse. If they'd met us in a GF in any of those years it would have made what we did to WC in 2015 and Sydney 2014 look kind and gentle.
 
hk89 said:
Richmond fans conveniently forget that 3 out of 4 of those wins were essentially dead rubbers for a Hawthorn team that had a top 4 spot already in hand.

They also forget the times we beat them during our prelim making years of 2008,2011-2015. This wins were often early in the year when the top 4 wasn't decided and our priority was winning games instead of nursing players into peak condition before a finals campaign. This includes 10 goal smashings of Tigers in 2011 (round 3) and 2014 (round 6). They also forget to mention the two times we smashed them when going for the 4-peat in 2016 (46 and 70 point drubbings).

Basically tigers had one decent win over that period in a context where Hawthorn hadn't already pretty much nailed a top 4 spot, and that was the 2012 round 9 game. Yet their fans insist on trotting out their highly edited record against us in threads that having nothing to do with Richmond because it thinks it legitimises their team as a modern powerhouse. If they'd met us in a GF in any of those years it would have made what we did to WC in 2015 and Sydney 2014 look kind and gentle.
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That cope
 
Captain_Bender said:
That cope
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What's to cope? We won 4 flags over that period, while Tigers were enjoying nearly 40 years in the wilderness at the time. Their dead rubber wins over us in flag years is hardly any skin off my nose. If anything the 'cope' is tigers fans that think those dead rubbers let them talk about their '2 in 3 years" team in the same breath as truly great teams like Hawthorn.
 
hk89 said:
What's to cope? We won 4 flags over that period, while Tigers were enjoying nearly 40 years in the wilderness at the time. Their dead rubber wins over us in flag years is hardly any skin off my nose. If anything the 'cope' is tigers fans that think those dead rubbers let them talk about their '2 in 3 years" team in the same breath as truly great teams like Hawthorn.
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As I said cope
 
hk89 said:
What's to cope? We won 4 flags over that period, while Tigers were enjoying nearly 40 years in the wilderness at the time. Their dead rubber wins over us in flag years is hardly any skin off my nose. If anything the 'cope' is tigers fans that think those dead rubbers let them talk about their '2 in 3 years" team in the same breath as truly great teams like Hawthorn.
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Who would care about games gone by or what happened in 1952.
no denying the Hawks are a well polished outfit and seemingly always have been.
It matters nought but when the hawkers weā€™re flying in their 3 peat Richmond were able to give you lot some headaches. Rance and Franklin duels were delectable. I will always maintain Rance had the wood on him. Against the odds we would occasionally turn it up against you blokes.
Any skeric was taken faster than a chip at a seagulls convention.
 
juss said:
I think the unique interest was that when Hawthorn were great and Richmond were average, the Tigers still seemed to cause Hawthorn great trouble, much more than many better teams than us, which was quite odd.

When Sydney were Grand Finalists too, Richmond seemed to do really well against them also.
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Exactly !
We struggled immensely against Geelong.
But thankfully thatā€™s changed :) they hate us now soo much

two wins out of probably the last 24 but the two most important of matches hehe
 
hk89 said:
Richmond fans conveniently forget that 3 out of 4 of those wins were essentially dead rubbers for a Hawthorn team that had a top 4 spot already in hand.

They also forget the times we beat them during our prelim making years of 2008,2011-2015. This wins were often early in the year when the top 4 wasn't decided and our priority was winning games instead of nursing players into peak condition before a finals campaign. This includes 10 goal smashings of Tigers in 2011 (round 3) and 2014 (round 6). They also forget to mention the two times we smashed them when going for the 4-peat in 2016 (46 and 70 point drubbings).

Basically tigers had one decent win over that period in a context where Hawthorn hadn't already pretty much nailed a top 4 spot, and that was the 2012 round 9 game. Yet their fans insist on trotting out their highly edited record against us in threads that having nothing to do with Richmond because it thinks it legitimises their team as a modern powerhouse. If they'd met us in a GF in any of those years it would have made what we did to WC in 2015 and Sydney 2014 look kind and gentle.
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Nah not true. The 2015 game mattered where they won by 3 goals or so on that Friday night as top 2 was on the line and the 8 goal drubbing in the wet at the G in 2013 also certainly mattered.


Don't go talking nonsense son.
 
hk89 said:
Richmond fans conveniently forget that 3 out of 4 of those wins were essentially dead rubbers for a Hawthorn team that had a top 4 spot already in hand.

They also forget the times we beat them during our prelim making years of 2008,2011-2015. This wins were often early in the year when the top 4 wasn't decided and our priority was winning games instead of nursing players into peak condition before a finals campaign. This includes 10 goal smashings of Tigers in 2011 (round 3) and 2014 (round 6). They also forget to mention the two times we smashed them when going for the 4-peat in 2016 (46 and 70 point drubbings).

Basically tigers had one decent win over that period in a context where Hawthorn hadn't already pretty much nailed a top 4 spot, and that was the 2012 round 9 game. Yet their fans insist on trotting out their highly edited record against us in threads that having nothing to do with Richmond because it thinks it legitimises their team as a modern powerhouse. If they'd met us in a GF in any of those years it would have made what we did to WC in 2015 and Sydney 2014 look kind and gentle.
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You didnā€™t mention that Richmond finished 13th in 2016 when Hawthorn beat Richmond twice by those margins. We lost to Sydney by 113 points, GWS by 88, West Coast by 67 and North Melbourne by 70 points. Clearly we were not a good side that year.

Even then, Hawthorn had to kick 9 goals in the last quarter of both games to get to the margin that they got to.
 
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