So we are Carlton late 2000’s?
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Or Melbourne in the Trengove Toumpas years
We are pretty much every rebuild team ever. They go in 3-5 year cycles, and reset with each new coach.
Eventually one takes and the team bursts out of his doom spiral
Like Brisbane with Fagan or Carlton mid way through 2023
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Current AFL Final Droughts:
Gold Coast - 13 seasons
North Melbourne - 8 seasons
Crows - 6 seasons
Hawks - 5 seasons.
What concerns me so much with our rebuild is that there has been no spike. Nicks is in very sad company as a coach. One of only 3 coaches to not make the finals in their first 100 games as head coach of a club with Alan Richardson / Stuart Dew being the other two.
Both Stuart Dew and Alan Richardson were fired after 6 seasons. We have signed Nicks to a two year extension which means he is paid to coach us for 7 seasons.
Gold Coast - 13 seasons
North Melbourne - 8 seasons
Crows - 6 seasons
Hawks - 5 seasons.
What concerns me so much with our rebuild is that there has been no spike. Nicks is in very sad company as a coach. One of only 3 coaches to not make the finals in their first 100 games as head coach of a club with Alan Richardson / Stuart Dew being the other two.
Both Stuart Dew and Alan Richardson were fired after 6 seasons. We have signed Nicks to a two year extension which means he is paid to coach us for 7 seasons.
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It's an interesting matchup this week against Freo as they are in a pretty similar position to us list and rebuild wise.
2019 - Free goes 9-13 lose Lyon. They then finish 12th, 11th, 5th & 14th.
2019 - We go 10-12 fire Pike. We finish 18th, 15th, 14th, 10th.
Freo's List - 15th in Average Age 24.0 / 17th in Average games 55.5
Adelaides List - 14th in Average Age 24.3 / 15th in Average games 61.6
On the weekend:
0-2 Adelaide average age 25.6 / average games 88.7 (9 players under 50 games).
2-0 Fremantle average age 25.5 / average games 88.4 (7 players under 50 games).
Very interesting comparing the two coaches as well...
Longmuir - 86 games - 43 wins, 42 losses, 1 draw. Won a final in 2022.
Nicks - 85 games - 29 wins, 59 losses.
Both were entering 2024 in the final year of their contract. Fremantle give Longmuir a surprise 1 year extension in the preseason tying him to Freo until the end of 2025.
We wait until a round 1 loss to ink Nicks to a 2 year extension tying him to the club until the end of 2026.
Why do we keep doing stupid things?
2019 - Free goes 9-13 lose Lyon. They then finish 12th, 11th, 5th & 14th.
2019 - We go 10-12 fire Pike. We finish 18th, 15th, 14th, 10th.
Freo's List - 15th in Average Age 24.0 / 17th in Average games 55.5
Adelaides List - 14th in Average Age 24.3 / 15th in Average games 61.6
On the weekend:
0-2 Adelaide average age 25.6 / average games 88.7 (9 players under 50 games).
2-0 Fremantle average age 25.5 / average games 88.4 (7 players under 50 games).
Very interesting comparing the two coaches as well...
Longmuir - 86 games - 43 wins, 42 losses, 1 draw. Won a final in 2022.
Nicks - 85 games - 29 wins, 59 losses.
Both were entering 2024 in the final year of their contract. Fremantle give Longmuir a surprise 1 year extension in the preseason tying him to Freo until the end of 2025.
We wait until a round 1 loss to ink Nicks to a 2 year extension tying him to the club until the end of 2026.
Why do we keep doing stupid things?
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Essendon?
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They made the finals in 2021. So its only been 2 years for them.
They haven't won a final since 2004.
Nothing wrong with the smaller mids.
Just need at least one big one. We have that in Dawson now.
Edwards a nice size too.
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Ahh yes!
I guess the argument you could make is that Dawson isn’t a bigger clearance winner type, a la Wines/Cripps/JPK/Dunkley etc
But is that necessary to have? Maybe not
Literally could have picked anyone, even a plank of wood and it would have been more impactful that Mcasey.
Dont ask me how i remember this but some of your players have shrunk...
AFL and your offical site has tex and fog listed at 192, last year i remember them being 194 and 195. Same with Keays and Hinge, last year being 187 and 190 and 185 and 187. Only player who grew is smith from 190 to 194 lol
AFL and your offical site has tex and fog listed at 192, last year i remember them being 194 and 195. Same with Keays and Hinge, last year being 187 and 190 and 185 and 187. Only player who grew is smith from 190 to 194 lol
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We could have been real clever and turned pick 4 into Day AND Pickett
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Surely people now can stop blaming the AFL for giving the GC a PP causing us to miss out on Anderson? There were plenty talented mids available at our pick and we opted for McAsey. That's our * up, not the league's.
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Because our core group philosophy excludes flexibility and dare
According to some Rachele mentions how a run in the midfield would be good and gets 0 - calm your farm lad and earn your place - ask again in 5 years time
Port sat down and looked at their list and midfield and had a transition plan. And executed it perfectly - meanwhile we roll out Laird, Crouch , Sloane and the new kid ( who had to be made captain to get a spot) evey freaking week
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And if JHF had played…
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