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Liberals wanted to privatise the payment system.

This after they already froze rebates.

Complete privatisation is a massive stretch, but the libs did themselves no favours with their recent track record on health
Everyone know it's what they want to do. Privatised medicine is a massive boon for the wealthy.
 
It was technically correct - the Libs had Medicare on the table, along with hundreds of other issues to deal with. They just handled it poorly when the news broke. In reality it was never going to happen as we all know it's electoral suicide.
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Sounds like the spin campaign of the century. If they could spin that maybe they'll be able to spin themselves into power.
No. Part of the problem was Turnbull tried to spin it. A taskforce was set up on privatisation and Turnbull said that the proposal never even got to Cabinet, but FOI requests had been rejected by the Coalition with the excuse given that they were 'Cabinet' documents.

That little lie got little coverage in the media, of course, as all of them, bar maybe the Guardian, were busy sucking up to him.

And it's worth noting that really what the discussion is about is 'user pays' rather than privatisation, so depending on what you call it then it can be called 'spin' either way.
 

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Even if he secures government the right of the Liberal Party will circle like sharks, waiting for the opportunity to knife him for some Abbott clone.

That's what makes this a bit sad. I like Turnbull as an economic right and social left PM but the party won't allow it if he doesn't have the convincing mandate from tonight.

ironic as this might sound it is why I didn't vote Liberal - Turnbull is not secure as PM

Turnbull I don't mind, but couldn't bear another round of Abbott
 
Even if he secures government the right of the Liberal Party will circle like sharks, waiting for the opportunity to knife him for some Abbott clone.

That's what makes this a bit sad. I like Turnbull as an economic right and social left PM but the party won't allow it if he doesn't have the convincing mandate from tonight.
Yep, the far right of the Liberal party is the real problem. Turnbull has been fighting with one hand tied behind his back. But the left has the same issues with the union movement.
 
You mean the most left wing yeah? If they hold the balance why would they want to jeopardise someone not siding with them?
I was thinking more along the lines of not having the speaker working to undermine the government by the opposition.
 
How come the polls in Carpicorna haven't been updated in over 90 minutes?
 
Peter Hendy, Wyatt Roy and Fiona Scott all mentioned as key supporters. So he's lost three of his numbers for sure and a whole bunch of the hard-liners who thought Abbott couldn't win will be switching from him.

The Coalition are split from within. Ironically Pauline Hanson started all this, because Howard's dog-whistling has been building the party into this ideological anti-immigration obsessed shambles. Now she's back anyway and the party can't escape the hard-right from making them unelectable.

What the Andrew Bolt's of the world have persistently failed to realise is that Abbott wasn't elected because he was a neoconservative - he was elected because he was an effective opposition leader, and because people were sick of Labor's bullshit.

Turnbull has failed spectacularly because people expected him to be a moderate voice that better reflected them. He failed because he was spineless, and because he thought he could straddle the social moderates and the neocons.

If Turnbull had the power and the backbone to do what people expected of him (with climate change and marriage equality just 2 examples), I wouldn't have such an enjoyable night tonight!
 
Liberals wanted to privatise the payment system.

This after they already froze rebates.

Complete privatisation is a massive stretch, but the libs did themselves no favours with their recent track record on health


Thought labor froze the rebates ?
 

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I thought there were a whole bunch of votes about to be added? Where are they?
 

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So this is your fault?!

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I wish Costello was the PM.

Why? He's every bit as spineless as Turnbull.

If he had any backbone he would've challenged Howard, and not spent 4 years bitching about a supposed agreement that no one gave a shit about other than him.
 

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