Killzone 2

[caMoGFC]

So if games are released within this generation on PC, then they don't count? I always assumed they did.

well why should they??

they're not on a console?


(btw i edited that post again after you replied but i hadn't seen your reply yet)

the same game on a pc will always look better...simple

there's no point even bringing a computers graphics into it when it was never in the talking point

if it was for EVER OUT OF EVERYTHING then i can understand you bringing it up if that was my real list.

 

[HBK619]

Getting back on topic (sorta), I'm not quite sure on this game. I mean, I enjoy it immensely, but I feel that once I reach general it will be sorta... lame. I find that getting the ribbons is frustrating, and once I reach general there won't be that much more for me to achieve.

I'll probably trade it in and get the full refund, although if I miss it and feel I made the wrong decision I'll just buy it again.

Sigh.

Sorry, but I'm going to have to say, that's a pretty piss weak reason for taking a game back, firstly you say that you won't have much more to achieve once you get General, but you still won't have the ribbons, that's much more to achieve.

Secondly, you don't really play online games to achieve something, you play them because they are as fun as hell, for example the COD4 prestige's, I only went up to the initial 55 levels because it was pointless for me to restart again just to get a different colour badge, but it didn't stop me playing it(The lag did), same with R:FoM, there wasn't a huge amount to achieve in that game other than pointless rankings(Which added new costume items, but where useless), but I played that for months on end because it was just that damn fun, and that is why you play online games.

As you said, you enjoy it immensely, and at least keep the game for us to have some clan battles in, don't just get rid of it because there isn't anything more to achieve.

 

[caMoGFC]

ok been playing this game wayyyyyyyyy too much i think haha

it's bloody 4:30am and i just stopped playing it

is there some sort of help line i can ring up?

 

[davey_magik]

Brilliant piece of journalism on why Killzone 2 pwns Halo 3...

Source: http://www.destructoid.com/how-killzone-2-is-blatantly-better-than-halo-3-123412.phtml#ext
I'm glad someone said it, ****ing fine work.

I'm at work so all games sites are blocked, but HBK mate, seriously I doubt you have played Halo 3 for more than a couple hours.

Sure I bag out KZ2, but I do it to stir you lot up. I have honestly never played the game or even sat down to watch the trailers, and I seriously doubt I will because I don't see the need when I'm not going to buy the game. If you seriously believe KZ2 is better than Halo 3 then please actually play both extensively, because we all know you have barely touched Halo 3 and are only attacking it because it is on the 360.

I'll read the article tonight and give a response on it then, unless of course someone would like to post the article for me.

 

[Viney]

I'm at work so all games sites are blocked, but HBK mate, seriously I doubt you have played Halo 3 for more than a couple hours.

Sure I bag out KZ2, but I do it to stir you lot up. I have honestly never played the game or even sat down to watch the trailers, and I seriously doubt I will because I don't see the need when I'm not going to buy the game. If you seriously believe KZ2 is better than Halo 3 then please actually play both extensively, because we all know you have barely touched Halo 3 and are only attacking it because it is on the 360.

I'll read the article tonight and give a response on it then, unless of course someone would like to post the article for me.

It's tongue in cheek davey....relax

 

[davey_magik]

It's tongue in cheek davey....relax

I can't read the article so I didn't know .

 

[Equus]

Do I need to play Killzone 1 to play Killzone 2 to know what is going on or is it a stand alone?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

I'm at work so all games sites are blocked, but HBK mate, seriously I doubt you have played Halo 3 for more than a couple hours.

Sure I bag out KZ2, but I do it to stir you lot up. I have honestly never played the game or even sat down to watch the trailers, and I seriously doubt I will because I don't see the need when I'm not going to buy the game. If you seriously believe KZ2 is better than Halo 3 then please actually play both extensively, because we all know you have barely touched Halo 3 and are only attacking it because it is on the 360.

I'll read the article tonight and give a response on it then, unless of course someone would like to post the article for me.

Just imagine an article comparing Killzone 2 and Halo 3 written by HBK, except more factual.

 

[Viney]

a couple of snippets

The main character is a midget:
A few people have whined and complained that the camera angle of Killzone 2 seems to indicate that the main character, Sgt. Sev Betterthanhalo, is some sort of midget. It's really held low to the ground and you need to look up to see any of the characters. Obviously the only people who complain about that are whiny Microshitting Fagtart fanboys who are trying to protect their precious Halo 3, which is not as good as Killzone 2. Their bad journalism and bias disgusts me.
The reason why the camera angle is so low is because Guerrilla Games is trying to demonstrate that those of smaller stature still have a valuable contribution to society, since they can be trained into heartless killing machines and used to defend our planet. This is possible because their experience as social pariahs has allowed them to dehumanize themselves to great degrees, allowing them to end another person's life with cold-blooded and ruthless efficiency.
Compare that to Halo 3's bigoted anti-midget stance and I think you'll agree that Killzone 2 comes out on top every time. This shameless glorification of the tall needs to end.

The controls are superior:
First of all, everybody knows that the Xbox 360 controller is shit, worse than even PC controls, which are notoriously horrible for shooting games. The PS3 Sixaxis Dual Analog Next Gen Interactive Hand Device 3 is the definitive way to enjoy an FPS, and anybody who says otherwise is an Al-Qaeda sympathizer.
A few total nobody imbeciles have moaned like bitches that the controls are too hard for their clueless Halo-loving minds to comprehend, and that there is too much sluggish lag because they can't understand actual tactics in a game. Yes, it's not just jumping around firing Spartan Needlers and driving in Pumbaas, pal! Killzone 2's controls are better because of reasons, and you can't argue with reasons.
Also, it would be a crime for me to not point out the realism of the controls, which makes Killzone 2 a way more immersive game than Master Chief's Stupid Adventure Which Isn't Very Immersive Actually. Just ask any real-life soldier who has fought in a real-life war. He'll tell you that Killzone 2 is just like an actual conflict. Real soldiers have to wait a second to turn around after pushing their left analog stick, and Guerrilla has captured that perfectly.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

This is a major balls up. Brand new game with international beta testing and now this???

It's the PS3, you should be used to this.

 

[Gridlock'd]

ok been playing this game wayyyyyyyyy too much i think haha

it's bloody 4:30am and i just stopped playing it

is there some sort of help line i can ring up?

Haha gold.

I was intending on doing something similar, but fell asleep waiting to connect to the server.

 

[Mancey]

Just imagine an article comparing Killzone 2 and Halo 3 written by HBK, except more factual.

Heh...i reckon it could be him

Just ask any real-life soldier who has fought in a real-life war. He'll tell you that Killzone 2 is just like an actual conflict.

Apparently he's been close to being recruited...a couple of times

 

[RoosterLad]

Do I need to play Killzone 1 to play Killzone 2 to know what is going on or is it a stand alone?

I haven't played KZ1 so it shouldn't really make much of a difference.

The story hasn't intrigued me all that much anyway.

 

[scooterb]

I haven't played KZ1 so it shouldn't really make much of a difference.

The story hasn't intrigued me all that much anyway.

+1

I just tried to make sense of what wikipedia said and that's it.

The campaign is basically a tutorial with a an incohesive story thrown in.

 

[HBK619]

Apparently he's been close to being recruited...a couple of times

Honestly, why go back to this? I said the ARMED FORCES, not ****en MI6, I have several friends and relatives who are enlisted, and have tried to get me in(As they do to everyone), I simply refuse due to the fact I cbf doing it.

Do I need to play Killzone 1 to play Killzone 2 to know what is going on or is it a stand alone?

Nope, there isn't really a story in Killzone 2, it is more just a huge amount of set pieces and it follows Sev(You) and his mates in the war, it's basically the whole war from these guys points of view.

 

[scooterb]

I just had a 3+ hour session. I'm starting to get the hang of the controls now. In the first game, I couldn't hit anything and I was getting so pissed off, but after I unlocked the Helghan SMG and the shotgun I started to dominate.

They both feel much lighter than the rifles and are so much easier to aim, especially in close range. My KD ratio is starting to climb to ~1.2:1.

When you choose medic, how come you lose all the weapons you unlocked? Do you have to unlock each of them again when you change class or medics just can't access those weapons?

Talking about medics, one douche bag revived me in the middle of about 5 enemies. There should be an on screen prompt to choose whether or not you want to be revived. I think the medic gun does damage to enemies as well.

 

[caMoGFC]

When you choose medic, how come you lose all the weapons you unlocked? Do you have to unlock each of them again when you change class or medics just can't access those weapons?

Talking about medics, one douche bag revived me in the middle of about 5 enemies. There should be an on screen prompt to choose whether or not you want to be revived. I think the medic gun does damage to enemies as well.

no the guns aren't available to medics



and TELL ME ABOUT IT SCOOTER!

i have died 2 for the price of one in the middle of a warzone after being revived at least 100 times....
you'd think the ****nuckles would be trying to kill the opposition in a massive situation like that rather than trying to revive a 90% dead guy.

it's a huge flaw in this game and 100% needs an option of whether you want to be revived or not.

 

[Mancey]

How does the revival thing work?

It registers 2 deaths if you're revived? So i take it's not like the WaW second chance perk, where if you get revived on last stand you don't get registered as having died?

 

[HBK619]

and TELL ME ABOUT IT SCOOTER!

i have died 2 for the price of one in the middle of a warzone after being revived at least 100 times....
you'd think the ****nuckles would be trying to kill the opposition in a massive situation like that rather than trying to revive a 90% dead guy.

it's a huge flaw in this game and 100% needs an option of whether you want to be revived or not.

I'm surprised you've been revived that much in the 8 seconds you get, before you have the respawn option(Or get shot dead by the enemy).

In the few times I've been revived(Granted in a 16 person matchtype), I have managed to get away quite easily, just run the **** away and jump about as you go, you can usually do it, and if you have an alright amount of ammo you can get a few COD last stand type kills from it.

 

[Mancey]

Sounds to me rather than going through the rigmarole of an on screen prompt, and a refusal pissing off the medic who was trying to do the right thing by you in the process...

If you get revived...surely it'd be more logical just to make your initial death not count? I mean, if you're revived you're not really dead?

 

[scooterb]

How does the revival thing work?

It registers 2 deaths if you're revived? So i take it's not like the WaW second chance perk, where if you get revived on last stand you don't get registered as having died?

When you initially get shot down by an enemy, you are mortally wounded for about 8-10 seconds. That counts as a death. A medic can revive you during that time. The only benefit of a medic reviving you is that you don't have to go back to the spawn point.

Whats frustrating me, caMo and HBK is that when you die from the result of a group of enemies killing you, medics sometimes revive you right next to that group again. When you revive you have to reload your gun, so you're screwed every time. This registers as 2 deaths.

 

[Ant_]

Sounds to me rather than going through the rigmarole of an on screen prompt, and a refusal pissing off the medic who was trying to do the right thing by you in the process...

If you get revived...surely it'd be more logical just to make your initial death not count? I mean, if you're revived you're not really dead?

I'd say its just an oversight by the developer which will be fixed in the next patch.

 

[scooterb]

If you get revived...surely it'd be more logical just to make your initial death not count? I mean, if you're revived you're not really dead?

Most of them aren't trying to do the right thing. They're usually just after some XP.

To your last point - on the flipside, you would be annoyed if you killed an enemy, only for them to be revived and you not getting a kill.

 

[caMoGFC]

Sounds to me rather than going through the rigmarole of an on screen prompt, and a refusal pissing off the medic who was trying to do the right thing by you in the process...

If you get revived...surely it'd be more logical just to make your initial death not count? I mean, if you're revived you're not really dead?

well right now i'm not certain....even though i'm pretty sure it counts as 2 deaths i'm not 100% certain.
i just know getting killed twice in a matter of 10 seconds annoys the shit out of me especially when the odds are hugely against me

and to hbk there's usually at least one medic on a team and dying 20 or so times a match you're bound to get revived a lot of times...especially on the smaller maps or near the objectives

 

[Mancey]

Most of them aren't trying to do the right thing. They're usually just after some XP.

To your last point - on the flipside, you would be annoyed if you killed an enemy, only for them to be revived and you not getting a kill.

I understand that, but just like the WaW last stand perk...if you don't finish the guy off and someone revives him, yeah it is annoying...but stiff biccies i guess.

In the time it takes a player to revive the guy, you have the opportunity to kill both of them, so its risk/reward.

Same goes for the guy getting XP for reviving you. If you didn't get XP for doing it, you're hardly going to put yourself in danger to help someone.

In WaW when i get second chanced, its a bloody relief. Especially on search and destroy