Religon V Technology

[Cap]

After reading numerous threads about Religion being the root of all evil and how much is has contributed to pain and suffering to the world and ignoring any positives it has given.

It got me thinking, of all the things which has caused suffrage in the World technological advancements has to be the number 1.

The advancement of smelting (especially iron) combined with gunpowder has clearly been the cause of all human suffering in the world and it clearly hasn't got better with flying, nuclear energy and the ability for man to make chemicals and other advancements which have been heralded in the past 200 years.

Most of these technological advancements whilst made with good intentions inadvertantly cause more pain and suffering than good. To make matters worse these technologies were passed onto civilization who were not prepared from them or gave them massive advantages over their neighbors causing more hardship and death.

You could also argue that all of the modern technological advancements such as Air Conditioning, Cars and other carbon emission based technologies are going to end all human life as we know through global warming.

So the posters who wish to ban all religion should be also fighting to halt technological advancement, I may be able to accept medical advancements however even those have managed to be used to kill people by pricing them out of a life saving problem.

So who is with me? How should we go about banning technological advancement by Mankind to stop the hardship and death that it causes.

 

[RUNVS]

Technological advanced has done a lot more good than evil. Imagine if humans didn't work to better ourselves we would still be stuck in the dark ages where they believe that to cure a fever you had to drill a hole in the persons head to release the demons within.

 

[Cap]

I'm sure the many people slaughtered from Weapons that have been created would be nodding in agreement

 

[simpleton]

You could also argue that all of the modern technological advancements such as Air Conditioning, Cars and other carbon emission based technologies are going to end all life as we know through global warming.

What a ridiculous comment. Even if the world heated 10 degrees on average there still would be life. The planet has been through a wide range of climates from ice ages to hot periods, and yet life has thrived. Also observe the variety of life and how humans adapt to live in different climates - from the freezing Artic to the heat of the Saharan desert.

 

[Cap]

What a ridiculous comment. Even if the world heated 10 degrees on average there still would be life. The planet has been through a wide range of climates from ice ages to hot periods, and yet life has thrived. Also observe the variety of life and how humans adapt to live in different climates - from the freezing Artic to the heat of the Saharan desert.

you assuming humans can live through these changes.... I'll amend to Human Life

 

[Peninsula Boy]

There is nothing wrong with technological advancement.

It is how it is used.

Unfortunately, we are so far in the ego that it is used for its purposes which are what you would call evil. If we didn't have the ego, technology would be used correctly.

 

[linga_is_no1]

the two are one and the same, religion has caused a lot of technological advancement.

 

[RUNVS]

the two are one and the same, religion has caused a lot of technological advancement.

It has also held back technological advancement by quite a long time as well. Imagine if the Roman Empire didn't fall and Europe did't go into the dark ages, the world would be around 500 years more advanced than it is today.

 

[Sloth]

I hope the OP was joking but in the event that he was serious, just ask yourself...would you rather be living in the Dark Ages or now?

 

[Moo]

I hope the OP was joking but in the event that he was serious, just ask yourself...would you rather be living in the Dark Ages or now?

Without religion - you would be in the dark ages too.

 

[Zarrix]

re:the evils of technology,Would you rather be slaughtered with an axe, or shot in the chest with a gun?

 

[Cap]

re:the evils of technology,Would you rather be slaughtered with an axe, or shot in the chest with a gun?

I'm thinking not at all

 

[Chief]

I'm not thinking at all

EFA

Oh come on everyone... you know you wanted to do that!

 

[Peninsula Boy]

If we removed the ego, understood ourselves and used the consciousness, we would be a much more advanced civilisation.

The mind stifles but continues on at the lowest ebb of the intellect while the revolutionary ideals of the consiousness are unfortunately ignored.

 

[skilts]

If we removed the ego, understood ourselves and used the consciousness, we would be a much more advanced civilisation.

The mind stifles but continues on at the lowest ebb of the intellect while the revolutionary ideals of the consiousness are unfortunately ignored.

And these are what exactly?

 

[Niximus]

If we removed the ego, understood ourselves and used the consciousness, we would be a much more advanced civilisation.

The mind stifles but continues on at the lowest ebb of the intellect while the revolutionary ideals of the consiousness are unfortunately ignored.

We try, unfortunately we have people such as yourself who are so caught up in themselves that they are positive that they serve some kind of higher purpose, they invent mystical realities where they are the holder of knowledge and the people areound them the unenlightened mob.

 

[Generalissimo]

It has also held back technological advancement by quite a long time as well. Imagine if the Roman Empire didn't fall and Europe did't go into the dark ages, the world would be around 500 years more advanced than it is today.

Er, you're aware that religion did not cause the fall of the Roman Empire aren't you?

 

[Peninsula Boy]

We try, unfortunately we have people such as yourself who are so caught up in themselves that they are positive that they serve some kind of higher purpose, they invent mystical realities where they are the holder of knowledge and the people areound them the unenlightened mob.

I'm caught up in myself, know it and want to remove it completely from myself. I'm not positive - we should be realistic. I serve no higher purpose - we can all attain enlightenment - not everyone is interested in it. The mystical or esoteric reality is real. Just because you haven't experiences it, it doesn't mean it is not rea. Anyone can enter the realm although it takes time, patience and really hard work.

 

[RUNVS]

Er, you're aware that religion did not cause the fall of the Roman Empire aren't you?

Christians may not have caused the Roman Empire to fall but they were responsible for the dark ages.

 

[Andre]

Without technological advancement the human population would be MUCH less then it is today. Now whether you want to argue that's a good or bad thing is a different matter, but with technology there'd be a global population in the hundreds of millions at best. Certainly millions have died from wars and the technology employed, but that's vastly outweighed by the numbers who otherwise wouldn't have been born at all.

War or the drive for military superiority has been one of the key technological drivers throughout history. Directly or indirectly the technology developed for militaries have saved or allowed to be born many times more then they've killed.

I'll let geeks pick who I'm paraphrasing, but human history is on of violence, pitting groups against one another. The weaker die (or are conquered), but out of that the winners are stronger, more technologically advanced and mankind as a whole is better. 6000 odd years of killing, but look what's come out of it - Sonet's, we've split the atom, gone to the stars (or at least the moon), done a lot more good long term with war and technology then the short term evil of them.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

And these are what exactly?

It's best to explore it yourself.

Put aside your theories that get you nowhere and experience life and its mysteries.

 

[Niximus]

I'm caught up in myself, know it and want to remove it completely from myself. I'm not positive - we should be realistic. I serve no higher purpose - we can all attain enlightenment - not everyone is interested in it. The mystical or esoteric reality is real. Just because you haven't experiences it, it doesn't mean it is not rea. Anyone can enter the realm although it takes time, patience and really hard work.

You're going about it the wrong way. I can assure you. I have worked harder than you and I have the real truth. Just because you think you have experienced something, doesn't mean you have.

Your path will only drive you into a tighter tangle within your own ego.

 

[Niximus]

It's best to explore it yourself.

Put aside your theories that get you nowhere and experience life and its mysteries.

That's what I'm saying to you. Reject your false beliefs and life will open up to you. It is the truth and only the ego stops you from seeing it.

 

[Cap]

Christians may not have caused the Roman Empire to fall but they were responsible for the dark ages.

well there you go, Christians are responsible for the dark ages... you realise that the "dark ages" are only called that due to the lack of cultural and artist advancement through that period? I suppose your going to tell me that the Church suppressed the world and told us all the world was flat ?

I'd also say the technological advancements in warfare were perhaps an overriding factor

 

[Cap]

W

I'll let geeks pick who I'm paraphrasing, but human history is on of violence, pitting groups against one another. The weaker die (or are conquered), but out of that the winners are stronger, more technologically advanced and mankind as a whole is better. 6000 odd years of killing, but look what's come out of it - Sonet's, we've split the atom, gone to the stars (or at least the moon), done a lot more good long term with war and technology then the short term evil of them.

you think? how many people have gone into space compared to being slaughtered by the ability of a few to fly?

yay we split the atom...and killed a few hundred thousand people to prove it