Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVII

[mike14]

It could interesting if it becomes political.

True, but I'm not sure there's much political mileage in it for either major party.
A sternly worded statement that it's a practice that needs to stop, with a threat of withdrawing funding, and that's about as far as it goes. Maybe some extra $$ for oversight if someone is feeling frisky

 

[jmoo wan]

This is the crux of it now given the AFL have come out saying what's reported is their medical model.

excellent - they are sweeping it on top of the carpet

 

[Squeaky]

excellent - they are sweeping it on top of the carpet

Sweep up, stupid!

 

[Vindicater]

Edmund is doing a great stenography job here.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

I was all ready to get mad at another AFL cover up but their response actually does track with their recreational drug policy which is based on a education/harm minimisation approach.
a) they do testing outside of game day for recreational drugs, I believe this is not a WADA requirement
b) because of this additional testing they have an agreement with AFLPA to protect player identity
c) I could be wrong but isnt the club doctor one of the few people at clubs who is provided details of positive tests. How else do you explain a player mysteriously having a few weeks off?

Whether you agree or disagree with the policy is another discussion.

 

[ghostdog]

I was all ready to get mad at another AFL cover up but their response actually does track with their recreational drug policy which is based on a education/harm minimisation approach.
a) they do testing outside of game day for recreational drugs, I believe this is not a WADA requirement
b) because of this additional testing they have an agreement with AFLPA to protect player identity
c) I could be wrong but isnt the club doctor one of the few people at clubs who is provided details of positive tests. How else do you explain a player mysteriously having a few weeks off?

Whether you agree or disagree with the policy is another discussion.

Maybe so, but the concept of harm minimisation is up for discussion if you believe Bartlett's contention that he was moved on in order to silence him.

He says he had an agenda to put the broom through his club on this issue. If they moved him on as a result, I don't see how that supports the notion of harm minimisation.

 

[Zach Package]

Edmund is doing a great stenography job here.

Been handed a career defining story on a platter and he’s perfectly content to be a lap dog and ensure his bread still gets buttered.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Maybe so, but the concept of harm minimisation is up for discussion if you believe Bartlett's contention that he was moved on in order to silence him.

He says he had an agenda to put the broom through his club on this issue. If they moved him on as a result, I don't see how that supports the notion of harm minimisation.

I think for me there are two different issues at the Dees, the issue re players taking drugs I agree with the policy as it stand and think the allegations re players having "fake injuries" after positive tests outside WADA requirements is in line with that policy.
Personal opinion but i think you would have to have your head in sand to think blokes in their 20s arent dabbling, and I think education is a better approach than zero tolerance (as long as its in line with WADA guidance.).
The other issue re Bartlett's concern about the culture at coaching level/Board level is another story altogether, definitely think the AFL needs to be scrutinised more for their part in the moves made against him. Also another example of the hypocrisy/PR strategy at AFL house (but we knew this already )

 

[sameolds33]

My understanding is that Andrew Wilkie is not overly concerned about individual players taking drugs and whether that is condoned/not condoned by the AFL. He's concerned with the impact that faking injuries has on gambling odds and the AFL's involvement in manipulating the odds by conductng these tests and then telling players to fake injuries. Wilkie is anti-gambling.

 

[doug85]

Doedee has gone down with a partial tear to the recently repaired ACL. That is terrible luck

 

[Zach Package]

My understanding is that Andrew Wilkie is not overly concerned about individual players taking drugs and whether that is condoned/not condoned by the AFL. He's concerned with the impact that faking injuries has on gambling odds and the AFL's involvement in manipulating the odds by conductng these tests and then telling players to fake injuries. Wilkie is anti-gambling.

Yep, his angle is that and the fact that the AFL receive eye watering gov funding and indirect gov funding through capitol works such as the Tassie stadium and the Gabba redevelopment before that got scuppered.

A fair enough angle to take and hopefully a way to get some traction for him.

 

[DERO]

I am dying for some Caroline Wilson

 

[mike ross]

I am dying for some Caroline Wilson

Here you go bro

 

[Pweter]

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Here you go bro

 

[jmoo wan]

Doedee has gone down with a partial tear to the recently repaired ACL. That is terrible luck

have you been reading this thread? He's probably just planning on going on a massive bender.

 

[DERO]

Who could forget the emotive, hyperbolic articles fed by the AfL PR team on the way to win a Walkley.

I’d love to see some balance but I doubt we’ll get it.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

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Here you go bro

"Thanks Dewo"

 

[Vindicater]

Peter Wright pleading guilty starting to make abit more sense.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

have you been reading this thread? He's probably just planning on going on a massive bender.

Takes one to know one I guess

 

[Zach Package]

Incredible headline

 

[dank420_]

Bellchambers could have played 500 games

 

[Zach Package]

Bellchambers could have played 500 games

Or not played 500 games

 

[mcgrath_truther]

the way i see it is that it’s just business for the AFL. they want their brand as family friendly & as profitable as possible. id have to wonder how much our drug saga influenced their decision to make off the book stuff common place

 

[sameolds33]

Yep, his angle is that and the fact that the AFL receive eye watering gov funding and indirect gov funding through capitol works such as the Tassie stadium and the Gabba redevelopment before that got scuppered.

A fair enough angle to take and hopefully a way to get some traction for him.

He's also been anti-pokies for a long time so presumably is also aware of the way that AFL clubs make money from that revenue stream.

 

[fairbump_playon]

I missed this gold in Wilkie's statement last night

"...because right now Deputy Speaker the term white line fever has taken on a different and sinister meaning at the AFL"

LOL go Andrew