Autopsy Round 10, 2025: Suns get it done against plucky Hawks

[TylerDurden]

Nash wasn’t available due to the vagaries of the MRO. Any other miscalculation like his has received 3 or less. 4 was a joke.
Agreed we probably could’ve rested Meek against WC or Richmond

4 was an absolute stitch up.

 

[CobberRodgers]

4 was an absolute stitch up.

If we played West Coast instead of GC this week it would have been 3, I’m so sure of this

 

[cuttlefish]

I presume you mean 'not a good look'. Surely no one thought he'd be there barracking for us - not at this point - deep hurt and estrangements take a lot of time to heal. If they ever do.

Looks like he got to chat to a few Hawks past and present and enjoy a cracking game. I'm glad he was there, even if it was to support his cousin - who played brilliantly btw. He didn't carry on madly cheering for the Suns, he just smiled and clapped. Not a big story to my mind. In some small way being there could help soothe the rift, you never know.

Cyril's a Hawks legend. Luv him. Great human, too.

 

[grumbleguts]

Looks like the graphics department called it a tie between Newc and CJ

 

[Leather Poisoning]

4 was an absolute stitch up.

Yep - When Merrett got zero and Nash got 4.

You'd think thoses two acts were much closer together in terms of what we want to stamp out of the game

 

[Fleabane]

Cyril's a Hawks legend. Luv him. Great human, too.

Yes, he was my favourite player of that era along with Luke Hodge.

 

[Del33640]

Correct there on newk.
And right now, that’s part of our problem/challenge.
Newk is our best midfielder, by far, right now.
Worps is a great wingman, down by his standards though last night. Still a gun though.
Beyond that, Frenchie and Ward have been really good thus far, but they are 21 year old kids still learning the caper.
We miss Day and to a lesser degree Nash, but I’m sure Sammy is working on getting another A grader into the mix.
It’s another piece to the premiership puzzle.

The A-graders we need are already there in 5th line of this paragraph.

They might not be ready to play like A-graders consistently until next year, or 2027 though.

Makes getting Day right for finals this year a non-negotiable. Lot of chips riding on his rehab.

If we get a player in through trade or free agency short term, it's got to be a bang for buck A-grader or an absolute match winner.

Will create a crunch for midfield spots moving forward though, and Ward and Mackenzie both deserve a long run at theirs based on what they've shown this year.

 

[Newmo89]

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[Blackhawk42]

Maybe unnoticed but that was one of the best individual midfield games by a player this season by Newk. So much so that , dimma had miller go to him in the last qtr. Colossal effort to take suns midfielders on almost on his own.
Amon should be in consideration for AA , having a super season. Love Scrimshaw and Ward keeps improving to the point where, this time next year, he could be a blue chip mid.

Newk: 29 touches, 8 tackles, 1 goal
Rowell: 29 touches, 9 tackles

It was an old school midfield battle for the ages between two bulls.

A pleasure to watch.

Thought Newk was better over 4 quarters.
Rowell had 2 handballs and literally nothing else in the second quarter.

 

[Rowie6]

Frost could play on Rayner or Cameron too, which might be needed if Hardwick plays as a forward.

I would bring Seamus in before Frost Ball.
Shammy has been knocking the door down with his form.
While Frosty has not and also I think we need more zip out of our back half.

I have no concept of why games are not given on form.
Shammy,Max Ramsden and Bodie Ryan are currently knocking on that door.
While I love Calsh very much his form at Box Hill probably did not deserve a call up.

 

[Rowie6]

Big call but he's a better kick than Sis and more consistent, lasers 40-50 metres passes with ease. More physical than Sis as well particularly ATM, I'd give Sis a rest more so a mental break from footy to get whatever is bothering him out of his system. I get we need our captain these next stretch of games but not if he's going to be a liability and we have to hide him on the field. He's groin is an issue too so use this period to get him right physically and mentally. We have enough leaders on the field I think to cover his absence.

Yes we have really missed Schrima!
Especially with Sicily not playing to his usual standards.
There was one piece of play where Scrim was running back with the flight of the ball and in my head I was yelling out Nooooo!

 

[Rowie6]

Most premiership teams have players playing who aren’t in the most talented or capable 22 - 25 on the list, but they end up playing because they are good at their role.

Remember Jonathan Simpkin? Or Matt Spangher? Or Taylor Duryea? Or Ryan Schoenmakers?

All have premiership medals and none were game breaking superstars. They just played their role at the right time and helped the team win games.

Has been the case for 125 years.

We could well win a flag this year and Morrison is more likely to be playing than not.

Taylor Duryea has played over 200 games a beautiful left foot and one of our only 4 premiership players still in the game.
I think he has been more than just a role player.

 

[Coathanger]

I would bring Seamus in before Frost Ball.
Shammy has been knocking the door down with his is form.
While Frosty has not and also I think we need more zip out of our back half.

I have no concept of why games are not given on form.
Shammy,Max Ramsden and Bodie Ryan are currently knocking on that door.
While I love Calsh very much his form at Box Hill probably did not deserve a call up.

Because there is a huge difference between the door at Box Hill and the door at Waverley.

 

[grumbleguts]

Taylor Duryea has played over 200 games a beautiful left foot and one of our only 4 premiership players still in the game.
I think he has been more than just a role player?

I suppose he wasn't a role player, unless his role was to turn it over in the defensive 50

 

[Rowie6]

Because there is a huge difference between the door at Box Hill and the door at Waverley.

That does not make sense!

 

[JD1992]

Everything is easy in hindsight.
Ramsden instead of Dear, Allows Weddle to be either fwd or back rather than pinch hit ruck. Which then can flow through to other parts of the game, and also saving his tank as well.
Worpel quickly looked like he was to worried about his man in centre ballups, rather than ball and holding position.
As been mentioned plenty already Nash would of been a different maker in middle. There is average centre clearances, then ther is good centre clearances. What nash can do is convert opposition good clearances to average, and also creates more turnovers/halving of conests within the centre.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Wish we would jump a team in the first. Starting slow for whatever reason. Don't think the coaching department is getting them as gee'd up as they should be.

think the only time we did that this year was the Essendon game
WOuld have been the WCE one if we kicked straight

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Everything is easy in hindsight.
Ramsden instead of Dear, Allows Weddle to be either fwd or back rather than pinch hit ruck. Which then can flow through to other parts of the game, and also saving his tank as well.
Worpel quickly looked like he was to worried about his man in centre ballups, rather than ball and holding position.
As been mentioned plenty already Nash would of been a different maker in middle. There is average centre clearances, then ther is good centre clearances. What nash can do is convert opposition good clearances to average, and also creates more turnovers/halving of conests within the centre.

Ramsden just doesn't compete physically, he gets bullied. That's been evident every time he's played in the Seniors - granted he hasn't had a chance this season.

We at least know (a fitter) Dear excels in that area.

 

[triple treat]

A little observation from being at the game on Thursday ( 1st one for a very long time) I thought Newcomb when he was coming off the ground for a spell was really pounding the turf ( look heavy), where as other players were just sprinting straight off. He’s obviously very fit and is playing at a high quality level but I wonder if he dropped a few kilos of muscle ( like Worps did a couple of years ago), he might take his game to an even higher level.

 

[Stratton_Gun]

But late to share my thoughts but they are as follows

. Was surprised to see clearances so even at the stats. I think the difference was when they won it, it was clean and went to a goal while ours was not that. Need to get better in this area.
. Dear could not have been brought into a worse game when you haven't played AFL in 9 months. Due to this, barely touched it before being sub
. Umpires were better for Suns but you expect that in interstate games and probably didn't effect the result. Very frustrating that they only called our throws though
. Barrass was a beast and would have been further behind without him. Let's hope Battle comes up ok
.Reeves beaten but thought he did as much as he could have been expected to do. Not sure we would have won if Meek was in
. Swallow turns into a super sub whenever he plays last. Last time he kicked a few at least from memory and Thursday he was banging them from outside the pack to goals. Very frustrating
. Cmac been very poor since back from injury. Not sure he's a lock before Breust currently although Breust hasn't been any better
. We need a quality small defender. Hardwick is a good player but when moved forward we have none to lock down and please don't mention Seamus who is not AFL standard

 

[HedgeFund]

Taylor Duryea has played over 200 games a beautiful left foot and one of our only 4 premiership players still in the game.
I think he has been more than just a role player.

Never polled a single Brownlow vote.

Never finished in the PCM top 10.

A very solid role player who has 2 well deserved premiership medals because he did his job with minimal fuss.

Reminds me of Harry in that regard.

 

[CHUBBSS]

Thought we had a good chance to get the win and it didn’t work out, probably a few things the coaches could have done but Darwin was going to be hard no matter what. The wiz is a genuine superstar, he looked on from the first touch and basically put the team on his back to get us back into it.

I think we’re a bit unbalanced in a range of areas, but maybe they’re not so noticeable with a better midfield squad.

Just keep pumping midfield time into ward because he could be the difference come finals.