Review R14: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. Hawthorn Hawks

[CrowBloke]

Love Dan Curtin, he will be a star for you guys.

I won't be surprised if he packs up and returns to WA at his earliest opportunity.

Thanks again.

 

[Cromulant]

I won't be surprised if he packs up and returns to WA at his earliest opportunity.

Thanks again.

I will be staggered

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

& 3x 50m penalties.

We didn't make the most of our chances, but Stevic did take control in the 2nd half to be BOG for Hawks

Stevic has always been a pro-Hawks cheat. Not that I'm blaming the umpires for the loss (we lost that ourselves), but the prick is corrupt like Pannell was for the Dogs.

 

[CrowBloke]

Everyone seemed to think Davis was going to come in and fix everything.

I did not.

Well at the moment he's a flop.

Harsh.
Davis does not make the final decisions. Nicks does.

Unless his role is to observe, do **** all, and let Nicks make the exact same mistakes as last year.

Nicks does not have to accept any advice or act on any of Davis' suggestions.
Your next comment is proof that Nicks does not:

We're picking the same duds that we know aren't up to it. We're pre-planning subs. We're carrying seniors that are liabilities.

ALL are final shit-calls, made by Nicks.

And a response of "Well Nicks probably isn't listening" doesn't pass the pub test.

It's clear that Nicks is not listening, as per your last sentence above.

Guy took big dollars to move down here but the coach isn't listening to him

Correct.

and no higher ups are stepping in?

Also correct, at this stage.

I feel your frustration but Davis is not the Head Coach (unfortunately --- I actually think he'd be a good choice if the Board ever wakes up). I want Nicks sacked.
Look what Tottenham Hotspurs did to Ange --- he got them that Trophy and about 100 million pounds that go with it from appearing in the Champions Trophy next year
and
they sacked him on the back of his Premier League record after only 2 years.
No success where they wanted it; he's gone.

Our Club will retain Nicks and probably extend his contract if we make Finals this year, which seems likely.
So, we'll be doomed to another few years of his stubborn ineptitude.
Nicks is TEMU-Hinkley without the Win-Loss record but just as many Flags, betcha.

 

[CrowBloke]

What a shit feeling waking up this morning was

Yeah, looks like South Africa will chase down the runs required, eh?

 

[CrowBloke]

Do we win if Bond was brought in to tag impey instead of Murphy?

More likely, than not. We will never know while that peanut is our Head Coach.

 

[CrowBloke]

We play like we're sedated.

We have been.

We've been Nicksed; totally underwhelmed.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Stevic has always been a pro-Hawks cheat. Not that I'm blaming the umpires for the loss (we lost that ourselves), but the prick is corrupt like Pannell was for the Dogs.

Hence is highly rated as one of the best VAFL umpires... for his ability to influence games.

 

[CrowBloke]

I will be staggered

I hope I'm wrong; he's a helluva player (smooth mover, great down low for his height, excellent mark) and will be a gun.
But Adelaide is not HOME.

What makes you think he's more likely to stay than not?

 

[brucetiki]

We didn’t have our best night but still got within 3 points of Hawthorn in Launceston - where they have dominated in recent years (I think our win against them in 2023 there was one of their most recent losses in Launceston).

Can’t fault our defence - they were outstanding and kept fighting all night. And that Worrell tackle on Watson was sublime.

Just need to get the firepower up forward firing again.

We head into the bye 9-5 and in the top 4. We have a good run home, with 3 of our 4 remaining away games against the current bottom 3 sides (throw in the Showdown and we have matches against the current bottom 4 to come).

Already, we’ve improved on last season.

I really don’t get the doom and gloom on here.

 

[adelaidecrows]

We didn’t have our best night but still got within 3 points of Hawthorn in Launceston - where they have dominated in recent years (I think our win against them in 2023 there was one of their most recent losses in Launceston).

Can’t fault our defence - they were outstanding and kept fighting all night. And that Worrell tackle on Watson was sublime.

Just need to get the firepower up forward firing again.

We head into the bye 9-5 and in the top 4. We have a good run home, with 3 of our 4 remaining away games against the current bottom 3 sides (throw in the Showdown and we have matches against the current bottom 4 to come).

Already, we’ve improved on last season.

I really don’t get the doom and gloom on here.

The doom and gloom is a direct reflection on poor selection not giving us the best chance of winning. I think 99% of us can cope with a loss, someone has to lose in close hard fought games, but hard to accept it when I can say with certainty anyone else selected would have had greater impact on the match than Murphy. So we essentially walked into the game handicapping ourselves. We already have a tactically void coach who cant think beyond plan A so we do have a right to question whats going on here.

 

[Southerntakeover]

We didn’t have our best night but still got within 3 points of Hawthorn in Launceston - where they have dominated in recent years (I think our win against them in 2023 there was one of their most recent losses in Launceston).

Can’t fault our defence - they were outstanding and kept fighting all night. And that Worrell tackle on Watson was sublime.

Just need to get the firepower up forward firing again.

We head into the bye 9-5 and in the top 4. We have a good run home, with 3 of our 4 remaining away games against the current bottom 3 sides (throw in the Showdown and we have matches against the current bottom 4 to come).

Already, we’ve improved on last season.

I really don’t get the doom and gloom on here.

No one is excited by an 'improvement' driven by constantly failing in the exact same ways with the oldest team we could possibly select whenever we play good teams, but winning more games against bad teams.

 

[Cromulant]

I hope I'm wrong; he's a helluva player (smooth mover, great down low for his height, excellent mark) and will be a gun.
But Adelaide is not HOME.

What makes you think he's more likely to stay than not?

Because its what he said during the week

 

[Mattrox]

Have we asked the AFL what the **** is going on here? Seems blatant.

 

[CrowBloke]

Because its what he said during the week

In this (nothing about staying, in here):

Curtin’s moment of reflection after Rising Star nomination

The 20-year-old received the Round 13 Telstra AFL Rising Star nomination

www.afc.com.au

or elsewhere please?

 

[Cromulant]

In this (nothing about staying, in here):

Curtin’s moment of reflection after Rising Star nomination

The 20-year-old received the Round 13 Telstra AFL Rising Star nomination

www.afc.com.au

or elsewhere please?

Article in the Advertiser suggests hes more than happy here and will sign a contract.

If he doesn't then he'll cost someone a lot

 

[MarcusP2]

Good: Hearing Darren Jarman on the Triple M pregame rant about forwards that can't kick a set shot.

 

[John Who]

I missed out on the game last night but just saw the highlights. Looked like we were flying in the first quarter. Except the goal kicking was complete shite.
The 2 obvious ones were: TT missing in 1st quarter from 20m out, and Dawson missing a goal just a couple of metres out from goal on an acute angle.

Ugly/soft: A few 50m penalties to the Hawks were some of the softest WTF moments!

A 3 point loss is not a total disaster in the scheme of things, and probably expected as we had played above and beyond ourselves in the recent few weeks.

 

[Syd Crow]

I did not.

Harsh.
Davis does not make the final decisions. Nicks does.

Nicks does not have to accept any advice or act on any of Davis' suggestions.
Your next comment is proof that Nicks does not:

ALL are final shit-calls, made by Nicks.

It's clear that Nicks is not listening, as per your last sentence above.

Correct.

Also correct, at this stage.

I feel your frustration but Davis is not the Head Coach (unfortunately --- I actually think he'd be a good choice if the Board ever wakes up). I want Nicks sacked.
Look what Tottenham Hotspurs did to Ange --- he got them that Trophy and about 100 million pounds that go with it from appearing in the Champions Trophy next year
and
they sacked him on the back of his Premier League record after only 2 years.
No success where they wanted it; he's gone.

Our Club will retain Nicks and probably extend his contract if we make Finals this year, which seems likely.
So, we'll be doomed to another few years of his stubborn ineptitude.
Nicks is TEMU-Hinkley without the Win-Loss record but just as many Flags, betcha.

I fear that you are 100% on the money here. Nicks will get a contract extension for making finals and he will replicate Hinkley's lack of success, wasting a few more years for the club without a premiership.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

The cooked part that loss was that you could sense it coming halfway through first quarter.

 

[John Who]

I fear that you are 100% on the money here. Nicks will get a contract extension for making finals and he will replicate Hinkley's lack of success, wasting a few more years for the club without a premiership.

Hinkley is probably a rare exception though. Most coaches who can get their team in top 4 positions repeatedly are often premiership coaches or at least can get their team to a GF.

“Nicks is unlikely to get us far in this year, even if we do make Finals” is a completely different set of equation to that “even if we end up with top 4 positions in the coming years, we’ll never win a GF, like Hinkley”.

 

[BRL121]

The cooked part that loss was that you could sense it coming halfway through first quarter.

This is absolutely right. I sensed it immediately after TT missed the soda. Then, at half time, this felt very real, in that we had killed them for a half without scoring enough and they had to respond and it was unlikely that we could keep it up.

 

[GreyCrow]

Hinkley is probably a rare exception though. Most coaches who can get their team in top 4 positions repeatedly are often premiership coaches or at least can get their team to a GF.

“Nicks is unlikely to get us far in this year, even if we do make Finals” is a completely different set of equation to that “even if we end up with top 4 positions in the coming years, we’ll never win a GF, like Hinkley”.

We will see but its not looking good

Hope you are right and I am wrong for the next 5 years

 

[CrowBloke]

Article in the Advertiser suggests hes more than happy here and will sign a contract.

I don't read it, so I missed that, thanks.
Still, I'm wondering --- did the journo suggest "he's more than happy here and will sign a contract" or did Curtin say it?

If he doesn't then he'll cost someone a lot

Agree.
It'll be a positive for Nicks if he re-signs.

 

[CrowBloke]

The 2 obvious ones were: TT missing in 1st quarter from 20m out, and Dawson missing a goal just a couple of metres out from goal on an acute angle.

Tex (in the clear) missed an easy snap from about 25 out in the third.
Also, RoB panic-blasted away from a few metres out, kicked ootf.

They have no composure.

RoB needs to be told to stay the hell out of the F50. Tex or RT can ruck inside the F50.
O'Brien is a waste of space in the F50, adds height where we all ready have plenty, gets in everybody's way ffs.