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If Adelaide get pick 2 for Crouch, do they take McDonald and Thilthorpe, or is one likely to be available at pick 4?
I'd say they need more than KPF's so a McDonald and Hollands makes more sense to me and is what I'd be doing, it'd be North that would be the concern for taking him imo
 
Tom Joyce isn’t out of contract. We typically give our kids four years on the list before delisting.

Our recruiters rated Joyce as a 17 year old, his top age year and 2 years in the system have been marred by hip injuries. If he overcomes this, he might yet show he’s a player.

i liked Joyce, but like Koschitzke they have both been injury plagued, lets hope they can mentally and physically come back from their injury situations
 
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Post finals two round phantom, I have no idea how accurate any of this will be. It's weird that as the year has gone on I've become less confident with what I'm putting out in general, trying to predict how many and which vic kids will slide is ridiculous and can be highlighted byt the varying rankings of a guy like Eddie Ford (although I'm pretty sure I've got him higher than anyone else) some have him around 20, some around 30, some not even top 40, this is causing me to go back through footage and try and see what I'm missing but I end up liking him more. In a similar sense I've been trying to find what's so likeable about Archie Perkins, I think he's got great characteristics but don't see him as any more consistent than Ford, ah well. I like to think I half got these picks based on needs and best available, with FA compo it'll be interesting to see how it changes things.
 

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Interesting that you've taken the Macrae road for the Dockers over Carroll, any reason why?
Honestly can't justify it any further than I feel Macrae is more highly rated at AFL Club level from what I can gather, probably has a few more advanced athletic traits that suit the style of Winger Longmuir has described (to paraphrase, speedy). I'd personally go Carroll if I was in the situation as well, so it could well be me over thinking
 
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Post finals two round phantom, I have no idea how accurate any of this will be. It's weird that as the year has gone on I've become less confident with what I'm putting out in general, trying to predict how many and which vic kids will slide is ridiculous and can be highlighted byt the varying rankings of a guy like Eddie Ford (although I'm pretty sure I've got him higher than anyone else) some have him around 20, some around 30, some not even top 40, this is causing me to go back through footage and try and see what I'm missing but I end up liking him more. In a similar sense I've been trying to find what's so likeable about Archie Perkins, I think he's got great characteristics but don't see him as any more consistent than Ford, ah well. I like to think I half got these picks based on needs and best available, with FA compo it'll be interesting to see how it changes things.
Baldwin would be a super ballsy pick, with his injury history and size and play style im not seeing him being much of a difference make at AFL level
 
Honestly can't justify it any further than I feel Macrae is more highly rated at AFL Club level from what I can gather, probably has a few more advanced athletic traits that suit the style of Winger Longmuir has described (to paraphrase, speedy). I'd personally go Carroll if I was in the situation as well, so it could well be me over thinking
Yeah I think with the options available Carroll is the best left from a Freo perspective. Macrae feels like a Freo pick though, and I really like what he brings to the table
 
Baldwin would be a super ballsy pick, with his injury history and size and play style im not seeing him being much of a difference make at AFL level
Without a doubt, the injuries are the big reason for the slide, and tbh Gold Coast aren't likely to take 3 picks so it was more a way to show "This is about the area I'd consider him, Suns are a team that can afford to take on the development risk".
 
Injury should be your only concern mate,he's got all other bases covered.



A guy like Aidan Bonar who did the two knees but maintained a high athletic base is probably giving some hope that Baldwin maintains that burst on a lead as well, hopefully a year at AFL level will get him the proper conditioning to thrive
 
Injury should be your only concern mate,he's got all other bases covered.



He is a pure key forward, tell me how many best 22 key forwards in the AFL currently are under 195cms? AFL defenders are bigger, faster and stronger then what he has had to play against so far in his career. Unless he dramatically changes his game and turns into a 3rd tall type I don't see him being a player of impact. That's just my opinion and im very happy to be completely wrong
 
He is a pure key forward, tell me how many best 22 key forwards in the AFL currently are under 195cms? AFL defenders are bigger, faster and stronger then what he has had to play against so far in his career. Unless he dramatically changes his game and turns into a 3rd tall type I don't see him being a player of impact. That's just my opinion and im very happy to be completely wrong
If his knees stand the AFL test I have no doubt you'll be wrong...and that's just my opinion.
 

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He is a pure key forward, tell me how many best 22 key forwards in the AFL currently are under 195cms? AFL defenders are bigger, faster and stronger then what he has had to play against so far in his career. Unless he dramatically changes his game and turns into a 3rd tall type I don't see him being a player of impact. That's just my opinion and im very happy to be completely wrong
Buddy Franklin, Jeremy Cameron, Josh Kennedy, Jack Darling, Jarryd Roughead, Taylor Walker, Jack Riewoldt all on or under 196. Most are getting on but these make up a large chunk of the dominant key forwards over the last 10 years. Don't think Baldwin's height will be an issue in the slightest.
 
Buddy Franklin, Jeremy Cameron, Josh Kennedy, Jack Darling, Jarryd Roughead, Taylor Walker, Jack Riewoldt all on or under 196. Most are getting on but these make up a large chunk of the dominant key forwards over the last 10 years. Don't think Baldwin's height will be an issue in the slightest.
When key defenders are regularly 198+ these days i think it will make a difference. He jsnt going to be anywhere near as dominant in the air as he is as a junior. Going to need to get some more tricks in his bag.
 
When key defenders are regularly 198+ these days i think it will make a difference. He jsnt going to be anywhere near as dominant in the air as he is as a junior. Going to need to get some more tricks in his bag.
You really think 3 or 4 cm's is going to make that much difference?
 
Yep, because it can translate in to a significantly longer reach.

Especially if the player has a longer arm span than his height.

Athleticism is important to, of course.
Nope.

Talent beats all of that...the only thing that will stop Baldwin being a first class AFL Forward will be if he hasn't retained his former leap and mobility after the knee issues.
 

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Re Fremantle and our 2nd pick with a potential NGA bid, I would be tempted to pass and select either Neale or Callow.

I really like Walker but HBF is a position we are deep in, so the club would need to be confident that he can play elsewhere. It feels likely to me that we would be taking a player such as McCrae or Carroll or Cook at our first.

In contrast, ruck and forward/ruck are positions of need and our 2nd feels like it is in the range for considering Neale and Callow. It also feels like it is the very earliest pick Walker is likely to be looked at, and potentially just to draw our matching bid.

Thoughts?
 
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Re Fremantle and our 2nd pick with a potential NGA bid, I would be tempted to pass and select either Neale or Callow.

I really like Walker but HBF is a position we are deep in, so the club would need to be confident that he can play elsewhere. It feels likely to me that we would be taking a player such as McGuinness or Carroll or Cook at our first.

In contrast, ruck and forward/ruck are positions of need and our 2nd feels like it is in the range for considering Neale and Callow. It also feels like it is the very earliest pick Walker is likely to be looked at, and potentially just to draw our matching bid.

Thoughts?
It's possible, but we may also try and bring in a 2nd, second rounder. Whether through trade or borrowing from the future and get both.
 
Which both?
Walker and one of Neale or Callow. We really need pace as well and good kicking. He gives us both of those things. Getting Callow and Neale wouldn't be bad either. Be curious to see which way Freo go, especially if, as you say, we pick up an outside runner/ hf in the first round. Sounds like Fyfe will spend a fair bit of time forward though, so that may influence their thinking a little and Walker is seen as a pretty good talent by many, that we may not want to pass on. Now i'll get the splinters out of my rear end.
 
Nope.

Talent beats all of that...the only thing that will stop Baldwin being a first class AFL Forward will be if he hasn't retained his former leap and mobility after the knee issues.
Unless he’s playing as the 3rd tall, he’s going to be coming up against AFL standard defences, where most players are talented, and many significantly taller.

How’s he going to fare against Brisbane where our two tall defenders are Harris Andrews 201cm and Jack Payne 197cm.

Our third tall defender will be either Darcy Gardiner 193cm or Marcus Adams 192cm.
 
Unless he’s playing as the 3rd tall, he’s going to be coming up against AFL standard defences, where most players are talented, and many significantly taller.

How’s he going to fare against Brisbane where our two tall defenders are Harris Andrews 201cm and Jack Payne 197cm.

Our third tall defender will be either Darcy Gardiner 193cm or Marcus Adams 192cm.
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