Play Nice Random Chat Thread VI

[blackshadow]

Holy sh*t.

A ******* Eunich interest website. GTFO

www.bigeunich.com make it happen Chief

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

www.bigeunich.com make it happen Chief

Already got it.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Can Beijing avoid being drawn into the Afghan quagmire? | The Strategist

Since Washington’s February 2020 agreement with the Taliban to withdraw from Afghanistan, some commentators have suggested that China may step into the vacuum. Beijing may be watching recent events with some apprehension, but it will ...

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[Ligma]

shinboner magic is s**t at 8 ball pool


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[The acurate one]

Hope the old campaigner is going ok

 

[ferball]

How long have you got? I spose if we’re comparing the two different systems the obvious one would be the freedom to start your own business free of the state.

You mean freedom from pesky things like the minimum wage?

 

[ferball]

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Hope the old campaigner is going ok

Its guinea pig appreciation day as well.

I reckon the 15 foot python in the roof that is as thick as my arm might appreciate them if it gets the chance.

LOL.

 

[Val Keating]

You mean freedom from pesky things like the minimum wage?

No. I mean freedom of independence, for example something that apple has but Huawei doesn’t.

 

[Val Keating]

Though I spose one only has to look at the nets around apple (and other) manufacturing buildings in China to see that socialist/communist aren’t above exploiting their people, and neither are the societies that use them. I can only imagine who made the Nikes I’m currently wearing.

 

[Val Keating]

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Hope the old campaigner is going ok

Admit it, you miss him. It’s like the board needs a villain and some of you all are lost with out him.

 

[Ligma]

Admit it, you miss him. It’s like the board needs a villain and some of you all are lost with out him.

Good point. He lives in peoples heads and that’s what he thrives off, apart from when people bring him up I forget he is even gone.

The last thing we need is a wannabe ‘Villain’ lol


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[Val Keating]

Good point. He lives in peoples heads and that’s what he thrives off, apart from when people bring him up I forget he is even gone.

The last thing we need is a wannabe ‘Villain’ lol


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There have been pages dedicated to him in this sub forum by people that apparently don’t care about him. It’s funny to see.

 

[Lomas]

Has anyone else ever wondered if Robinson Crusoe had first encountered his 'faithful companion' on a Wednesday, the character of Wednesday from the Addams Family would have been named after a different day of the week?

 

[Val Keating]

Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy?

The exaggerated stories the notorious financier pedophile told of his time in intelligence circles may have been at least partially true.

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Hoffenberg claimed that Leese was an arms dealer. (Leese’s son Julian says that is not true.) But the U.K. parliamentary record does mention Leese in reference to the El Yammamah arms deal of the early 1980s.

I remember distinctly that in our first meeting Hoffenberg told me that Leese was pivotal in understanding Jeffrey’s MO, because Leese had introduced him not only to aristocratic Europeans (who Epstein subsequently fleeced) but to all sorts of people in the arms business — including the late Turkish-born businessman Adnan Kashoggi — and, allegedly, the late media mogul Robert Maxwell.

 

[Ligma]

Has anyone else ever wondered if Robinson Crusoe had first encountered his 'faithful companion' on a Wednesday, the character of Wednesday from the Addams Family would have been named after a different day of the week?

It’s always on my mind lomas


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[ferball]

No. I mean freedom of independence, for example something that apple has but Huawei doesn’t.

In the US plenty of people argue that minimum wages and other enforced conditions are examples of the state interfering with peoples freedom to run their business the way they see fit.

They would argue (and this is a well established position) that Huawei is just the next step on from enforced or government mandated minimum wage rules for example and that if you ignore those rules that infringe on your freedom the government will crack down on you like the Chinese government. Obviously this is a bit rich ... breaking minimum wage laws in the west doesn't lead to the sort of response the Chinese government brings on anyone it doesn't like.

But my point is hat the concept of "feedom" (especially when it comes to running a business) is nebulous and unspecific and means different things to different people.

Some people would argue the pinnacle of freedom is having unlimited choices of coffee on your supermarket shelf others say it extends to being able to drink a carton of beer and go for a drive without facing any legal consequences.

 

[Lomas]

It’s always on my mind lomas


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s**t, here I was thinking it was a somewhat original brain fart.

 

[ferball]

Val, this is a quote attributed to Sam Bellamy, a famous pirate from the Golden Age of Caribbean piracy. He makes this speech (allegedly) to the captain of a boat they've captured. His crew has voted to burn the boat as its captain chose not to join them - Bellamy didn't want to but was bound by the democratic rules of piracy even tho he was captain of a small pirate fleet (two boats) and loved by his crews.

I am sorry they won't let you have your sloop again, for I scorn to do any one a mischief, when it is not to my advantage; damn the sloop, we must sink her, and she might be of use to you. Though you are a sneaking puppy, and so are all those who will submit to be governed by laws which rich men have made for their own security; for the cowardly whelps have not the courage otherwise to defend what they get by knavery; but damn ye altogether: damn them for a pack of crafty rascals, and you, who serve them, for a parcel of hen-hearted numbskulls. They vilify us, the scoundrels do, when there is only this difference, they rob the poor under the cover of law, forsooth, and we plunder the rich under the protection of our own courage. Had you not better make then one of us, than sneak after these villains for employment?

[Beer replied that his conscience would not let him break the laws of God and man, and Bellamy continued]

You are a devilish conscience rascal! I am a free prince, and I have as much authority to make war on the whole world as he who has a hundred sail of ships at sea and an army of 100,000 men in the field; and this my conscience tells me! But there is no arguing with such snivelling puppies, who allow superiors to kick them about deck at pleasure.

So what is actually "freedom"?

 

[Ligma]

sh*t, here I was thinking it was a somewhat original brain fart.

Whatever comes out of your brain is always very factual. I will be coming to you for all my knowledge, in fact I have learnt a lot off of you.


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[Lomas]

Val, this is a quote attributed to Sam Bellamy, a famous pirate from the Golden Age of Caribbean piracy. He makes this speech (allegedly) to the captain of a boat they've captured. His crew has voted to burn the boat as its captain chose not to join them - Bellamy didn't want to but was bound by the democratic rules of piracy even tho he was captain of a small pirate fleet (two boats) and loved by his crews.




So what is actually "freedom"?

I've actually read that quote before so am loath to post my next part, but my BigFooty persona demands it, sadly.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

You are never going to obtain the greatest of freedom unless you are willing to create an anarchist society. Due to various reasons and human nature, those societies have not really developed on a grand scale.

Next level down is libertarianism, which I feel encourages corporate domination and other various abuses and issues.

Liberal democracies are the best realistic attempt to develop a system with the greatest degree of realistic workable freedom with checks and balances, but without many of the excesses of anarchism and the higher authoritarianism of socialism and fascism. We can talk all day about prisons, wage slavery, spying, rights, etc, which are fair points, but at the end of the day, liberal democracy was never designed to be perfect and is the best of a s**t situation. Our media can say what it wants, I can tell the PM to GAGF and then vote him/her out without repercussion, I can pick any career I want, I can own property, we can have discussions on everything, I can chose to worship a religion or not, you can have Nazis/communists/anarchists freely criticise the system without consequence, not to mention all the freedoms that you and I take for granted every single day.

I do agree with Ferbs that freedom means different things to different people. Freedom also entails greater philosophical facets.

We always need to strive to fix the various faults and dissect whether we are truly free, but we also must accept that checks and balances are needed as some individuals cannot be trusted. We also must accept that utopian thinking is not realistic or achievable. Human nature needs to be accounted for in these type of discussions.

 

[Val Keating]

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[Themanbun]

You are never going to obtain the greatest of freedom unless you are willing to create an anarchist society. Due to various reasons and human nature, those societies have not really developed on a grand scale.

Next level down is libertarianism, which I feel encourages corporate domination and other various abuses and issues.

Liberal democracies are the best realistic attempt to develop a system with the greatest degree of realistic workable freedom with checks and balances, but without many of the excesses of anarchism and the higher authoritarianism of socialism and fascism. We can talk all day about prisons, wage slavery, spying, rights, etc, which are fair points, but at the end of the day, liberal democracy was never designed to be perfect and is the best of a sh*t situation. Our media can say what it wants, I can tell the PM to GAGF and then vote him/her out without repercussion, I can pick any career I want, I can own property, we can have discussions on everything, I can chose to worship a religion or not, you can have Nazis/communists/anarchists freely criticise the system without consequence, not to mention all the freedoms that you and I take for granted every single day.

I do agree with Ferbs that freedom means different things to different people. Freedom also entails greater philosophical facets.

We always need to strive to fix the various faults and dissect whether we are truly free, but we also must accept that checks and balances are needed as some individuals cannot be trusted. We also must accept that utopian thinking is not realistic or achievable. Human nature needs to be accounted for in these type of discussions.

People like Bernard Shaw would agree with your last point about utopian thinking...while advocating a range of solutions from 'you're not truly free until your basic, comfortable living standards are completely guaranteed regardless of work status' all the way through to complete equality of income. Bertrand Russell also did a power of work on that topic.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

People like Bernard Shaw would agree with your last point about utopian thinking...while advocating a range of solutions from 'you're not truly free until your basic, comfortable living standards are completely guaranteed regardless of work status' all the way through to complete equality of income. Bertrand Russell also did a power of work on that topic.

It is something I should read more on in all honesty. I am coming from purely a political science and a biased liberal conservative perspective on this one, so even my views on utopian thinking are restricted to political area and then transferred to the philosophical level. Political philosophy is useful for most things, but they are still limited in its views on human nature.


Will look up both, thanks.

 

[rickety]

I've actually read that quote before so am loath to post my next part, but my BigFooty persona demands it, sadly.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

That's in a song somewhere