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I love watching Kyrgios play generally and happy to see we have such a talented player but thought he was disrespectful to his opponent last night with the underarm / behind the back serves and between the legs shots yet commentators think it was ok??
 
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For those looking for a nostalgic trip into the good old days in Footscray, Romper Stomper, Russ and his whacky mates, on one of the Ch 10s tonight at 9.00
 

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One of my students from about 40 years ago is one of those "whacky mates". He was scary even back then!

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Just witnessed the ugly side of sport, brain dead.spectators and 2 K's not much better.
They should all be confined to the ZOO.

Give me Jelena / Cornet any day.
 
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Just witnessed the ugly side of sport, brain dead.spectators and 2 K's not much better.
They should all be confined to the ZOO.

Give me Jelena / Cornet any day.
Yeah, the cheering after a first fault p1sses me off. Wait until a point is complete to cheer or "barrack". I enjoy their actual tennis, but some of the rest is just disrespectful to opponents. Hope they don't cry wolf in o/s tournaments or Davis Cup when the shoe is on the other foot.
 
Kyrgios seems like a top bloke off the court, would be great to have a beer with. On the court though this guy sums up it perfectly:
 

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Kyrgios seems like a top bloke off the court, would be great to have a beer with. On the court though this guy sums up it perfectly:
Fair comment. Great showman and always good for a quote but will go down in tennis history as a wasted talent. He has all the tools but not of the application of Federer, Djokovic or Nadal.
 
Fair comment. Great showman and always good for a quote but will go down in tennis history as a wasted talent. He has all the tools but not of the application of Federer, Djokovic or Nadal.
Correct, although you have understated in that he isn’t even in the same stratosphere as those guys in terms of application and dedication to their craft. And you know what, Nick would be the first to say he doesn’t give a shit. He lives his life how he wants.
 
NZ guy Venus who played KKs in the last match? didn't hold back - said Kyrgios is a knob with the maturity of a 10 year old and that's harsh on 10 year olds - or something like that.

He seems to be better to me than he was a couple of years ago though
 
NZ guy Venus who played KKs in the last match? didn't hold back - said Kyrgios is a knob with the maturity of a 10 year old and that's harsh on 10 year olds - or something like that.

He seems to be better to me than he was a couple of years ago though

Agree Fossie, less boorish, but possibly off-set by Kokkinakis telling everyone to 'sink p1ss' before watching their games! As a long-time AO attendee, the last thing I want to see is a bunch of yobs taking up residence at Melbourne Park. Enjoy the tennis by all means, chant and support (while still respecting the nuances of the sport), but tennis is not 1970s cricket.
 

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In fairness, Kyrgios has said more than once when compared to Federer et al “I can’t be that guy”. In other words he accepts he’s never going to get the most out of his natural tennis talent. Rightly or wrongly.

I can relate to that.
Underachievement is something I excel at.

Makes you realise how much of the game is played in the head.

Anyway the Special Ks are through to an all-Australian final in the doubles. Good viewing and good for the game in my opinion.
 
Doubles suits them to a tee, Kokkinakis through no fault of his own (injuries) hasn't been able to have sustained singles success while Kyrigios does not have the work ethic for sustained success. Plus the physical toll on their bodies is so much less. Keep pocketing the couple hundred K for early singles exits and enjoy the ride!
 
Classic Nick bitching about one player making a noise while he was serving vs inciting the crowd to go crazy non stop while opponents are trying to serve :p
 
Ash Barty has played an unbelievable tournament so far. Hasn't dropped a set. Only dropped a service game once. She's only losing two games per set on average. Total domination.

I love watching her play. She's just so composed at all times, never seems to get flustered, is clutch when she needs to be. I think the psychological side of her game is worth marvelling at as much as her talent. She just seems to know what the correct shot is at any point in the rally and then executes to perfection. It's a highly entertaining style of play which is a nice change from the typical playstyle of hitting the ball as hard as you can every shot.
 
Ash Barty has played an unbelievable tournament so far. Hasn't dropped a set. Only dropped a service game once. She's only losing two games per set on average. Total domination.

I love watching her play. She's just so composed at all times, never seems to get flustered, is clutch when she needs to be. I think the psychological side of her game is worth marvelling at as much as her talent. She just seems to know what the correct shot is at any point in the rally and then executes to perfection. It's a highly entertaining style of play which is a nice change from the typical playstyle of hitting the ball as hard as you can every shot.

This bloke, I believe, has had a lot to do with Ash's mindset:


 
Ash Barty has played an unbelievable tournament so far. Hasn't dropped a set. Only dropped a service game once. She's only losing two games per set on average. Total domination.

I love watching her play. She's just so composed at all times, never seems to get flustered, is clutch when she needs to be. I think the psychological side of her game is worth marvelling at as much as her talent. She just seems to know what the correct shot is at any point in the rally and then executes to perfection. It's a highly entertaining style of play which is a nice change from the typical playstyle of hitting the ball as hard as you can every shot.
Danielle Collins was super-impressive tonight. She destroyed 7th seed Swiatek. If anyone can beat Barty it's her. In fact the last time they met that's exactly what she did.

Mentally strong, mature (28), powerful, aggressive and very intense on court.

That said I'm still expecting - and hoping - Barty will win. She has set herself for this for most of the last year. It's the one she wants most. For Collins it's her first ever Grand Slam final and surely she couldn't produce two matches in a row like the one she played tonight? Barty, we know, can peel off those high standard matches with amazing regularity.

The biggest risk is that she wants the Australian Open title just a little too much and might tense up a bit ... but that's not normally her style. Should be a great final and could go to three sets.

I bet nobody here knows (without looking it up) who was the last Australian to win the AO Women's Singles. It happened before most of you were born.
 

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So its been revealed that Netflix cameras have been following around players during this Aus Open, including Kokkinakis and Kyrigios. They also just happened to be in the locker room when they were confronted the other day.
 
Danielle Collins was super-impressive tonight. She destroyed 7th seed Swiatek. If anyone can beat Barty it's her. In fact the last time they met that's exactly what she did.

Mentally strong, mature (28), powerful, aggressive and very intense on court.

That said I'm still expecting - and hoping - Barty will win. She has set herself for this for most of the last year. It's the one she wants most. For Collins it's her first ever Grand Slam final and surely she couldn't produce two matches in a row like the one she played tonight? Barty, we know, can peel off those high standard matches with amazing regularity.

The biggest risk is that she wants the Australian Open title just a little too much and might tense up a bit ... but that's not normally her style. Should be a great final and could go to three sets.

I bet nobody here knows (without looking it up) who was the last Australian to win the AO Women's Singles. It happened before most of you were born.
I knew it was Chris O'Neill, but I was, and still am, a a massive tennis fan (nerd)! Back in the 70s/early 80s we used to struggle to get many top players to the Aus Open, so I am a little too familiar with Eddo, Rod Frawley, Brad Drewett, Wendy Turnbull, Di Fromholtz, Kerrie Melville, Phil Dent. I even considered Kiwi Chris Lewis an honorary Aussie in those days. Vilas and Kriek were foreign players I enjoyed watching, but my mates and I thought Connors a brash Yank - little did we know who was waiting in the wings to take his place! Plus the teenager in me enjoyed watching Bettina Bunge, Claudia Kohde-Kilsch and their ilk - for their tennis skill of course!

As a teenager, I wanted to be Newk, as my junior coach said I had a similar serve and volley - these days I occasionally have the 'tache but the serve and volley are not what they were! I also wanted to be Rod Frawley as he took it up to McEnroe at times in verbal stoushes and gamesmanship! My mates and I used to love Eddo too, he looked like he wandered onto centre court from a local tennis club - there were so many older blokes at our tennis club that looked like Eddo! Plus he actually dropped the trophy when he won the Aus Open, and it broke! Ah, the 70s - good for cricket, not bad for tennis, but only 2 elim final losses in the footy... :(
 
For anyone that is too young to know who Mark Edmonson (aka Eddo) is, this is a great read about his win in 76, beat (an ageing) Rosewall in the semi, and Newk in the final, only weeks after working as a cleaner at a hospital! (I've quoted the first part, but the whole thing is a quick read to give an insight to a larrikin who was briefly a hero as well.)


On the night he beat Ken Rosewall to reach the final of the 1976 Australian Open, Mark Edmondson took the tram home, just like all the fans leaving the Kooyong Lawn Tennis Club.

His girlfriend, Vicki, now his wife, still recalls the blunt commentary from one of their fellow straphangers: “ ‘Nice job beating Ken,’ the one bloke said, ‘but you won’t have much of a chance to beat Newky in the final, will you?’ ”

Edmondson, who was ranked No. 212 at the time and had been mopping floors at a hospital just weeks before, seized his opportunity, beating John Newcombe in the final. Thirty-five years later, he remains the lowest-ranked men’s player to win a major and the last native son to win the Australian Open, which begins Monday in Melbourne.

In 1976, the Australian Open was still considered the forgotten major, widely ignored in North America and Europe and often skipped by the world’s elite non-Australian players. Few foreign stars wanted to travel around the world to play in a tournament that started the day after Christmas and offered a first prize of only $7,500.

Perhaps even more daunting than the long flight, low pay and holiday schedule were the Australians themselves. In the 35 tournaments before Edmondson’s victory, Australian men had taken the trophy 30 times and finished second the other five years.

In a country filled with tennis legends, Edmondson was an unlikely hero. Weeks before the event, he was working odd jobs to save money to travel on the circuit the next year.

“My sister was a nurse at the time, and she said, ‘We’re always looking for cleaners and window washers at the hospital,’ ” Edmondson said in a phone interview from his home near Sydney. “I was doing some floor polishing and window cleaning, but then like seven days into it, I got the call from Tennis Australia.”

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Drooping the 1976 Aus Open trophy!
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For anyone that is too young to know who Mark Edmonson (aka Eddo) is, this is a great read about his win in 76, beat (an ageing) Rosewall in the semi, and Newk in the final, only weeks after working as a cleaner at a hospital! (I've quoted the first part, but the whole thing is a quick read to give an insight to a larrikin who was briefly a hero as well.)


On the night he beat Ken Rosewall to reach the final of the 1976 Australian Open, Mark Edmondson took the tram home, just like all the fans leaving the Kooyong Lawn Tennis Club.

His girlfriend, Vicki, now his wife, still recalls the blunt commentary from one of their fellow straphangers: “ ‘Nice job beating Ken,’ the one bloke said, ‘but you won’t have much of a chance to beat Newky in the final, will you?’ ”

Edmondson, who was ranked No. 212 at the time and had been mopping floors at a hospital just weeks before, seized his opportunity, beating John Newcombe in the final. Thirty-five years later, he remains the lowest-ranked men’s player to win a major and the last native son to win the Australian Open, which begins Monday in Melbourne.

In 1976, the Australian Open was still considered the forgotten major, widely ignored in North America and Europe and often skipped by the world’s elite non-Australian players. Few foreign stars wanted to travel around the world to play in a tournament that started the day after Christmas and offered a first prize of only $7,500.

Perhaps even more daunting than the long flight, low pay and holiday schedule were the Australians themselves. In the 35 tournaments before Edmondson’s victory, Australian men had taken the trophy 30 times and finished second the other five years.

In a country filled with tennis legends, Edmondson was an unlikely hero. Weeks before the event, he was working odd jobs to save money to travel on the circuit the next year.

“My sister was a nurse at the time, and she said, ‘We’re always looking for cleaners and window washers at the hospital,’ ” Edmondson said in a phone interview from his home near Sydney. “I was doing some floor polishing and window cleaning, but then like seven days into it, I got the call from Tennis Australia.”

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Drooping the 1976 Aus Open trophy!
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I think the year Eddo won was the first to capture my imagination and got me into playing, not that I was ever much good at it. Newk was my fave. How about Roscoe Tanner? Loved the guys with the huge serves. There was one american, coloured guy, who had a big serve and his opponent [getting a bit over all the aces] asked him which way he was going to hit it on his next shot. He kindly told him but still aced him anyway :p
 
I think the year Eddo won was the first to capture my imagination and got me into playing, not that I was ever much good at it. Newk was my fave. How about Roscoe Tanner? Loved the guys with the huge serves. There was one american, coloured guy, who had a big serve and his opponent [getting a bit over all the aces] asked him which way he was going to hit it on his next shot. He kindly told him but still aced him anyway :p
Yeah, was a fan of Tanner, and Gerulaitis came out often in the Kooyong days as well, and Nastase. Were you thinking of Arthur Ashe?
Amongst the o/s women, Navratilova and Evert started coming out, probably due to their rivalry, then Mandlikova came along (and was briefly 'Aussie Hana'). Luckily Cash and the double Macs emerged at the right time, and Masur, Fitzy, etc as the Open moved to then Flinders Park, and the o/s big guns like McEnroe, Lendl, Wilander, Edberg, etc started the ball rolling, but only after they moved the Aus Open from Dec to Jan, mainly to accommodate those same o/s players. Hasn't looked back, but I still fondly remember days cooking in the sun at Kooyong! :D
 
Yeah, was a fan of Tanner, and Gerulaitis came out often in the Kooyong days as well, and Nastase. Were you thinking of Arthur Ashe?
Amongst the o/s women, Navratilova and Evert started coming out, probably due to their rivalry, then Mandlikova came along (and was briefly 'Aussie Hana'). Luckily Cash and the double Macs emerged at the right time, and Masur, Fitzy, etc as the Open moved to then Flinders Park, and the o/s big guns like McEnroe, Lendl, Wilander, Edberg, etc started the ball rolling, but only after they moved the Aus Open from Dec to Jan, mainly to accommodate those same o/s players. Hasn't looked back, but I still fondly remember days cooking in the sun at Kooyong! :D
No not Ashe, he had more of a delicate style :) Loved the way Pat Cash and Pat Rafter played too
 

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