Our most important player 2010?

[lunacy]

I was reading the Collingwood board and they have this thread on there.

1. Tippett - No one can play his role as good as him. A powerhouse.
2. Bock - Is our best defender and structurely makes a massive difference. We are such a better team with him there.
3. Vince - inside and outside mid. Cant afford to lose a gun midifelder.
4. Porps/Johncock - very important either end of ground.

 

[BigSledge]

Even though Stevens is reasonable cover I would argue that Bock is our most important player along with Rutten. It sets up our spine and Bock is so devastating on the rebound which we really missed in the big game against Collingwood last year.

 

[subaru]

Bock - especially now that Otten is out.

 

[Vader]

1. Tippett - outstanding player in his own right and gives our forward line the structure it's been missing for a decade.
2. Vince - our best midfielder by a country mile
3. Bock - comprehensively pantses all his opponents and generates drive off the half back line.

 

[Pheasant Plucker]

I'd say Bock comfortably. Tippett is an exceptional prospect but the reality is if he goes down we actually have other players to step in and fill the goalkicking void. When the chicken man is taken out of our backline we look vulnerable, lose a ridiculous amount of rebound and can be stretched by teams with 2 or more quick talls.

When he's fit Bock is our best KP player and comfortably in the top 5 KP players in the AFL.

 

[WALL-e]

Bock
Tippett
Thommo
StiffOne
Vince

 

[Thumpy]

I'd have to say Tippett. He is the focal point of our forward line and without him our forward line would look weaker on paper. He's very capable of kicking a bag of goals, something we've been lacking from a tall for a long time.

Bock is also important to our structure but we showed last year that we can survive without him. Having said that, it would be a big loss to have him on the sidelines for a lengthy peroid of time. I still believe we could have won the semi final had we had Bock there.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

I'd say Bock comfortably. Tippett is an exceptional prospect but the reality is if he goes down we actually have other players to step in and fill the goalkicking void.

Not so sure about that.

There is no-one else who would be able to compete like Tippett as a forward but can also make a huge difference to overall effectiveness of our rucking department. Perhaps McKernan may one day but obviously not to Tippett's level in 2010.

But you're comments re Bock are correct. Easily our best and most versatile tall defender.

The other member of the holy trinity would go to a midfielder. Probably due to his skill level Vince may just shade Thompson by a whisker based on last year but i tell you what, when Thompson is down the Crows are also down...extremely underrated for the impact he has. Perhaps because of his output over a much longer time, I'll go Thompson for 3rd.

Also, i always feel vulnerable if an opposition has more than 1 quality small/mid forward. Would have to rate Johncock very highly in terms of importance.

So I'll go:

1. Tippett
2. Thompson
3. Bock
4. Vince
5. Johncock

 

[Cap]

Imo the most important player is Bernie Vince. Danger is the up and comer of the group and Scotty Thompson is probably the gauge of the team, Vince is so far the best player we have capable of playing good footy whilst taking a strong tag. If he gets the tag every week, it leaves Thompson to be soft tagged or not tagged at all which gives us a more attacking look because whilst Vince will end up out best midfield Thompson when on song is the slightly more destructive player, by that I mean he is probably more capable of a 10 minute burst in which he picks up 10 touches and kicks a couple of goals. Vince is more your 4 qtr gut busting effort player (but that’s just my opinion) he will end up with 30 touches and 2 goals but just in a different manner (that’s not to say he isn’t capable of a game turning 10 minute burst I just think you’ll see it more often from Scotty)

We also don’t want to see Dangerfield tagged early in the season, this could be seen as a compliment and will eventually make him a better player (we hope) it’s not going to help our midfield and it will be great to see Dangerfield, MacKay and VB doing their thing with Vince taking the tagger.

Other than that Maric is probably our other most important player, he is the lead ruckman and we need him to get us first use of the ball.Bock and Doughty speak for themselves, our most important backman and our most senior go to man.With Tippet also fairly obvious.


So in Order
Vince
Maric (Moran or Griffin)
Tippett
Bock
Doughty.

 

[amer]

Bock - Our defensive unit is structured around him
Tippett - Our forward line is structured around him
Vince - Our most damaging midfielder

Cap - Doughty? Really? Controversial one that to say the least.

 

[Huntercrow]

Bock was the best and most important player to us in previous years. Last year we were able to cover for him. Although it would have been important to have him play finals, his injury was not why we lost to Collingwood.

With the player depth that we will have in the coming season I believe any player can be covered without losing too much from our 22- To an extent.

In previous years, injuries to Bock, Tippet, Vince would have been devastating to our chances but not so much now.

The hardest to replace from the big 3 would be Vince.

Bock would be less difficult. but due to losing Otto not much less.

Tippet The supporters would miss the most (so would I), but could be covered due to our forward line depth in the squad.

You could throw in Moran as our rucks are comparatively weak, we lose him and Maric is pretty much alone.

 

[Cap]

Bock - Our defensive unit is structured around him
Tippett - Our forward line is structured around him
Vince - Our most damaging midfielder

Cap - Doughty? Really? Controversial one that to say the least.

Maybe, but I reckon a lot of people with secretly agree with me.
The guy is clearly Craig’s senior “go to guy” outside the “big 3” Doughty is the youngest of the old leaders, while maligned for being a plodder he has made doing the hard work his thing and is generally the one getting dirty when the games are turning pear shaped for the team.

I’m not saying he is the most talented, I’m just saying he has become extremely important to us.

 

[Tex200]

I think one of the great anomilies of AFL analisys is that we are constantly fed that the game is won or lost in the midfield and yet, when the experts look at most important players its generally kpp's that are nominated.

Its hard because obviously each of these 2 catergories relies on the other for success.

Of our midfield no question that B Vince is our most important player and complete player...he does it all...in side, outside, run and carry, long kick, goals..you name it Bernie can do it.

Of our kpp's once again to my mind there is a clear stand out in N Bock. I would like to know (if anyone has the time and inclination) the win/loss % when he does play as against when he does not. I have no evidence but it just feels like we lose more when he is out.

 

[cmndstab]

I'd say the top 3 is practically beyond dispute (though the order of them could be questioned). Tippett, Bock, and either Vince or Thompson (whoever picks up the tag, I'm tipping Vince) are our three most important players by an absolute mile.


I'm tempted to say Vince. Bock is super important for his drive and ability to stop athletic talls, and Tippett is an absolute enigma, but neither of them can do their job if the midfield gets run over. Vince's ability to deal with a tag will become vital to us, because if he continues to be a dangerous player despite the tag he will keep getting the tag and the likes of Thompson, Edwards, Dangerfield, etc should be allowed to run relatively free.

 

[magtrev]

D-Mac.

Just cos I said so.

 

[spexau]

With everyone worrying about Vince being tagged you have to remember that an opposing team can't hard-tag Vince, Thompson, Mackay, Dangerfield or who ever else rotates through the middle. Bernie will be fine. He showed in the finals last year he is a big game player and he will step up to the task week in week out.

Definately Tippett, Bock, Vince and Thompson are our most important players.

 

[Cap]

With everyone worrying about Vince being tagged you have to remember that an opposing team can't hard-tag Vince, Thompson, Mackay, Dangerfield or who ever else rotates through the middle. Bernie will be fine. He showed in the finals last year he is a big game player and he will step up to the task week in week out.

Definately Tippett, Bock, Vince and Thompson are our most important players.

I'm not worried, He is the best in the team at taking a tag.

 

[spexau]

I'm not worried, He is the best in the team at taking a tag.

Well maybe everyone was a stretch but there has been a bit of fluff around here lately with him coping with a tag. I'm with you though, I saw how he dealt with the heavy handed tactics used by the Bombers in the EF last year. Also saw how he performed in that game too..

 

[craig crowing]

Tippett - Tippett this guy is going to be a monster up forward and pinch hit in ruck .
He is going to be huge for us and the major reason we could play in grand final.
We just have to be sure we give him room and get him 1 on 1 as much as possible.
This guy is the next Wayne Carey domination without the attitude , arrogance etc etc etc.
What he done it that losing final gives you a glimpse how good this guy will be.
Thompson
Vince
Bock
Are the next 3 of course. Also as another poster said ,to get to the top we need a ruckman to become a important player.
I expect Mackay to become a major factor in route to the top next year with his run and penetration.
The Porps and Knights are important to keep pressure on the score board as well.

 

[PCORF]

#44 Bock is our most important player.

 

[Paladin]

Chris Knights.

When did we start to kick ass last year? When knighta started kicking 3 goals from 60+ every week. No doubt we would of beaten Collingwood if he didn't get injured

 

[WALL-e]

Knighta, how could I forget you.

How easy is it to just love this guy.

 

[Weekend of Bernie]

The 22nd player is the most important. The weakest link allows others to exploit the weakness. We need a whole team effort.

Does the question mean "Who will be our best player in 2010?", or, "Which player can we least do without?"

 

[Drummond]

Don't people watch the Crows? Didn't people watch the Semi Final?

Chris Knights.

 

[WALL-e]

If the 9 point rule was enforced, would Knights become the most dangerous player in the AFL....

Anyone have a stat on his goals from outside 50?