News New Sponsor PwC

[Boxx]

Are you seriously saying you've never heard of PwC?

I never have...

 

[Power Raid]

Thank you PWC

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Massive. Great work Kochie

 

[Sneeky]

PwC is a huge get, I worked there for for a few years in cybersecurity in the Adelaide office until 18 months ago. People associate it with accounting, but that would make up half of their Australian revenue. They do consulting in any field you could think of, as well as advisory and management of major projects in all fields also.

Glad to see this has come to fruition, and can’t definitely see them providing a lot of support and advisory work in all aspects of the club.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Anyone at Before the Bounce?

 

[Joelg]

Koch does photo ops with sponsors, apart from Gupta, he doesn't get them. Are you serious that you don't know what he does or are you being sarcastic?

Serious- is he doing a good job and what are “his” kpi’s

 

[Joelg]

Koch does photo ops with sponsors, apart from Gupta, he doesn't get them. Are you serious that you don't know what he does or are you being sarcastic?

REH you seem to be a corporate guy. What do you think of CEO performance in his 8 year tenure, all this focus on coach and none on the person in charge. We are in good shape? KT driving the business, making good decisions and being in charge?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

REH you seem to be a corporate guy. What do you think of CEO performance in his 8 year tenure, all this focus on coach and none on the person in charge. We are in good shape? KT driving the business, making good decisions and being in charge?

To understand bench marking us against other clubs,you have to remember we are a cyclic club - so when times are good on field we have to bank money to cover when we are bad on field and will run at a loss.

We will never be a West Coast, Collingwood, Hawthorn, Essendon bullet proof type club who can still make annual millions of dollar profits if they have 2 or 3 consecutive years in the bottom 4.

The SANFL stadium deal shackles saw us bank bugger all in 2001-05 years, or 2001-07 years, compared to Brisbane banking $6m. That meant we had nothing in the bank when the GFC hit and our poor on field years and it just made things worse. Brisbane were able to last a few more years before they hit rock bottom as a result.

KT and Koch have done a good job to stabilize us and we have been a break even club, with a fully funded footy program whilst we have been a mid table club ie 10-14 wins. But like Hinkley, I think they have run their race at getting us to the next level. China was always going to be a long play but they have spent too much time doing the community side of China rather than the big sponsorship side.

The opportunities are there but we have been slow getting a return on investment so far. The loss of a 2nd major sponsor was a disaster. The club have to take a gamble and get a decent GM Commercial - one who can get inside HQ of the big ASX 200 companies as well international firms, and a GM China - based in Shanghai or Hong Kong and let that person drive the China business deals not KT and others based in Adelaide.

I think the Gupta sponsorship has the potential to be a very successful long term sponsorship and partnership, because it links us up into a lot of things that have huge potential in the SA economy.

But on field seems to me to be making everything hard for the off field team. If we had won 16,18,18, and 17 home and away games like 2001-04 rather than 14,12,10, and 14 in 2014-17, as we are now unshackled compared to back then, we would be making hay, unlike 2001-04. Losing all those close games, especially at AO, every year since start of 2015, is hurting the off field running of the club.

Sometimes its a fine line, and its marginal gains, but its making up those marginal differences which can make a massive difference. You can lose a gold medal by a finger nail, a 1/100th of a second etc, but that might be the difference over a 20-40 year earning capacity of $5m, depending on what sport you won the silver in. That's the best way I can sum up our situation. We are working hard, getting close, but close enough doesn't bring you all the spoils of victory.

With the benefit of hindsight, our board and CEO has backed the wrong horse by backing in Hinkley to the hilt, and they are paying for it with their off field effort to drive the business side of the club.

We are a stable well run club doing ok. But we all want to be a great club. Some big changes have to happen for us to meet those goals.

 

[Power Raid]

To understand bench marking us against other clubs,you have to remember we are a cyclic club - so when times are good on field we have to bank money to cover when we are bad on field and will run at a loss.

We will never be a West Coast, Collingwood, Hawthorn, Essendon bullet proof type club who can still make annual millions of dollar profits if they have 2 or 3 consecutive years in the bottom 4.

The SANFL stadium deal shackles saw us bank bugger all in 2001-05 years, or 2001-07 years, compared to Brisbane banking $6m. That meant we had nothing in the bank when the GFC hit and our poor on field years and it just made things worse. Brisbane were able to last a few more years before they hit rock bottom as a result.

KT and Koch have done a good job to stabilize us and we have been a break even club, with a fully funded footy program whilst we have been a mid table club ie 10-14 wins. But like Hinkley, I think they have run their race at getting us to the next level. China was always going to be a long play but they have spent too much time doing the community side of China rather than the big sponsorship side.

The opportunities are there but we have been slow getting a return on investment so far. The loss of a 2nd major sponsor was a disaster. The club have to take a gamble and get a decent GM Commercial - one who can get inside HQ of the big ASX 200 companies as well international firms, and a GM China - based in Shanghai or Hong Kong and let that person drive the China business deals not KT and others based in Adelaide.

I think the Gupta sponsorship has the potential to be a very successful long term sponsorship and partnership, because it links us up into a lot of things that have huge potential in the SA economy.

But on field seems to me to be making everything hard for the off field team. If we had won 16,18,18, and 17 home and away games like 2001-04 rather than 14,12,10, and 14 in 2014-17, as we are now unshackled compared to back then, we would be making hay, unlike 2001-04. Losing all those close games, especially at AO, every year since start of 2015, is hurting the off field running of the club.

Sometimes its a fine line, and its marginal gains, but its making up those marginal differences which can make a massive difference. You can lose a gold medal by a finger nail, a 1/100th of a second etc, but that might be the difference over a 20-40 year earning capacity of $5m, depending on what sport you won the silver in. That's the best way I can sum up our situation. We are working hard, getting close, but close enough doesn't bring you all the spoils of victory.

With the benefit of hindsight, our board and CEO has backed the wrong horse by backing in Hinkley to the hilt, and they are paying for it with their off field effort to drive the business side of the club.

We are a stable well run club doing ok. But we all want to be a great club. Some big changes have to happen for us to meet those goals.

100%

From a distance, the club looks very well managed. Of course, they have done things wrong or could have done things different but that's life.

The coach re-appointment was a mistake, compounded by the recruitment of Watts, Motlop and Rockcliff. What they do about this, is probably a bigger measure of the board than making the mistake in the first place.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Adelaide Oval close games since 2015

2015
Win. Haw +8, Coll +3
Lose Adel -3, WCE -10
All games 10 pts or less margin 3W-5L

2016
Win.
Lose WB -3, WCE -8
All games 10 pts or less margin 0W-3L

2017
Win. StK 2
Lose WCE EF -2, WCE -10
All games 10 pts or less margin 1W-3L

2018
Win. Mel +10, Bris +5, Adel +5
Lose Adel -3, WCE -4
All games 10 pts or less margin 3W-4L

2019
Win.
Lose GWS -1, Rich -7
All games 10 pts or less margin 0W-2L

So that makes us 6w-10L at AO. Geelong at Kardinia Park would be something like 13W-3L. Our over all 10 pt margin games in that time is 7W-17L. Geelong are 65% in the close ones under Chris Scott so we would be 16W-8L if we matched Geelong, who are aided by a disproportion close wins at their home ground.

That's what I mean by we are close but not close enough. Turn a few of those results around and we make finals, we get bigger crowds, we earn more revenue, we can ask sponsors for a higher fee etc. It all becomes easier to manage and run the club.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Another article on it

Port Adelaide Sign Long-Term Landmark Agreement With PwC - Ministry of Sport

Port Adelaide Football Club has formalised a landmark sponsorship agreement with PwC at Adelaide […]

ministryofsport.com.au

 

[VineValerian]

Another article on it

Port Adelaide Sign Long-Term Landmark Agreement With PwC - Ministry of Sport

Port Adelaide Football Club has formalised a landmark sponsorship agreement with PwC at Adelaide […]

ministryofsport.com.au

This article talks about long term sponsorship, but I thought this was a one year trial period to test the water first.

Also talks about the dollars helping the club, whereas many of us surmised that this was more a means of ^opening doors" commercially elsewhere eg. China.

Would be interested to get the details of this clarified by the club.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Adelaide Oval close games since 2015

2015
Win. Haw +8, Coll +3
Lose Adel -3, WCE -10
All games 10 pts or less margin 3W-5L

2016
Win.
Lose WB -3, WCE -8
All games 10 pts or less margin 0W-3L

2017
Win. StK 2
Lose WCE EF -2, WCE -10
All games 10 pts or less margin 1W-3L

2018
Win. Mel +10, Bris +5, Adel +5
Lose Adel -3, WCE -4
All games 10 pts or less margin 3W-4L

2019
Win.
Lose GWS -1, Rich -7
All games 10 pts or less margin 0W-2L

So that makes us 6w-10L at AO. Geelong at Kardinia Park would be something like 13W-3L. Our over all 10 pt margin games in that time is 7W-17L. Geelong are 65% in the close ones under Chris Scott so we would be 16W-8L if we matched Geelong, who are aided by a disproportion close wins at their home ground.

That's what I mean by we are close but not close enough. Turn a few of those results around and we make finals, we get bigger crowds, we earn more revenue, we can ask sponsors for a higher fee etc. It all becomes easier to manage and run the club.

The trick is to try and win games not try not to lose them.

Even when we had all the play in the last quarter against GWS we still moved the ball forwards (or sideways or backwards) with a negative mindset.

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[Lockhart Road]

This article talks about long term sponsorship, but I thought this was a one year trial period to test the water first.

Also talks about the dollars helping the club, whereas many of us surmised that this was more a means of ^opening doors" commercially elsewhere eg. China.

Would be interested to get the details of this clarified by the club.

This is a very smart move by PwC Australia via their Adelaide practice.

One year - the year of PAFC’s 150th anniversary when there will be extra focus on the Club and its sponsors.

Well done whoever thought of this minimal hard-sell.

Once the foot is in the door ...

Now get on back to Cathay Pacific and do the same there.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

This is a very smart move by PwC Australia via their Adelaide practice.

One year - the year of PAFC’s 150th anniversary when there will be extra focus on the Club and its sponsors.

Well done whoever thought of this minimal hard-sell.

Once the foot is in the door ...

Now get on back to Cathay Pacific and do the same there.

Or it is a smart move by PwC to convince us to let them come in for a single year when we will get above average exposure at average rates and then piss off.

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[Lockhart Road]

Or it is a smart move by PwC to convince us to let them come in for a single year when we will get above average exposure at average rates and then p**s off.

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I didn’t specify where the smart move came from. It matters not. It matters that our commercial and partnerships people do not let this blue chip slip through their fumbling fingers like they did with Cathay Pacific et al.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Or it is a smart move by PwC to convince us to let them come in for a single year when we will get above average exposure at average rates and then p**s off.

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They are 2nd tiered sponsor so not sure what sort of billboard type exposure they get - as they aren't on the jumper or club/coaches/players polo top.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

As discussed in this thread this isn't the normal sort of sponsorship. As evidenced yesterday with Andrew Hunter, Chris Davies and Geoff Parker discussing the upcoming draft and what Port are doing with China to a group of Pwc clients yesterday.