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Mega Thread Nick Daicos - Can he be the GTWEB? Part 2

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Nick Daicos.

The Daicos Effect - 'The phenomenon where the whole of a club's hopes and dreams of success dramatically increase upon the arrival of a supremely talented youngster who shows poise and composure beyond his years thereby leading to real success' - J. Brown, 4th March 2024.

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We have never seen a player do what he has done in his first two seasons. Many people have said he was the best first/second year player since Chris Judd. Chris Judd didn't do what Nick Daicos has done in his first two seasons.

Injury causing him to miss the final four matches of the 2023 home and away season was the only thing that stood in the way of him sweeping every individual award on offer, though he still managed to finish top three in the Brownlow, AFLCA Coaches Award and AFLPA MVP, in only his second season.

He topped off his year to return from injury for the Preliminary and Grand Final, playing influential games in both matches to be rewarded with his first premiership for the club. Reflecting on the play that resulted in the De Goey goal that put Collingwood back in front in the late stages of that game, it is highly doubtful that Collingwood win the Grand Final without Nick Daicos doing what he does best.

Starting the 2024 season as the Brownlow Medal favourite, he was the shining light in a disappointing year for Collingwood, adding another string to his bow as an inside midfielder in the absence of injury hit teammates Mitchell and De Goey - winning the AFLCA Coaches Award and the Copeland Trophy, in addition to high finishes in both the Brownlow Medal (polling more votes than any other player in the history of the game had polled prior to 2024), and the AFLPA MVP.

We need to track his career progression as he pushes for GOAT status, and what better way to do that than through use of a spreadsheet:

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I have added the 'Fadgelow' in the above table - the player I believe is the best player in the competition across the full season (including finals). In 2023, I rated Daicos as #1 (ahead of Bontempelli), and 4th in 2024 (Behind Heeney, Neale - who stormed home with an incredible finals series - and Cripps).

I have also rated the top 50 players in the history on the AFL/VFL competition, based on what I have seen and read, and we'll tick each of these players off as Nick's careers surpasses them:

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I'm predicting it is a matter of when, not if, we're anointing Nick Daicos as the AFL GOAT. And quite possibly the Greatest There Will Ever Be (GTWEB).
 

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If he did have this level of performance in year 4 I'd take Juddy's first 4 years, and Buddy's too.

It's better for the team if others step up anyway though.
Good thing he has 21 games, plus hopefully finals, to come.

He'll get better as the season continues after a limited pre-season.

FYI - Judd received 15 Brownlow votes in his 4th season (and a Normy).
 
Good thing he has 21 games, plus hopefully finals, to come.

He'll get better as the season continues after a limited pre-season.

FYI - Judd received 15 Brownlow votes in his 4th season (and a Normy).
The winner only got 20 votes, those were different times with vote tallies.

5 votes off the Brownlow winner and finals MVP was still a very strong season, albeit not at the peak of 2004 or 2006.

I'm not a fan of using injuries and preparation issues as basically every champion works through those most years as they progress.
 

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I'm not a fan of using injuries and preparation issues as basically every champion works through those most years as they progress.
Agree.

But my point is he's only two games into the season, and he will undoubtedly improve as he gets conditioning in his legs.

He's still Brownlow favourite for a reason.

Judd's first two games of his 4th season - 12 and 19 possession games.
 
Agree.

But my point is he's only two games into the season, and he will undoubtedly improve as he gets conditioning in his legs.

He's still Brownlow favourite for a reason.

Judd's first two games of his 4th season - 12 and 19 possession games.
I did use an "if", not a "when" statement. ;)

My point was more that we've seen a few impressive starts, that did not match Daicos year 1-2 but may by 4-5.
 
Agree.

But my point is he's only two games into the season, and he will undoubtedly improve as he gets conditioning in his legs.

He's still Brownlow favourite for a reason.

Judd's first two games of his 4th season - 12 and 19 possession games.

Fadge, Judd won a brownlow in his 3rd year, rabbit has already missed that boat
 
Fadge, Judd won a brownlow in his 3rd year, GOATcos has already missed that boat
Arr0w - Judd had 42 Brownlow votes after 3 years, GOATcos 77.

The only reason GOATcos doesn't have 2 x Brownlows after his first 3 years is because he missed the last 3 games of 2023, and Cripps recorded more votes than anyone in history in 2024.
 
If he did have this level of performance in year 4 I'd take Juddy's first 4 years, and Buddy's too.
The thing is Juddy and Buddy are two of the greats and peaked at about this stage of their careers. If they had have improved from where they were at in year 4, they probably could have had their hand up as GOAT.

Nick will improve from here.
 

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Do we get a weekly brownlow update?
Last year the cramper was successfully tagged and ultimately subbed off before 3/4 time with 15 disposals. He received a Brownlow vote.

I didn't see yesterday's game, but he could get anything from zero to 3, such is the credibility of this sham award.
 
Last year the cramper was successfully tagged and ultimately subbed off before 3/4 time with 15 disposals. He received a Brownlow vote.

I didn't see yesterday's game, but he could get anything from zero to 3, such is the credibility of this sham award.
looks like your whole mob cramped when the whips were cracking. lol
 

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