Preview R10: Changes vs. Collingwood

[ABAB]

Milera has to go out. Enough’s enough. Wasn’t a fan of him playing round 1, but I wanted it to work.
Too many costly errors and turnovers.
Edwards would be the obvious replacement, but I’d go as far as to say I’d prefer Smith to Milera. Come at me

Milera is clearly picking when to try and when not too given how he played last week compared to last night. Yes, they are different opposition but you can always pride yourself on effort.

 

[ABAB]

There’s one glaring issue with Sid Draper’s game, which worried me when we recruited him — and even more after watching him yesterday.

He doesn’t kick the ball. For a player with such line breaking speed, it’s such a waste to be so handball happy. He should be a huge metre eater. If he can’t change his game, we are going to lament not picking Langford ahead of him. 17 handballs yesterday. 7 kicks.

Fix it, AFC. And he can do it in the SANFL I reckon.

We'll be complaining how slow our midfield will be had we selected Langford lol. It's easily fixable given Draper isn't a very poor kick.

 

[Cromulant]

His concern about Sid being handball happy and getting all tangled up isn’t a new concern, it was one of the knocks in his draft year

They're constructive handballs though, not the Crouch/Laird backwards to a player under pressure handball.

 

[George CantStandYa]

They're constructive handballs though, not the Crouch/Laird backwards to a player under pressure handball.

I don’t know about that, some seem to be panic handballs

 

[FR0GGY]

Keane cleared, not even a fine, finally some common sense.

 

[mcleod at 50 lines it up]

Milera has to go out. Enough’s enough. Wasn’t a fan of him playing round 1, but I wanted it to work.
Too many costly errors and turnovers.
Edwards would be the obvious replacement, but I’d go as far as to say I’d prefer Smith to Milera. Come at me

As ridiculous as it is to kill a guy for one disposal or error, just the lack of care for the ball at that stage of the game was astonishing!

 

[1970crow]

They're constructive handballs though, not the Crouch/Laird backwards to a player under pressure handball.

I don’t get the Sid criticism, kid comfortably looks the goods. Why we’re selecting a known fringe player ahead of him is madness. If we didn’t have Sid, I’d be happy enough for Berry to get a couple of games.

 

[jimvic]

Milera is clearly picking when to try and when not too given how he played last week compared to last night. Yes, they are different opposition but you can always pride yourself on effort.

Milera doesn't give us enough, and yes he is picking and choosing when to go. Also drop Berry and bring in Cheds, even if he is sub. He is wasted in SANFL

out Milera (Cumming to HB), Berry (Edwards to sub), bring in Sid where he can use his speed on the wing.

 

[Cromulant]

I don’t get the Sid criticism, kid comfortably looks the goods. Why we’re selecting a known fringe player ahead of him is madness. If we didn’t have Sid, I’d be happy enough for Berry to get a couple of games.

To be fair to Berry he's not put a foot wrong so far this year.

Happy for him to continue to sit as the sub, but Draper does need a spot.

 

[1970crow]

To be fair to Berry he's not put a foot wrong so far this year.

Happy for him to continue to sit as the sub, but Draper does need a spot.

It’s Berry or Taylor, there’s no other options. Unless we develop him off half back. Happy for him to replace either Laird or Milera.

 

[Cromulant]

It’s Berry or Taylor, there’s no other options. Unless we develop him off half back. Happy for him to replace either Laird or Milera.

Probably not a bad idea.

Kid has very good footy IQ, blinding speed and despite people's concerns, he kicks the ball well enough

 

[BunjiMC]

Beat the Pies at the G and we should be in the top 2 after round 11.

 

[cleanhands]

Beat the Pies at the G and we should be in the top 2 after round 11.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Walker needs a break. Give Curtin his role. Edwards as 3rd wingman.

Bond in for Milera to play on Normie.

Berry needs a full game, so Pedlar in as sub.

In: Edwards, Bond, Pedlar
Out: Walker, Milera, Berry

B: Bond, Butt, Keane
HB: Michaelanny, Worrell, Hinge
C: Cumming, Dawson, Nankervis
HF: ANB, Fogarty, Keays
F: Rachele, Thilthorpe, Curtin
R: OBrien, Peatling, Rankine
I: Laird, Soligo, Edwards, Taylor
Sub: Pedlar

 

[TBM]

So do we get to watch Daicos absolutely destroy it in the midfield like we just watched with Butters ?
Collingwood aren't just gonna end up bombing it where Dixon used to be

Yep, we don’t tag regardless of opposition. Our lack of ability to have a shutdown player or tactic for opposition A-Graders is a big deficiency, regardless of who we play in our midfield mix.

 

[PCORF]

Beat the Pies at the G and we should be in the top 2 after round 11.

Huge test. It's going to require guts and determination.

I know we will be in this game, but we'll need the same belief as Collingwood in those final minutes and to be sure that any bad umpiring decisions will not stop us.

 

[spenze]

Really liking the idea of holding Draper out and dropping Curtin, it’s like people are so desperate to get 7th on the ladder that they’ll think as short term as if there name was Matthew Nicks

Matthew Nicks

Age

50

Ht

187cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.6

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.4

3star

.

If there are two kids we can carry whilst not injured and get to 50 games it is those two, they are the future as much as Thilthorpe.

For years we identified not having top 10 picks and now we have them there are people who’d rather not play them and let them get confidence in the magoos.

Kinda wish the same standards were being applied to some of our downhill skiing group of seniors who continuously let us down in close games.

If there is a game you want those guys learning from, it is against the ladder leaders

 

[Danger in Texas]

Really liking the idea of holding Draper out and dropping Curtin, it’s like people are so desperate to get 7th on the ladder that they’ll think as short term as if there name was Matthew Nicks.

If there are two kids we can carry whilst not injured and get to 50 games it is those two, they are the future as much as Thilthorpe.

For years we identified not having top 10 picks and now we have them there are people who’d rather not play them and let them get confidence in the magoos.

Kinda wish the same standards were being applied to some of our downhill skiing group of seniors who continuously let us down in close games.

If there is a game you want those guys learning from, it is against the ladder leaders

Berry’s impact as sub has been very good, would keep him in that role for now

Who would you drop for Draper?

 

[spenze]

Berry’s impact as sub has been very good, would keep him in that role for now

Who would you drop for Draper?

At least 10 people.

I mean seriously, Berry is a fringe player, why prioritise games into him above Draper?

It was only last year that we had someone on here confidently telling us that we wouldn’t notice the drop between Thilthorpe and Burgess.

Talent shines through and should be nurtured.

 

[Danger in Texas]

At least 10 people.

I mean seriously, Berry is a fringe player, why prioritise games into him above Draper?

It was only last year that we had someone on here confidently telling us that we wouldn’t notice the drop between Thilthorpe and Burgess.

Talent shines through and should be nurtured.

I’d be happier giving Draper a full SANFL game compared to an AFL sub game, tbh. Develop his midfield craft at whatever level - don’t give him minimal game time (I don’t really care about Berry, hence why he’s the perfect sub)

That Burgess/Thilthorpe point is completely irrelevant to the discussion FWIW

Draper is incredibly talented, but what moves would you make to get him into the side this week?

 

[AFC979810]

Really liking the idea of holding Draper out and dropping Curtin, it’s like people are so desperate to get 7th on the ladder that they’ll think as short term as if there name was Matthew Nicks.

If there are two kids we can carry whilst not injured and get to 50 games it is those two, they are the future as much as Thilthorpe.

For years we identified not having top 10 picks and now we have them there are people who’d rather not play them and let them get confidence in the magoos.

Kinda wish the same standards were being applied to some of our downhill skiing group of seniors who continuously let us down in close games.

If there is a game you want those guys learning from, it is against the ladder leaders

Not to mention its at the MCG. We get 3 games at the MCG this year. Draper and Curtin need to play all 3.

I’d be happier giving Draper a full SANFL game compared to an AFL sub game, tbh. Develop his midfield craft at whatever level - don’t give him minimal game time (I don’t really care about Berry, hence why he’s the perfect sub)

That Burgess/Thilthorpe point is completely irrelevant to the discussion FWIW

Draper is incredibly talented, but what moves would you make to get him into the side this week?

SANFL will do nothing for Draper. Full game AFL > Sub Game AFL > Rest > SANFL.

 

[Danger in Texas]

SANFL will do nothing for Draper. Full game AFL > Sub Game AFL > Rest > SANFL.

I’ve said in the past that if Draper stays a month or more in the SANFL side, there’s something to worry about

Otherwise, I’m happy to trust the process. Why is Draper getting 1/4 of a game at AFL level better for his development that a full game at SANFL level?

 

[Captain Furious]

I mean we’ve played 9 games and he’s been shit in 6 of them but whatever.

How many goals has he conceded? Which forward has beaten him this season? Without mentioning his disposal is top 25% comp wide - in a team that struggles to hit targets.

 

[WeeBlake]

its called SNTS

Shiny new toy syndrome

people just want new players for the sake of new players. It’s kind of pathetic. It’s like the obsession with Draper. He has done ****all to deserve his spot but was given so many chances. We have Dowling and Edwards who easily deserve a spot above Draper right now. But everyones obsessed with Milera being outed and playing Draper

Maybe some on this board have it.

The opposite though is Treasued Old Toy Syndrome, and it has been a big problem at selection for years.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Maybe some on this board have it.

The opposite though is Treasued Old Toy Syndrome, and it has been a big problem at selection for years.

Every club has it. Unfortunately with team sports mature age players tend to hang around longer than you would idealy like. Its probably the romance of it all.