Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

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The Murder of Rebecca Young - Ballarat

The Murder of Hannah McGuire - Ballarat * Lachie Young

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Lachie Young

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

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6.4

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

220.3

3star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

210.0

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

219.6

4star

charged



Allegedly

 

[Zidane98]

Thanks.

Funny, I never used to worry about fire in Melbourne, even living in timber homes for many years. Now living in a rural area, it's at the back of my mind all year round, even in winter thinking what else can you improve around the property to reduce the risk.

Still loving the lifestyle though!

We've had two pretty wet summers in a row. When we have a dry one undergrowth is going to be like a tinderbox.

 

[Athena]

I've watch 11 billion and 3 American true crime documentaries and here's how it commonly plays out.

Nice Mum tells Nice Dad I want a divorce.

Nice Dad gets angry because Nice Dad is about to lose his business, possibly his house and children as well.

Nice Dad has some connections with some nefarious people through his business.

Nice Dad asks these people if they know of anyone that could make Nice Mum disappear for a price.

Nice Dad is told there is and is given a price which is significantly cheaper than losing everything he owns.

Nice Dad gives these people the go ahead and also the daily routine of Nice Mum.

Naughty people wait for Nice Mum on one of these routine days and are able to bundle her into a car.

The End

Nice Mum didn't go on her annual family holiday "due to covid". Daughter in press release begged the Nice Mum to come home as though it was believed she'd left the home of her own accord (have a listen to her speech). Nice Dad acting bizarre too.

But doesn't appear to be a suspect and "ruled out at present".

 

[Zing13]

But doesn't appear to be a suspect and "ruled out at present".

Ruled out as not knowing where she ended up but maybe not ruled out as the one who organised the disappearance?

 

[Zidane98]

Appear to have found something here and they are letting the media film them.....

 

[Zidane98]

Ruled out as not knowing where she ended up but maybe not ruled out as the one who organised the disappearance?

Ruled out means just that. Not involved in the disappearance.

 

[Zidane98]

Another thing, it is now widely reported Sam told her family she was going on a 14km run, she left at 7am.


As Mt Clear is 7km away that would be the return point. Meaning it possible she stopped there for a bit before heading back home. Maybe this is when the perp struck.

 

[Lady O]

Appear to have found something here and they are letting the media film them.....

 

[Zidane98]

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Is that something with blood on it? Hard to tell.

 

[Smoooothy]

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is that a piece of chewing gum?

 

[Zidane98]

The impression I get from today's search is that they are searching a defined area rather than conducting a large scale line search. Of course actual reality may be different but if that were to be the case they must definitely have a hot lead.

 

[Lady O]

is that a piece of chewing gum?

Looks like a little brass pinion.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Appear to have found something here and they are letting the media film them.....

Yeah, interesting media proximity.

Did they find something, or did they intimate they found something? More pressure on a suspect?

 

[dumb]

i always have half a thought for faking own death when doing personal solo activities outside the home. very easy to disappear without a trace if you've got a life lined up somewhere else.
but, also very easy to 'take care of someone' if their solo routine is regular and predictable.

 

[31550]

Yeah, interesting media proximity.

Did they find something, or did they intimate they found something? More pressure on a suspect?

Looks staged to me. Note the point where the policewoman motions another officer over, then touches him on the arm? Like, yeah just stand exactly there for the camera shot.

 

[shorsky]

Looks staged to me. Note the point where the policewoman motions another officer over, then touches him on the arm? Like, yeah just stand exactly there for the camera shot.

I thought that was an attempt to block the view, then I saw the other camera person !

 

[geoffjennings79]

Looks staged to me. Note the point where the policewoman motions another officer over, then touches him on the arm? Like, yeah just stand exactly there for the camera shot.

Yeah, was thinking the same. Not hard for such a small "item" to be in the forensic guys hand BEFORE he "found" it.

 

[FrankGrimes]

i always have half a thought for faking own death when doing personal solo activities outside the home. very easy to disappear without a trace if you've got a life lined up somewhere else.
but, also very easy to 'take care of someone' if their solo routine is regular and predictable.

Very easy? It’s farkin hard these days, what do you live on? You need a shitload of $$$$$,

 

[geoffjennings79]

Very easy? It’s farkin hard these days, what do you live on? You need a shitload of $$$$$,

Well if you've played a long game, pre-planned for years, had an alias and other family (spouse #2 with kids) in another town, 2 x remote-ish jobs working largely online...

I'm just spit-balling of course...

 

[dumb]

Very easy? It’s farkin hard these days, what do you live on? You need a shitload of $$$$$,

hence my 'if you've got a life lined up elsewhere' line. you could lay the groundwork if you wanted to.

 

[FrankGrimes]

hence my 'if you've got a life lined up elsewhere' line. you could lay the groundwork if you wanted to.

How to you do that? Go to local shops and get fake Medicare and car licence?
Don’t think it’s that easy to line up your life with all this stuff as you said.

 

[dumb]

How to you do that? Go to local shops and get fake Medicare and car licence?
Don’t think it’s that easy to line up your life with all this stuff as you said.

i agree, not easy. but people can take some steps toward it, whatever they are.

 

[GrayRanga]

Yeah, interesting media proximity.

Did they find something, or did they intimate they found something? More pressure on a suspect?

I think they have a person of interest and theyre doing the wonnagatta trick to force some action.

Police don't show evidence like that

 

[Zidane98]

How to you do that? Go to local shops and get fake Medicare and car licence?
Don’t think it’s that easy to line up your life with all this stuff as you said.

Fake licensed / Medicare are nigh on impossible these days even with paying insiders off.

Disappearing within Australia is not a realistic proposition unless one were to live a remote lifestyle with endless supply of cash.

Probably easier to disappear overseas.

 

[geoffjennings79]

...unless one were to live a remote lifestyle with endless supply of cash.

Like an AFL player based in western Sydney? (Sorry, couldn't resist!)

 

[mrskafoops]

Mistaken identity would mean another person is in danger and appears a bit of a stretch because if someone is being targeted you'd think the perpetrator would know the victim's address, movements in detail etc. Unless incompetent.

Tied to business would suggest money motives, unless there was a ransom demand I don't see how that makes sense.

Family member/friend...why would anybody attack a loved one?

Only scenario I can think of is perhaps a lover who was rejected but surely that's not a motive to attack someone. Husband would be the one with the most to lose in that kind of scenario but he appears not to be a suspect.

Incompetent haha .. you reminded me of this story. According to the Gary Jubelin podcast this dude actually lent the suitcase to the cops to put some clothes etc in when they were investigating his wifes murder. The suitcase had the body of his girlfriend in it... like he would have forgotten that.

Edwin Street suffocated his wife Dawn in their Annandale home before dumping her body at a creek near Wollstonecraft; three months later, Street stabbed his girlfriend Linda Whitton, whose body was found inside a suitcase at Whitton's home in Enmore on 23 February 1994 when the home was searched by police. Street was convicted of both murders and sentenced to two consecutive terms of life imprisonment without parole;