Marc Murphy vs Rhys Palmer

[murph#3]

not as interested in who will turn out the better player as i am in finding out a bit moe about palmer when compared to murphy.

obviously i know murphy's game pretty good, but i just want to find out a bit more about how he goes against murphy.

here's some areas of the game and who i rate better at those areas(bearing in mind i didn't see much of palmer as a junior as he's from WA), these are based on at the same stages of their careers:

kicking: murphy
fitness/aerobic capacity: palmer
agility: murphy
tackling: murphy
goal-kicking: par
speed: murphy
hardness: palmer
work rate: palmer
leadership: murphy
footy smarts: murphy
clearance work: murphy
ability to find ball: palmer

am i right in making most of these assumptions?

how would you rate them differently?

all constructive criticism is welcome.

 

[rgauci]

9 games 19 years 3 months

45 games 20 years 10 months

Give Rhys another year, especially when Headland and Hasleby are back in the team to establish his role. Too early to tell.

 

[Stakerz]

I might just add that when I watch Freo play the only reason is to watch Palmer, and his footy smarts are very good. Obviously footy smarts would be to find the ball, right?

I would take Palmer ahead of Murphy, could be bias

 

[murph#3]

I might just add that when I watch Freo play the only reason is to watch Palmer, and his footy smarts are very good. Obviously footy smarts would be to find the ball, right?

I would take Palmer ahead of Murphy, could be bias

lol fair enough, to every supporter who doesn't barrack for the big 4 this is what i have been trying to explain to a few of you over the last week. collingwood, richmond and essendon supporters even if their own team is not involved will look to vote against carlton (maybe subconsciously). anyway, that's not what this thread is about so let this be the end of that.

 

[murph#3]

9 games 19 years 3 months

45 games 20 years 10 months

Give Rhys another year, especially when Headland and Hasleby are back in the team to establish his role. Too early to tell.

that's ok i understand that and it's a credit to palmer that he's being compared against a 3rd year no.1 draft pick. the thing i'm trying to find out in this thread is what the differences between these two players i'm just trying to learn more about palmer as i've seen close to nothing of his junior career.

 

[DTHitman]

Murphy Just both will be top 8 midfielders in 3years

 

[murph#3]

both had ripper games today.

 

[hendo8888]

at this point in time
murphy by a fair bit
palmer vs murphy at equal times in the afl (where murphy was at after 11 games)
i'd go for palmer

 

[JKCeagle]

Murphy is probably a better player at the moment, not that that should be a surprise. As a neutral observer your categories seem pretty accurate, although maybe the winner in kicking should be "neither" right now

Also, new category -
Ability to handle a tag/close attention: Palmer. He's being worked over every week but is still playing a huge role in a midfield that is being beaten most games, yet Murphy clearly struggled with this last year. Now that he's third in line behind Judd & Stevens he is starting to become more influential.

 

[parrot]

Murph is moving into the AFL elite midfielder class now. What a talent.

 

[bluesforever]

Murph is moving into the AFL elite midfielder class now. What a talent.

Not bad is he

 

[murph#3]

Murphy is probably a better player at the moment, not that that should be a surprise. As a neutral observer your categories seem pretty accurate, although maybe the winner in kicking should be "neither" right now

Also, new category -
Ability to handle a tag/close attention: Palmer. He's being worked over every week but is still playing a huge role in a midfield that is being beaten most games, yet Murphy clearly struggled with this last year. Now that he's third in line behind Judd & Stevens he is starting to become more influential.

i think that would come under work rate.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Murphy at the moment based on his sublime skills. If Palmer can rectify his ineffective disposal he could be equally as good if not better.

 

[Chops_a_must]

He's basically our on field leader in his first year. Pretty mammoth effort. So, I'd rate his leadership higher.

But what his biggest asset is, is his work rate. Had very bad OP at 16, and has spent most of his time since strengthening his core.

Was also said to be one of the best gut runners ever to come through juniour ranks, and it shows in AFL even. Especially with his ability to take the number one tag.

Will see in coming years whether he becomes that Paul Kelly, Rob Harvey, Ben Cousins type pack horse that requires about 10 bullets in the head to kill.

Oh, and he is our number one clearance player. Not that that means much... but he is effectively carrying our midfield after 10 games.

 

[Jeremias]

He's basically our on field leader in his first year. Pretty mammoth effort. So, I'd rate his leadership higher.

Oh, and he is our number one clearance player. Not that that means much... but he is effectively carrying our midfield after 10 games.

He'll be a gun, there's no doubt about that.

However, I would say that the above reflects less about him, and more on the pathetic state of the Fremantle Football Club who show close to no leadership on the field whatsoever.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Murphy for mine. I'm just not sure about Palmer's kicking. He's an excellent prospect, though.

 

[I love DELEDIO]

Palmers kicking is shocking murphy's kicking is shocking I voted palmer coz he is a gun sorry Murphy i dont like you

 

[Top_4_Tiger]

Good poll, I'd probably pick Palmer but Murphy is currently better.

Palmer gets the nod purely because he has that gut-running work ethic to his game which is a good influence on those around him. Murphy is more talented.

 

[Philhawk]

not as interested in who will turn out the better player as i am in finding out a bit moe about palmer when compared to murphy.

obviously i know murphy's game pretty good, but i just want to find out a bit more about how he goes against murphy.

here's some areas of the game and who i rate better at those areas(bearing in mind i didn't see much of palmer as a junior as he's from WA):

kicking: murphy
fitness/aerobic capacity: palmer
agility: murphy
tackling: murphy
goal-kicking: par
speed: palmer??
hardness: palmer
work rate: palmer
leadership: murphy
footy smarts: murphy
clearance work: murphy
ability to find ball: palmer

am i right in making most of these assumptions?

how would you rate them differently?

all constructive criticism is welcome.

In terms of tackling, they'd be the same, but Palmer has the edge over Murphy in terms of clearances.

I guess it helps that he's the only quality midfielder in his team.

 

[W. Smithers]

I'd take Palmer, has better skills.

 

[Chops_a_must]

He'll be a gun, there's no doubt about that.

However, I would say that the above reflects less about him, and more on the pathetic state of the Fremantle Football Club who show close to no leadership on the field whatsoever.

I disagree. For a few reasons.

I don't remember Murphy being an on field captain when Carlton were doing so badly.

And it's a reflection on Rhys that he doesn't fall into the same traps as his team mates, when it comes to on field leadership. You can only do what you can in the context of the circumstances, and Rhys is doing exactly what is needed. You can't ask for much more than that.

 

[walkers a legend]

Im going to say Murph but i have liked Palmer before he became a AFL young gun so i have seen him dominate.

 

[Joey Bungle]

Murphy by a mile.
BOG Sunday & Palmer sucked in 4 of his 5 games playing when Freo were favourites.

 

[trumby]

palmer is definitely much more exciting atm than murphy was in his first year for sure

 

[eagledream]

forget for a second that i'm a biased eagles supporter but doesn't everyone else just shake their head and laugh at some of the comments parrot makes? Absoultely ridiculous some of the assertions that blokes makes. I'd be embarassed to be a blues supporter knowing that bloke followed the same side.