Analysis MAKE JACK CAPTAIN!

["The Roar Is Back"]

It should be the coach's decision 100% of the time.

no way , the captain should be the players representative and the includes in discussion with the coach. robust and/or heated discussion between coach and captain is a good thing . having the coach pick the captain would often see the coach pick his lapdog. happens in lesser standard football often

 

[Roachy8]

no way , the captain should be the players representative and the includes in discussion with the coach. robust and/or heated discussion between coach and captain is a good thing . having the coach pick the captain would often see the coach pick his lapdog. happens in lesser standard football often

True - but in some cases a group of players will pick their 'lap dog'... - the guy the deals with them how they like to be dealt with.
(Not saying this is the case for us)

 

[Ralll]

Im not sure Jack would be a good skipper, he gets too frustrated at times and speaks his mind rather than backing the plan, you never see Hodge or Selwood do that and its important for the captain to be on the same page as the coaches regardless of what they think.
The players dont even vote him into the leadership group so theres definitely something they dont like about his leadership qualities.

Im not liking Cotch as skipper as he's far too much of an introvert, and Im worried about Vlas's 4 year course on social loafing...

Maybe Rance could be suited but Im worried about the religion thing, I dont think GAblett worked well trying to identify with the GC coke heads.
Maybe Lids, but no one else has that natural flair and confidence of leading people like Selwood or Hodge do.

Id look at targeting a captain through free agency to help change the culture, or maybe have multiple skippers, Lids/Cotch/Rance/Jack.

 

[iwantnecktatts]

Who ALWAYS fronts the media? Jack.
He wears both the club and his heart on his sleeve.

Cotchin is a good bloke but he said himself the role gives him massive anxiety. He is NOT suited to it and it's almost unfair to him to have him continue.

This should be the coach's decision, he should tell the group who his captain is.

No offence, but you well and truly have no idea what he's like.

First of all, Lids has done more media than Jack both this season and last season. Not that it's relevant, players doing a lot of media don't mean they'll be good captains.

Many past and present players wear their heart on their sleeve and love the club, doesn't mean they'd be good captains. Reminds me of the people who wanted Richo as captain, he wouldn't have been the worst choice by far, but give me a spell.

The captain is voted by the players because that's who they look up to and that's who they want to represent them.

Unfair to have him continue despite him wanting to do it each season? Sure

Jack has calmed down a lot, but he is certainly not captain material, or at least he isn't one of the best choices we have. If you knew what it took to be captain + what he was like in team meetings and at training, then I refuse to believe that you wouldn't change your mind on him as capttain.

 

[TigermanM2]

It should be the coach's decision 100% of the time.

Don't worry, a good coach always gets his man, player vote or not. Can you imagine a coach like Clarko putting up with anyone other than the captain he wants?

 

[Rfc2016]

Im not sure Jack would be a good skipper, he gets too frustrated at times and speaks his mind rather than backing the plan, you never see Hodge or Selwood do that and its important for the captain to be on the same page as the coaches regardless of what they think.
The players dont even vote him into the leadership group so theres definitely something they dont like about his leadership qualities.

Im not liking Cotch as skipper as he's far too much of an introvert, and Im worried about Vlas's 4 year course on social loafing...

Maybe Rance could be suited but Im worried about the religion thing, I dont think GAblett worked well trying to identify with the GC coke heads.
Maybe Lids, but no one else has that natural flair and confidence of leading people like Selwood or Hodge do.

Id look at targeting a captain through free agency to help change the culture, or maybe have multiple skippers, Lids/Cotch/Rance/Jack.

Hodge is a free agent and definitely should be targeted.

 

[TigermanM2]

Hodge is a free agent and definitely should be targeted.

 

[Achilles Heel]

Yeah and rance can't be vice cause he upset the playing group by calling them dumb footballers and having extra time off.

its interesting that Rance brought the rextra time off into his interview, if it was a no issue here he wouldn't have brought it up I wouldn't have thought, went out of his way to say the entire playing group sanctioned it.

As good as rance is in a group situation its one in all in you cant have different rules for different players, I'm not suggesting that it caused our playing disconnect, but hey anything is possible when you have 45 ego driven young men

 

[rfctigerarmy]

i'd prefer rance with martin vlastuin and riewolt as backup. mate of mine goes to TIV with riewolt reckons he's about as sharp as a billiard ball too

Hahahahaha.

Love this post. So ironic.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Im not sure Jack would be a good skipper, he gets too frustrated at times and speaks his mind rather than backing the plan, you never see Hodge or Selwood do that and its important for the captain to be on the same page as the coaches regardless of what they think.
The players dont even vote him into the leadership group so theres definitely something they dont like about his leadership qualities.

Im not liking Cotch as skipper as he's far too much of an introvert, and Im worried about Vlas's 4 year course on social loafing...

Maybe Rance could be suited but Im worried about the religion thing, I dont think GAblett worked well trying to identify with the GC coke heads.
Maybe Lids, but no one else has that natural flair and confidence of leading people like Selwood or Hodge do.

Id look at targeting a captain through free agency to help change the culture, or maybe have multiple skippers, Lids/Cotch/Rance/Jack.

Can we get away from the idea that introverts don't/can't make good leaders? pure rubbish

Agreed about Jack, however he has been rather level headed this year despite his poor goal kicking when a few years ago he would have chucked tantrums. So he has gotten better.

 

[guruisatiger]

Sure was on live video feed and news where have you been.[/QUOTE
Only listen to sbs chill. And 3aw sports tonight. And Johnny young on magic. Never watch the news

 

[guruisatiger]

Anyone suggesting Jack and/or Tross have absolutely no clue. Jack would be picked ahead of Tross, but ideally neither of them would get the role.

There's more to captaincy than what you see on the television screen.

If for whatever reason the captaincy is handed to someone else next season, which won't happen by the way, then it'll go to Lids (if he stays), Snip or Tigga.

Honourable mention to Dylan Grimes who I think could handle it well. He'll also be a good coach one day imo.

Who is snip

 

[guruisatiger]

Sure was on live video feed and news where have you been.

I listen to sbs chill no mention of it there. Didn't mention it on sports tonight on 3aw.
Don't watch the news

 

[iwantnecktatts]

Who is snip

Miles

 

[TheProwler]

I reckon he would make a great captain but he has some well deserved competition in Armitage. Also guts like Steven coming through his selection as captain might not be automatic

 

[guruisatiger]

Miles

OK cool

 

[TiggerMan22]

No. Who ever the players want as captain should be captain. That is Cotch so it will stay with Cotch

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Welcome back Cevap_Roll. Always nice to see those two Croatian beauties when scrolling through threads.

 

[mcuzzy]

Would've posted in here if I knew there was a thread.

Interesting how Lids reacted to Cornes saying that Tross should be captain.He scoffed at the suggestion and seemed annoyed, saying he doesn't agree whatsoever and that he doesn't remember seeing Cornes at any of their meetings. Said Trent is the man for the job and he won't be giving it up any time soon.

I'd have to completely agree. I assume everyone here would watch enough interviews and attend training/events often enough to know what the players are like. Players can be leaders without having a main leadership role, which is what Rance and Jack do well.

Love them both, but captaincy suggestions are bizarre.

Miles

Have heard him being mentioned as a potential future captain on more than one occasion, just can't remember which players or staff said it.

Would've thought Vlastuin would be next in line, which he may be, but he is stil quite young.

no way , the captain should be the players representative and the includes in discussion with the coach. robust and/or heated discussion between coach and captain is a good thing . having the coach pick the captain would often see the coach pick his lapdog. happens in lesser standard football often

Couldn't agree more. Used to hate juniors and ressies when the coach would pick the team captain, 90% of the time it was a choice that the majority didn't agree with.

 

[Snooza 100]

Jack is not in the leadership group for a reason he should not b our captain..