Analysis Pick 1: Jason Horne-Francis vs rest of the field

[RossHenshaw]

We're making a mistake on this one......we should be getting Callaghan.

 

[Ligma]

We're making a mistake on this one......we should be getting Callaghan.

 

[Mr north man]

You doing an Advent calendar?


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Love to name him now as he could be used as the poster boy the new white hope to get members signed on.

 

[BoomerRoo]

We're making a mistake on this one......we should be getting Callaghan.

Don't be a Karen

 

[archerboy]

We're making a mistake on this one......we should be getting Callaghan.

Can you explain your thoughts why?

 

[Dan]

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Don't be a Karen

People laughed at me when I mentioned Worpel's name in the 17 Draft.

Callaghan is the way.

 

[Ligma]

People laughed at me when I mentioned Worpel's name in the 17 Draft.

Callaghan is the way.

Okay?? And??? Do you want a cookie or something??

 

[Dan]

Okay?? And??? Do you want a cookie or something??

Not necessary.

We should look heavily into drafting Howard too.....with our 2nd or 3rd pick.

 

[rickety]

Not necessary.

We should look heavily into drafting Howard too.....with our 2nd or 3rd pick.

Who is this Howard fellow?

 

[Nutjob]

People laughed at me when I mentioned Worpel's name in the 17 Draft.

Callaghan is the way.

Which pick did you want to use on Worpel? Worpel is a limited player in my opinion and what we see now is basically the best we will get. Not too dissimilar to Powell-Pepper.


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[Shermanator]

We're making a mistake on this one......we should be getting Callaghan.

 

[Dan]

Who is this Howard fellow?

Howard you like to suck my balls...

Spoiler

 

[rickety]

Howard you like to suck my balls...

Spoiler

No thank you Daniel, seems you're as funny as the dill in charge of the State.

 

[Tas]

People laughed at me when I mentioned Worpel's name in the 17 Draft.

Callaghan is the way.

Do you get laughed at a lot? :stern look

Callaghan is in the top 5 or so, it is not really going out on a limb.

As to which players make it and which don't, I think anyone who thinks they can tell who is or not is deluding themselves, there is nobody in the industry that has got remotely close to being able to predict it and there is no real science to it, for whatever reason it clicks for some and not for others. You can pick anyone out of a hat and say they are going to be the best in the pool, but on what basis someone makes that prediction is either cause to give interest or cause to be laughed at. Watching some youtube highlights isn't going to give you the information to make an educated guess. If it was that easy, clubs wouldn't * it up so frequently.

I think people just need to be realistic. We kind of remember the calls we get right but tend to forget the ones we didn't.

 

[Ligma]

Do you get laughed at a lot? :stern look

Callaghan is in the top 5 or so, it is not really going out on a limb.

As to which players make it and which don't, I think anyone who thinks they can tell who is or not is deluding themselves, there is nobody in the industry that has got remotely close to being able to predict it and there is no real science to it, for whatever reason it clicks for some and not for others. You can pick anyone out of a hat and say they are going to be the best in the pool, but on what basis someone makes that prediction is either cause to give interest or cause to be laughed at. Watching some youtube highlights isn't going to give you the information to make an educated guess. If it was that easy, clubs wouldn't fu** it up so frequently.

I think people just need to be realistic. We kind of remember the calls we get right but tend to forget the ones we didn't.

Tas bestie u have to remember when the people do watch a 1 min YouTube clip they are awarded with a bachelor of AFL Talent Scoutology majoring in youtubeology

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Howard you like to suck my balls...

Spoiler

Ligma

Another one stealing your schtick.

 

[pupstar]

Which pick did you want to use on Worpel? Worpel is a limited player in my opinion and what we see now is basically the best we will get. Not too dissimilar to Powell-Pepper.


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Averaged 22 disposals plenty of tackles a game last year and was played out of position all year. I reckon he goes alright.

 

[shinboner magic]

Dan be happy we’re getting someone that starts with the letter J.

 

[Ligma]

Ligma

Another one stealing your schtick.

I saw that…… ugh #trendsetter

 

[The Dingrel]

#1 picks that had much fanfare imo:

Josh Fraser. Was getting written up for 2-3 years prior as this new age of amazing player. That was before he was even attached to a Collingwood selection.

Luke Ball. Was getting lots of writeups, his family connections to Hawthorn were spruiked as was his intellect. Only trouble was hawks didn't take him.

Adam Cooney. Got a bit of press, Sheedy was hanging around watching him testing like some lolly carrying trenchcoat wearer. Pretty sure * did their obligatory sh*t trade attempt (probably offered the dogs a 51yo Paul Van Der Haar) to try and get the pick off them.

Bryce Gibbs. Another one getting written up for 2 years leading in the draft and a BFNAAK as a bonus.

Matthew Kreuzer. Kreuzer Cup as above.

Christian Petracca. Unanimous #1 pick leading into the draft. I remember a saints mate wondering if he seemed a bit too arrogant and it was a fair question. In the end, not a problem they had to deal with.

Cameron Rayner. Lower level of fapping but definitely caught the tailwind of the 2017 Dusty train which lifted his rating a bit.

Yeah on Rayner though, there were a lot of question marks over his Tank. IIRC were some calls for LDU at #1, my Lions mates were certainly on the LDU bandwagon!!! Was a fair bit of hype over Slevo too until his heart condition surfaced. Funny how things turned out in that we have LDU, Slevo, and Bonar all high picks from that year.

 

[Gasometer]

It may have been said already in the past week but No 18 is free now

 

[The Dingrel]

Can you explain your thoughts why?

Yes, go ahead, I doubt it will make my day.

 

[Nutjob]

Averaged 22 disposals plenty of tackles a game last year and was played out of position all year. I reckon he goes alright.

If he was played out of position in a poor rebuilding side there is a reason for that. I’m not saying he isn’t any good, but I think he is limited going forward.

He wouldn’t start in our starting midfield and we just won the wooden spoon.


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[ferball]

Did a quick side by side comparison of Twomey and our own Souup, I put the tiers in brackets next to the player.

As you'd expect some rated similarly and others very differently. Love to understand more on each of those as to what they see/don't see etc.

I'm preparing to play draft bingo on Nov 24. I think I'll probably play Souup's card!

	Twomey	Souup
1	Nick Daicos	1 - Jason Horne
2	Jason Horne	2 - Finn Callaghan (T2)
3	Sam Darcy	3 - Josh Goater
4	Finn Callaghan	4 - Nick Daicos
5	Ben Hobbs	5 - Josh Sinn
6	Josh Ward	6 - Neil Erasmus
7	Josh Gibcus	7 - Josh Gibcus
8	Josh Rachele	8 - Mac Andrew
9	Mac Andrew	9 - Sam Darcy
10	Neil Erasmus	10 - Darcy Wilmot (T3)
11	Jye Amiss	11 - Josh Rachele
12	Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera	12 - Matthew Johnson
13	Josh Sinn	13 - Jacob Van Rooyen
14	Matthew Johnson	14 - Ben Hobbs
15	Arlo Draper	15 - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
16	Tyler Sonsie	16 - Tom Brown
17	Josh Goater	17 - Jye Amiss
18	Sam Butler	18 - Josh Ward (T4)
19	Darcy Wilmot	19 - Paul Curtis
20	Jesse Motlop	20 - Matt Roberts
21	Jacob Van Rooyen	21 - Tyler Sonsie
22	Campbell Chesser	22 - Jack Williams
23	Tom Brown	23 - Zac Taylor
24	Toby Conway	24 - Arlo Draper
25	Zac Taylor	25 - Leek Aleer
26	Josh Fahey	26 - Campbell Chesser (T5)
27	Matthew Roberts	27 - Rhett Bazzo
28	Blake Howes	28 - Judson Clarke
29	Marcus Windhager	29 - Lewis Rayson
30	Michito Owens	30 - Ned Long
31	Connor MacDonald	31 - Mitch Knevitt
32	Mitch Knevett	32 - Jai Serong (T6)
33	Rhett Bazzo	33 - Hugh Jackson
34	Jack Williams	34 - Blake Howes
35	Judson Clarke	35 - Sam Butler
		36 - Arthur Brown
		37 - Cooper Murley (T7)
		38 - Brady Hough
		39 - Lachlan Rankin
		40 - Noah Gribble
		41 - Jesse Motlop
		42 - Oscar Morrison
		43 - Toby Conway
		44 - Josh Browne
		45 - Joel Fitzgerald
		46 - Angus Sheldrick (T8)
		47 - Conor McDonald
		48 - Noah Gadsby
		49 - Josh Fahey
		50 - Jase Burgoyne
		51 - Isaiah Dudley

The only player they both rated the same was Gibcus - pick 7

 

[Roobound]

I accept that Daicos vs JHF is a matter of opinion but the rest of Twomey's list compared with Souup's looks very much like a safe bookie's odds for the Melbourne Cup. It's very vanilla.

I think you will find Twomeys looks vanilla because most know he is not far off the mark & a lot of the people on here stick around his suggestions which is why its vanilla. However @Soupp is his own man & l personally like the different take....He was high on Horne-Francis when he only had the one name.