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Autopsy Round 5, 2025: Hawks refuse to join Gather Round

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Definitely a factor but it’s still our inability to drive the ball and create separation when it’s not working for us that will be the difference in close finals, if we can only play our best on one size ground it means we have to finish top 2 or its all up to luck.

I think Lewis and dear offer something we don’t have that can help this but it won’t be up to them to move the ball.

I actually think this was a good loss in a lot of ways, we don’t get to hide and we know exactly what we need.

Day, Scrimshaw, McDonald, dear are more important then ever, funny how much on field leadership they all create.
Day and Scrimshaw are very important leaders for our defenders and mids.
Dear adds intensity at the contest, in the air and ground.
...and we have missed MacDonald's dynamism/versatility.

This team is still young and missing 4 best 22 players was always going to have an impact, sooner or later.

Obv Day is the most important player of the 4.
 
I find it really strange, I've never seen anything like it in sports.

I think people misconstrued the selfies and goal celebrations last year for disrespecting the opposition or something.

It's all just very odd.

I'm glad we finally get them in Tassie in R19.
It’s an Aussie tall poppy thing. It’s quite toxic and embarrassing.
 
I don’t understand why we didn’t play HH in this game. It send two bad messages to the group:
1) you can perform at an average level and hold your spot as long as the team is winning
2) you can be consistently awesome at VFL but that’s not enough to get an opportunity. Surely that would be demotivating for the group.
 

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Well, I for one would honestly hate it!

For one thing, it would do us no good because he's no chance to accept given his family have a poisoned view of the club which he clearly has bought into. He's not going to want anything to do with us.

And what exactly would we do in the highly unlikely event that he did accept?! Take him on a tour of Dingley? Show him Jeff's life membership plaque and tell him his family are all wrong about us and we are really very nice people and he shouldn't listen to them?!!

We don't need this guy's approval. Who is he to us? I wouldn't even have recognised him before this incident. Let him hate. He pulled his tweet. Best just let it go and everyone move on, I reckon.

In life, it’s always best to lead with curiosity and empathy, even if it doesn’t get you the outcome you’d expect.
 
I don’t understand why we didn’t play HH in this game. It send two bad messages to the group:
1) you can perform at an average level and hold your spot as long as the team is winning
2) you can be consistently awesome at VFL but that’s not enough to get an opportunity. Surely that would be demotivating for the group.
agreed, although dropping Ward or cam who had been playing well for hh at that point would send a certain message too
 
We played like garbage but this isn’t the first time port have pulled this sort of win off.

How inconsistent of a club have they been under Ken? Imagine having a 200 point sliding scale of margin week to week. They could genuinely win or lose any game by 90 points and I wouldn’t be that surprised.
 
I don’t understand why we didn’t play HH in this game. It send two bad messages to the group:
1) you can perform at an average level and hold your spot as long as the team is winning
2) you can be consistently awesome at VFL but that’s not enough to get an opportunity. Surely that would be demotivating for the group.
Serong has been great for 2 years. Why aren't you asking for his inclusion?
 
I don’t understand why we didn’t play HH in this game. It send two bad messages to the group:
1) you can perform at an average level and hold your spot as long as the team is winning
2) you can be consistently awesome at VFL but that’s not enough to get an opportunity. Surely that would be demotivating for the group.

this is nonsense sorry.

who does HH replace after round 4?
 
1) you can perform at an average level and hold your spot as long as the team is winning
2) you can be consistently awesome at VFL but that’s not enough to get an opportunity. Surely that would be demotivating for the group.

We were 4 and zip.

Who deserves to get dropped after being 4 and zip?
 

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Jeez...what's going

Jeez...what's going on?

Unfortunately I reckon he's copped an unacceptable amount of racial vilification on social media. Fans angry after a loss, he's disrespected one of our players in said loss, and he's openly stated he hates the club. Tribalism was always going to take an ugly turn.
 
Unfortunately I reckon he's copped an unacceptable amount of racial vilification on social media. Fans angry after a loss, he's disrespected one of our players in said loss, and he's openly stated he hates the club. Tribalism was always going to take an ugly turn.

That sucks if it’s our fans. Nothing over the top from him and deleted soon after
 

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Unfortunately I reckon he's copped an unacceptable amount of racial vilification on social media. Fans angry after a loss, he's disrespected one of our players in said loss, and he's openly stated he hates the club. Tribalism was always going to take an ugly turn.
if this is true, anyone who took part in any sort of racist pile-on needs to be called out and where possible, banned from the club. Unacceptable
 
What a weird time for Willie to post a crack about those events and his day's time at the club. Think it's really poor, and the coco club stuff is really really poor.



The Club will get blamed for the Kennedy assassination next
I don't think Willie Rioli has ever been told anything positive about the Hawthorn Football Club.

Sadly we will never see Cyril Rioli at Hawthorn again. This is genuinely really sad for all concerned.
 

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Autopsy Round 5, 2025: Hawks refuse to join Gather Round

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