Luke Williams

[captain blood 17]

My source tells me that he was under performing in his duties and was told he was out after the draft, and the Club cited personal reasons to protect his long term career

And my source tells me that Brad and Angelina are in trouble after Angelina caught his eyes wondering again at a recent gala event they both attended.
Sources close to the couple say Brad was unapologetic and told Angelina its "Hollywood baby".
Could this be the end for the Hollywood power couple?

 

[Equus]

How do you underperform in your duty if your duty was to watch kids play?

 

[Groupie_]

My source tells me that he was under performing in his duties and was told he was out after the draft, and the Club cited personal reasons to protect his long term career

Lol sour grapes

With your recent draft history how could he under perform ?

 

[blaisee]

My source tells me that he was under performing in his duties and was told he was out after the draft, and the Club cited personal reasons to protect his long term career

williams left carlton because he sees no future for the club.

Malthouse has been given the key to the joint and is oversseing and overulling all decisions. This is a direct opposite of what occurs in all succesful clubs like, sydney, Geelong, Hawthorn ect. Thats why he left.

 

[coops1980]

WE still have roughly a third the staff of Collingwood and hawthorn-at FJ's request. He doesn't trust s his peoples judgement and has his "staff" watch up to 6 games per weekend. HIs model is very different to other clubs and he had to be forced into taking on the new guy. He is paranoid about new staff.
His record in the past 4 years after pick 15 is appalling, with barely one player playing regular senior football. his gambles on the likes on astbury, Griffiths, troy taylor. dean macdonald (I could go on) have been a disaster. Blair Hartley good work has often got confused with his. He simply doesn't find "diamonds in the rough"...the real art of recruiting

 

[NZ_Tiger]

WE still have roughly a third the staff of Collingwood and hawthorn-at FJ's request. He doesn't trust s his peoples judgement and has his "staff" watch up to 6 games per weekend. HIs model is very different to other clubs and he had to be forced into taking on the new guy. He is paranoid about new staff.
His record in the past 4 years after pick 15 is appalling, with barely one player playing regular senior football. his gambles on the likes on astbury, Griffiths, troy taylor. dean macdonald (I could go on) have been a disaster. Blair Hartley good work has often got confused with his. He simply doesn't find "diamonds in the rough"...the real art of recruiting

I'd agree 100%. He's the last plank of old Richmond.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

My guess is you don't go recruiting for ''diamonds in the rough'' when the club needs strong foundations...
The real art of recruiting...you can write a book about that...but FJ has nailed the first picks beautifully...a core of players to build depth around...
First I've heard that FJ is paranoid about new (recruiting) staff...probably stems from FJ being The sole recruiter at the club..its partly his call...
Now that the club has added a little more depth to help him we may get a few roughies to stick...
I'm not displeased with Griffiths...Astbury...Taylor...MacDonald...etc...
Geez hindsight is a big call...

 

[THE_GUN]

I'm not a fan of FJ and never was
Deledio,Cotchin,Martin,Vickery - Were a given , blind freddy could have made these selections
Riewoldt - was a miller selection from memory he was always a big fan of jacks
Ellis,Vlastuin - Good calls but grundy,Menzel wouldnt of been disappointments either
Conca , - I do like but Heppell was the popular choice and would of also been a good call

Over all FJ should of done much better with our picks below 50 in the past

 

[coops1980]

My guess is you don't go recruiting for ''diamonds in the rough'' when the club needs strong foundations...
The real art of recruiting...you can write a book about that...but FJ has nailed the first picks beautifully...a core of players to build depth around...
First I've heard that FJ is paranoid about new (recruiting) staff...probably stems from FJ being The sole recruiter at the club..its partly his call...
Now that the club has added a little more depth to help him we may get a few roughies to stick...
I'm not displeased with Griffiths...Astbury...Taylor...MacDonald...etc...
Geez hindsight is a big call...

You are happy with Dean macdonald and troy taylor...you are easily pleased. Sydney's post 15 picks have played in flags and turned out to be guns...FJ can't get one right.

 

[THE_GUN]

You are happy with Dean macdonald and troy taylor...you are easily pleased. Sydney's post 15 picks have played in flags and turned out to be guns...FJ can't get one right.

I dont have an issue with the Taylor selection, It was a calculated risk at a low cost #50+ something from memory, Taylor without issue's wouldnt of been available at our selections and was considered a 1st round selection on talent alone - Didnt work but worth a risk

McDonald was a total Fup - From the 1st day of training i knew he wouldnt make it , couldnt run a lap of punt Rd and looked dis interested from day 1

 

[coops1980]

I dont have an issue with the Taylor selection, It was a calculated risk at a low cost #50+ something from memory, Taylor without issue's wouldnt of been available at our selections and was considered a 1st round selection on talent alone - Didnt work but worth a risk

McDonald was a total Fup - From the 1st day of training i knew he wouldnt make it , couldnt run a lap of punt Rd and looked dis interested from day 1

you can use the old "it was a late pick it didn't cost us much "argument all the time to defend all his **** ups.
In the last four years, his post 15 picks have been a debacle...compare it to freo or Sydney

 

[theflea]

WE still have roughly a third the staff of Collingwood and hawthorn-at FJ's request. He doesn't trust s his peoples judgement and has his "staff" watch up to 6 games per weekend. HIs model is very different to other clubs and he had to be forced into taking on the new guy. He is paranoid about new staff.
His record in the past 4 years after pick 15 is appalling, with barely one player playing regular senior football. his gambles on the likes on astbury, Griffiths, troy taylor. dean macdonald (I could go on) have been a disaster. Blair Hartley good work has often got confused with his. He simply doesn't find "diamonds in the rough"...the real art of recruiting

This opinion is vaguely familiar rom another poster......

 

[theflea]

You are happy with Dean macdonald and troy taylor...you are easily pleased. Sydney's post 15 picks have played in flags and turned out to be guns...FJ can't get one right.

And some of Sydney top choices were junk. Balance please.

 

[theflea]

I have said this before but, our development from when FJ was FT was pretty awful, so I would like to judge these low picks from about 2011/12 when we spent enough money in these areas.

 

[Groupie_]

Troy Taylor could've been an absolute star the knob

 

[coops1980]

And some of Sydney top choices were junk. Balance please.

Like jetta?

Rohan has had a severely broken leg...what other top 15's have been junk in the past 4 years?

 

[theflea]

Like jetta?

Rohan has had a severely broken leg...what other top 15's have been junk in the past 4 years?

So you only want to cherry pick a timeslot to suit your argument?

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Hindsight works best when you cherry pick...

 

[johnno77]

Like jetta?

Rohan has had a severely broken leg...what other top 15's have been junk in the past 4 years?

Sydney haven't had any other top 15 picks in the last 4 years. Next best was 21 (Lamb - gone & Mitchell who was a likely top 10 pick if not a F/S so the Swans got a bargain)

Go back a few years and you've got guys like Lewis Johnston and Patrick Vezpremi who are no longer there.

 

[coops1980]

Sydney haven't had any other top 15 picks in the last 4 years. Next best was 21 (Lamb - gone & Mitchell who was a likely top 10 pick if not a F/S so the Swans got a bargain)

Go back a few years and you've got guys like Lewis Johnston and Patrick Vezpremi who are no longer there.

so they haven't stuffed them up in the past four years. My whole argument is around FJ's last four years not prior to that, so it is not relevant to my argument. Would you like me to list for their post 15 picks in the past four years?

 

[Heisenberg_]

Why is it only 4 years? Any significance or are you just cherry picking to suit your arguments?

 

[coops1980]

Why is it only 4 years? Any significance or are you just cherry picking to suit your arguments?

Well, that is the timeframe where FJ had total control and what I would deem adequate resources.

Anytime before that would be unfair to FJ...

 

[Predator35]

Riewoldt - was a miller selection from memory he was always a big fan of jacks

If you listen to Wallet, the recruiting department made all the bad decisions when he was in charge, except for Jack. That was his decision.

 

[Heisenberg_]

If you listen to Wallet, the recruiting department made all the bad decisions when he was in charge, except for Jack. That was his decision.

Jack was Jackson not Miller as well. Remember reading an article where he was not happy with Miller trading pick 8 for Polak and 13 because he though Jack may be gone by 13 Nd he was the one he wanted.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

and Tucky...