Round 1 vs St.Kilda

[CAS79]

Charlie Gardiner didn't play, he was on Michael Gardiner.

Ahhh, Gehrrig and Blake pulled out.

Charlie Gardner played and Leo played on him.

 

[SouthSwans]

Ahhh well done Nat, got me covered haha

 

[nico]

I actually thought Leo did a very good job last night. He played attacking footy and didn't even get pinged for holding the ball once, which last year happened alot when he did all his weaving and stuff. Although he was playing on a much younger guy (C. Gardiner) he didn't get left behind, infact he was the one who was constantly breaking away and getting free.

Leo was ordinary. He got free and well in the clear but backtracked to for inside kick or handpass hence most of his disposals were under pressure. He handpassed to players under the pump and most times unnecessarily. It gets me how he can be so much on his own yet get himself into doibolical trouble. He deliberately ignored a player on the wing who was 100 yards in the clear, he looked in his direction but preferred to go across the ground the ground with a pi55y 20 metre pass to nothing.

He has no lateral vision and I suspect he didnt even see the player. Why doesn't he just put it to the square. Conclusion....thick as a brick.

 

[nico]

What happened to Bird?
He made that one mistake and then I didn't see him for the rest of the night?
Did roos put him on the bench for the rest of the night?

I think he got hurt when he tried to retrieve the situation after McVeigh squibbed it again. Right in front of me and inexcusable. Had a big look and allowed the STK player to take first to the ball position.

 

[Kramer1]

Leo Barry's retirement will be a joyfull occasion....

Wow. Not that I have followed you guys all that closely, but I would have given his perfomance last night a thumbs up. Thought you might have been in a lot more strife without him.

 

[natlovestheswans]

Leo was ordinary. He got free and well in the clear but backtracked to for inside kick or handpass hence most of his disposals were under pressure. He handpassed to players under the pump and most times unnecessarily. It gets me how he can be so much on his own yet get himself into doibolical trouble. He deliberately ignored a player on the wing who was 100 yards in the clear, he looked in his direction but preferred to go across the ground the ground with a pi55y 20 metre pass to nothing.

He has no lateral vision and I suspect he didnt even see the player. Why doesn't he just put it to the square. Conclusion....thick as a brick.

I don't agree. I think he did well with the majority of his disposals. I know at times he does put himself and his teammates under more pressure then need be, but i didn't feel that was the case last night. As for the incident you're talking about, i can't remember it so i can't comment. He does need to watch what he's doing though, he did go for the weave a few times last night and almost got himself in some trouble.

 

[nico]

Jude Bolton is not getting of the hook from me. So much for his more in and under declaration. Again didn't affect a centre clearance. Not a midfielders bum, 3 kicks 7 handpasses.

Changed his hair colour in the hope that people will not notice how crap he is.

How can any side go with this inept excuse of a footballer ahead of Jack, Moore and Bird at centre bounces or in the side at that.

Hardness, what a myth. He goes to ground with regular manotony and is often last to a pack on the ground. He overran the ball 3 times at centre bounces and clearly looked like he crapped himself.

That article about him not being unprofessional last year and fit and ready to go now appears to me to be a fluff piece by the club to try to motivate him, after giving him a pay rise. Unfit my rectum, he is no good.

 

[nico]

I don't agree. I think he did well with the majority of his disposals. I know at times he does put himself and his teammates under more pressure then need be, but i didn't feel that was the case last night. As for the incident you're talking about, i can't remember it so i can't comment. He does need to watch what he's doing though, he did go for the weave a few times last night and almost got himself in some trouble.

He went the weave every time and you clearly weren't watching the game to any level of analysis.

 

[natlovestheswans]

Jude Bolton is not getting of the hook from me. So much for his more in and under declaration. Again didn't affect a centre clearance. Not a midfielders bum, 3 kicks 7 handpasses.

Changed his hair colour in the hope that people will not notice how crap he is.

How can any side go with this inept excuse of a footballer ahead of Jack, Moore and Bird at centre bounces or in the side at that.

Hardness, what a myth. He goes to ground with regular manotony and is often last to a pack on the ground. He overran the ball 3 times at centre bounces and clearly looked like he crapped himself.

That article about him not being unprofessional last year and fit and ready to go now appears to me to be a fluff piece by the club to try to motivate him, after giving him a pay rise. Unfit my rectum, he is no good.

How about that pass in the centre of the ground in the last quarter? We were linking up, just about to run it straight through the centre of the ground to get it into our 50 and then Jude steps in and handpasses it straight to a Saints player, which resulted in Schneider marking it in the 50.

 

[SouthSwans]

Jude Bolton is not getting of the hook from me. So much for his more in and under declaration. Again didn't affect a centre clearance. Not a midfielders bum, 3 kicks 7 handpasses.

Changed his hair colour in the hope that people will not notice how crap he is.

How can any side go with this inept excuse of a footballer ahead of Jack, Moore and Bird at centre bounces or in the side at that.

Hardness, what a myth. He goes to ground with regular manotony and is often last to a pack on the ground. He overran the ball 3 times at centre bounces and clearly looked like he crapped himself.

That article about him not being unprofessional last year and fit and ready to go now appears to me to be a fluff piece by the club to try to motivate him, after giving him a pay rise. Unfit my rectum, he is no good.

Can't see how he's getting a game over Mathews, Benny at least has a job to do and does it well, he could've shut down Dal or Harvs last night as he has done every time against the Saints in the last 4-5 years. Jude is just a floater, people may call him in and under but he gets in there to lock in ball ups around the ground and can't keep up with reading the play and gets left behind until we lock it in again.

 

[natlovestheswans]

He went the weave every time and you clearly weren't watching the game to any level of analysis.

He went to weave about 3 times, but got away with it everytime. Well except maybe once. I can remember him weaving and then having to handball it back to someone under pressure. For me though, his attacking nature outweighs the other stuff. I rather have someone in the team who is attacking and taking risks then not attacking and just kicking it backwards constantly.

 

[SouthSwans]

A big problem I found last night having the view of the whole ground from the top of the dome is we just wait and wait and wait at half-back handballing around just effectively waiting for Saints to get back, and then when we decide to move we won't kick to a one on one. At a stage last night Goodes was one-on-one with Fisher about 30m out, 45 angle and we decided to kick to a triple-teamed Hall, direct Saints rebound. We've just got to move it along from half-back and kick to contests cause O'Keefe, Goodes, O'Loughlin, Davis, they can all mark. It's just frustrating.

 

[nico]

He went to weave about 3 times, but got away with it everytime. Well except maybe once. I can remember him weaving and then having to handball it back to someone under pressure. For me though, his attacking nature outweighs the other stuff. I rather have someone in the team who is attacking and taking risks then not attacking and just kicking it backwards constantly.

Didn't spot up too many players upfield.

 

[ChubbMuff]

Only saw the first quarter last night before I had to leave for a party (can you believe some people have their birthdays on the first night of footy?!?).

Its also frustrating to see our guys not wanting to play on quickly. I know they love pinpointing their passes, but by taking so long to dispose of the ball, they simply created heavy traffic for our forwards. I would have loved to see a one on one contest between Hall and his opponent rather than Hall with 3 saints around him, courtesy to our slow movement of the ball.

This was one of the most annoying things about what I saw - the sloth like pace of the ball to get through the defensive 50 and the centre. By the time it got anywhere near the forewards all the Saints were in there creating massive pressure. Credit to Lyons and all that but it needs to be sorted. The backs were doing their thing of creating pressure for themselves in and around the goal square - it's like watching a nightmare over and over again. Lacking any rebound as well, alot of the time they are just chipping across and backwards.

Cannot comment on the rest of the game, so if they improved then good on 'em. The Saints were all over us in the first quarter.

 

[Tuco]

Ugly stuff. But completely expected. I actually tipped against the Swans, and with the Saints errant kicking perhaps the scoreline flattered us. But you'd have to say with the kids on display and our usual slow pre-season build the intensity we showed at times was very promising. I thought Moore slotted right back in very nicely and Keiran's first half was exciting.

If we can add some polish to that intensity then maybe we can better our usual 2-3 start to a season for once. Fingers crossed.

ps: been a while since I've seen Hall chase his man for more than 10m. And just quietly seeing him applying pressure up the ground all game and still getting back in time to be a target was the best thing I saw all night. (Now if we can just convince him to a take a shot when he marks it 40 out directly in front rather than kicking it to a struggling rookie in a poor position we could be looking at an exciting year from the big fella).

 

[magic.merkin]

(Now if we can just convince him to a take a shot when he marks it 40 out directly in front rather than kicking it to a struggling rookie in a poor position we could be looking at an exciting year from the big fella).

i was in disbelief as well.

Though he did chase hard, his work ethic (or his body enabled him to this game)

 

[magic.merkin]

He went the weave every time and you clearly weren't watching the game to any level of analysis.

i think i upset some people. but your right, to fancy for his own good.

don't get me wrong the years with Leo have been great, he has played beyond his weight and height week in week out for years.

but his time is comming to an end. he can no longer take on players and try and spin off, he isn't quick enough. his decision making is poor alot of the time, there was a hospital handpass near the end out of our defensive 50 from him which put someone under immense pressure, stkilda made an easy contest and took the ball back in, so frustrating.

i must have been on my own liking the few glimpses i got of mattner. he's alot taller than i thought he would be.

 

[snappy]

On the back line, i thought Barry was ok, nico is right he doesnt continue with his run and go long, instead we stagnate,get con fused and turn the ball over.
Mattener was one i was expecting alot more from, i know its his first game, but hes been around alot longer than Jack. I hope he gets more involved we really need his run and carry.
Bevan well what can i say, i hope Laidlaw comes good soon..
Once again if you were at the game you could see how much harder the saints ran, and werent afraid to use it.
We simply arent taking the first option and its costing us big time. I couldnt believe the amount of times there were players breaking into space and were simply ignored because they didnt want to go to a 50/50 contest.
We have do counter floods and if we dont start backing ourselves we are going to see alot of games like last night.

 

[magic.merkin]

what was the descision against mattner late in the 3rd where he was going for a mark, and a stkilda player was running with the flight of the ball they collided and the stkilda player got a free?

 

[Maestro15]

I think Leo has proved his critics wrong, he didn't look slow and he gave us plenty of opportunities running out of defence

 

[SouthSwans]

what was the descision against mattner late in the 3rd where he was going for a mark, and a stkilda player was running with the flight of the ball they collided and the stkilda player got a free?

Was very high contact.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

The highlight for Sydney was clearly the performance of Jack. His bump on Xavier Clarke was brilliant.

Craig Bird looks a long way off though. I think most here are expecting too much of a guy who was passed over by every team in the comp.

 

[Kildonan]

I agree with MSG here, I love a new recruit to show skills - Jack's kicking was superb - better than many experienced players. He will be a gun.

Bad Luck re: close match

The Swans never actually got to the lead, but any match with a margin of 2 points could have gone either way.

 

[RUNVS]

I agree with MSG here, I love a new recruit to show skills - Jack's kicking was superb - better than many experienced players. He will be a gun.

Bad Luck re: close match

The Swans never actually got to the lead, but any match with a margin of 2 points could have gone either way.

Yes but unfortunately in recent years the close matches have always gone the other way.

 

[ssfc0203]

The highlight for Sydney was clearly the performance of Jack. His bump on Xavier Clarke was brilliant.

Craig Bird looks a long way off though. I think most here are expecting too much of a guy who was passed over by every team in the comp.

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Bird was a NSW Scholarship holder with Sydney.