Running bounce 15m vs Paid mark 15m

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I love the bounce but they never pay running too far. It might as well be removed.
They paid one Friday night actually. The hawks player (gunston maybe?) ran 3 of those lawn cut marks which are 9m wide. So he ran 27m before the ump decided he'd run too far.

They shouldn't get rid of it. It's a skill to run and bounce the ball. They need to sort it out though. OP is spot on in the ridiculousness of the rules.
 

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Should just make them both 20 m ... would entice more daring run and eliminate the 11 meter bulls..t kick to mark .
You wouldn't be as upset if a 17-19 meter pass was paid and it would be easier to penalize a 22 meter gallop as it is obvious to the eye .
 

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Penalised Collingwood and cost them a goal for not kicking 15m on Friday night, but then the 10m kicks became acceptable after that...
 

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Should just make them both 20 m ... would entice more daring run and eliminate the 11 meter bulls..t kick to mark .
You wouldn't be as upset if a 17-19 meter pass was paid and it would be easier to penalize a 22 meter gallop as it is obvious to the eye .
Agree with this, players are chipping 10m passes across the backline like its soccer without being pinged for it
 

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To be fair to the umpire in the Clayton Oliver (not paid for too far), it was his first game and he probably doesn't know it's a free kick. It seems umpires start off with a basic knowledge of free kicks and then pick the rest up as they go along. Surely the umpire would have known it was too far because he was running along side him. I think some of the Melbourne players even had their arms outstretched as well appealing for a free kick to be paid.
 

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To be fair to the umpire in the Clayton Oliver (not paid for too far), it was his first game and he probably doesn't know it's a free kick. It seems umpires start off with a basic knowledge of free kicks and then pick the rest up as they go along. Surely the umpire would have known it was too far because he was running along side him. I think some of the Melbourne players even had their arms outstretched as well appealing for a free kick to be paid.
First game? By the time someone umpires their first AFL game they’ll have done about 300 or so games of umpiring, it’s no excuse
 

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Should just make them both 20 m ... would entice more daring run and eliminate the 11 meter bulls..t kick to mark .
You wouldn't be as upset if a 17-19 meter pass was paid and it would be easier to penalize a 22 meter gallop as it is obvious to the eye .
As opposed to a 20 metre run or a 24 metre run.... It's all guess work, thats the fundamental problem with a lot of the AFL rules.
 

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All the players have GPS trackers, throw one on the ball as well, easily done. Beep when a kick gives over 15m, different beep when a player runs 15m, umpire to track the ball bounce. Player tracker goes off when in close proximity of ball & over 5km/h movement.
 

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Years ago (April fools segment shot at Junction Oval), they were having trouble with umpires hearing the siren so Channel 7 did a report on putting a small bomb in the ball. When the siren went, the bomb went off and the ball blew up. If it was on it's way to scoring, bad luck, ball blew up.

Bit harder to do with the 15 metre rule but a bloody good idea. Run too far - Ball blows up. Get tackled, don't get rid of it - Ball blows up. Ball crosses goal line - Ball blows up. Umpire bounces ball badly - Umpire blows up.
 
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They have two different tape measures for paying a mark, let alone these two rules. There was a point in North v Saints last week where we had a kick in from a behind. Tarrant kicked the ball out, barely 15m, but it was paid a mark. He then didn't move, got the ball kicked back to him and that was deemed not 15.
 

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They have two different tape measures for paying a mark, let alone these two rules. There was a point in North v Saints last week where we had a kick in from a behind. Tarrant kicked the ball out, barely 15m, but it was paid a mark. He then didn't move, got the ball kicked back to him and that was deemed not 15.
Might be easier to just say they guess, with no consistency between them
 
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