Do you follow the Collingwood Football Club or the Collingwood Magpies Football Club?
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Do you follow the Collingwood Football Club or the Collingwood Magpies Football Club?
There's your answer, I've been asked to stop posting here. So I end it there.
Of course they don’t. But let’s be honest, No one gives a s**t about vfl flags either. That’s one for the history buffs when players drop kicked on muddy fields. Community games. Great fun. But no one cares about the flags except for a few older fans. Certainly no one counts them nationally. So let’s not pretend like Carlton’s history is any more glorious than Ports because anyone born in the last 30 years only remembers a bottom feeding club who’s only purpose is to make up the numbers.Nobody gives a fu** about SANFL flags or history, deal with it.
Of course they don’t. But let’s be honest, No one gives a sh*t about vfl flags either. That’s one for the history buffs when players drop kicked on muddy fields. Community games. Great fun. But no one cares about the flags except for a few older fans. Certainly no one counts them nationally. So let’s not pretend like Carlton’s history is any more glorious than Ports because anyone born in the last 30 years only remembers a bottom feeding club who’s only purpose is to make up the numbers.
I'm not a big Eddie fan but he isn't doing anything wrong here, Port came into the league with the teal coloured jumper and have changed it almost every season since.
Eddie for the showdown allowed Port to wear the prison bars, like any spoilt child they want more.
Collingwood have been very loyal to the jumper maybe Port should take some notes.
We've got 20k more members than you and more rivals that bring in big crowds than your provincial league team.
I'm not a big Eddie fan but he isn't doing anything wrong here, Port came into the league with the teal coloured jumper and have changed it almost every season since.
Eddie for the showdown allowed Port to wear the prison bars, like any spoilt child they want more.
Collingwood have been very loyal to the jumper maybe Port should take some notes.
Nobody gives a fu** about Carlton.. just fold
I'm confused by this statement. Are you saying that SANFL flags are objectively worth more than VFL flags?LOL your VFL flags (not that there are too many) aren't worth as much as our SANFL flags by the only objective measure available, so deal with that.
Clubs win flags, not sides.Don't really understand why Port would want to wear a SANFL guernsey when they are the POWER and have been for a quarter of a century?
Ditto when they try to claim the SANFL flags.
If they claim the SANFL flags for the AFL side, then how many flags does the SANFL side have left over? They also can't claim the SANFL flags because they were won by a different team in a different competition.
Now, as much as I love to bring the same argument to the old VFL clubs, it really isn't the same thing, as the current Vic AFL teams are the old VFL teams. The league evolved from the old VFL. The new VFL are not the old VFL teams, otherwise would Williamstown claim Collingwood's flags as their own, etc?
Port simply need to embrace their identity, not try to cling on to the successes of their reserves team. That's something Freo would do....
Port are not asking to wear it with a Magpie logo.Arrogant!? You question my arrogance after 'there was no agreement, produce it'. Like I have a copy of the agreement, when you know I don't.
Just to be clear, I don't have an issue with Port wearing their pb in showdown games.
What I do have an issue with is some Port fans advocating for regular wearing of it with a magpie emblem no less.
No. fcku off, we were in the comp first and wore the stripes before the pb jumper existed.
If you want to talk about arrogance, it's this attitude that you can just walk into a competition demand what your team can wear colours and logos that obviously has too much similarity and effect to another club that was in the comp before the one these w***** are advocating for.
I hope this is a poor attempt at a troll. Otherwise...I'm a little confused over this. Port Adelaide is known as the Port Adelaide Power in the AFL, not the magpies. They joined the AFL under that name and identity, so I don't see why Collingwood should accept Port trying to steal their identity - because it's obvious that they are. If port are so adamant to be the magpies, then they should stick to the SANFL.
Glad we all agree then. Let's move on.Personally I don't have an issue with the pb in showdown games, as long as there is no magpie emblem and yes I know there won't be.
Then why is it white on black now?Collingwood have been very loyal to the jumper
We are loyal the jumper, that's what this entire campaign is about. We've been forced into other guernseys since joining the AFL and they don't feel right because they aren't the jumper we're loyal to.
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That’s not strictly correct, is it?
No one ‘forced’ Port into a different guernsey. It was a condition of entry into the AFL that Port adopt an AFL brand that was different to the SANFL brand. Presumably this was because, by any reasonable assessment, Port’s brand was substantially similar as an existing AFL club’s - Collingwood.
The colours and guernsey were proposed by the club for their AFL bid, and were not selected and imposed on the club by the AFL.
We weren't forced into any specific guernsey, we made those very 90s mistakes all on our own. But we were forced into a guernsey different from the Prison Bars, which is what I was referring to.
Arrogant!? You question my arrogance after 'there was no agreement, produce it'. Like I have a copy of the agreement, when you know I don't.
Just to be clear, I don't have an issue with Port wearing their pb in showdown games.
What I do have an issue with is some Port fans advocating for regular wearing of it with a magpie emblem no less.
No. fcku off, we were in the comp first and wore the stripes before the pb jumper existed.
If you want to talk about arrogance, it's this attitude that you can just walk into a competition demand what your team can wear colours and logos that obviously has too much similarity and effect to another club that was in the comp before the one these w***** are advocating for.
Nobody gives a fu** about SANFL flags or history, deal with it.
This thread has run it’s course.
I actually like the idea, die hard old school fans not however.Port can wear the prison bars if they want to incorporate teal in to the design.
Great, indepth and detailed response..
So..
Do you think Collingwood members should vote on it?
Have you thought of how you’d feel if the shoe was on the other foot?..
Do you think Port’s AFL team should be allowed to bring the magpie back as a mascot?.. could that be the next thing they ask for?
I just think these are very valid questions..
Where does it all end...