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Although maybe a little nit pick that some stuff in the final episode didn't stay true to the actual story but I guess every show or movie based on real life is guilty of that.
 

Obvious cash-in by FX in a lot of respects, but Hiroyuki Sanada (who produced, as as well as playing Toranaga) seems to be genuinely invested in making sure it's high quality and true to the Japanese history and culture.
 
As much as I would love for it to be a stand alone, greediness wants at least a season 2. Which focuses on the war battles would be sick.
The show is based on a book by James Clavell. He wrote several books set in Asia, but none of the others are related to the Shogun storyline. It's possible they may try to come up with their own story for a 2nd season, but it's unlikely.

He did write a trilogy of books following the Struan clan - Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, and Noble House. The first & last are set in Hong Kong, the middle book in Japan (albeit 200+ years after Shogun).

Then there's Whirlwind (set in Iran), and King Rat (set in a WWII POW camp in Singapore), neither of which are connected to the other books (other than being set in Asia).

Shogun & Noble House were previously made into mini-series in the 1980s. Shogun starred Richard Chamberlain as Blackthorne, while Noble House starred Pierce Brosnan. The Shogun mini-series was by far the better of the two.

I would like to see Tai-Pan and Gai-Jin made into TV series.
 
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I've seen on X that Season 2 is confirmed with the return of Hiroyuki Sanada playing Yoshii Toranaga
Interesting, given that the writers will have to come up with all of it themselves. Clavell only wrote the material used in S1.

Hopefully the Shogun writers do a better job than the Game of Thrones writers did, after they overtook their source material.
 
Ideally, they would have adapted Shogun into two seasons from the jump.

The Leftovers is a similar comp. Seasons two and three were complete inventions, and were practically perfect seasons of television. Most of the cast carried over though, so the degree of difficulty here is going to be high. Keen to seem them try though.
 
The show is based on a book by James Clavell. He wrote several books set in Asia, but none of the others are related to the Shogun storyline. It's possible they may try to come up with their own story for a 2nd season, but it's unlikely.

He did write a trilogy of books following the Struan clan - Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, and Noble House. The first & last are set in Hong Kong, the middle book in Japan (albeit 200+ years after Shogun).

Then there's Whirlwind (set in Iran), and King Rat (set in a WWII POW camp in Singapore), neither of which are connected to the other books (other than being set in Asia).

Shogun & Noble House were previously made into mini-series in the 1980s. Shogun starred Richard Chamberlain as Blackthorne, while Noble House starred Pierce Brosnan. The Shogun mini-series was by far the better of the two.

I would like to see Tai-Pan and Gai-Jin made into TV series.

Actually, "Whirlwind" was a direct continuation of the Struan family's story; in that several characters were from "Noble House" and the British company in Iran was a Struan holding. "King Rat" and "Noble House" also had some common characters.

I recently watched the Richard Chamberlain "Shogun" series and agree it's better than the Pierce Brosnan "Noble House". The problem with the latter is that all the drama is around the world of business and finance. Battles and political intrigue are much more interesting.

There was also a movie of "Tai-Pan" with Bryan Brown in the title role. It was fairly forgettable.

I'm halfway through the 2024 "Shogun" remake and thoroughly enjoying it. Cosmo Jarvis' voice sounds almost exactly like Richard Burton's.

One thing I dislike is the idiotic euphemism of "pillowing". It's straight out of Clavell's writing and I always though it silly that 17th century Japanese, 19th century Hong Kong Brits and Chinese, and 20th century Brits and Chinese all use the same term for sex.
 

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Interesting, given that the writers will have to come up with all of it themselves. Clavell only wrote the material used in S1.

Hopefully the Shogun writers do a better job than the Game of Thrones writers did, after they overtook their source material.

While Clavell's material is done, there's a fair bit to work with in the real life inspirations for Toranaga and Blackthorne.

 
I started this last night and watched about 40 minutes of ep 1. Is it extremely hard to follow or am I slow? I struggle at the best of times with keeping up with what's going on in TV and Movies and can't really handle shows that require constant attention and if you look away you'll lose track kinds of material. No I don't use my phone when I'm watching, my brain is probably just cooked from work and years of alcohol abuse.

To me it seems like 650 names were dropped and I struggled to piece together who was who.
 
I started this last night and watched about 40 minutes of ep 1. Is it extremely hard to follow or am I slow? I struggle at the best of times with keeping up with what's going on in TV and Movies and can't really handle shows that require constant attention and if you look away you'll lose track kinds of material. No I don't use my phone when I'm watching, my brain is probably just cooked from work and years of alcohol abuse.

To me it seems like 650 names were dropped and I struggled to piece together who was who.
The first few episodes demand a lot of the viewer. Almost all of the dialog is in Japanese, so you have to keep reading the subtitles - which doesn't allow you to zone out, like you can with most TV shows. There are a lot of characters who are introduced, and it takes a while to figure out who is who in the zoo. It's definitely worth persevering with.
 
I started this last night and watched about 40 minutes of ep 1. Is it extremely hard to follow or am I slow? I struggle at the best of times with keeping up with what's going on in TV and Movies and can't really handle shows that require constant attention and if you look away you'll lose track kinds of material. No I don't use my phone when I'm watching, my brain is probably just cooked from work and years of alcohol abuse.

To me it seems like 650 names were dropped and I struggled to piece together who was who.

What Vader said. Just go with the flow for the first few episodes then things will get clearer as it goes on. Episodes 1 and 2 only really made sense to me when I rewatched them after finishing the whole show.
 
I started this last night and watched about 40 minutes of ep 1. Is it extremely hard to follow or am I slow? I struggle at the best of times with keeping up with what's going on in TV and Movies and can't really handle shows that require constant attention and if you look away you'll lose track kinds of material. No I don't use my phone when I'm watching, my brain is probably just cooked from work and years of alcohol abuse.

To me it seems like 650 names were dropped and I struggled to piece together who was who.

Watch a youtube episode recap after every episode you watch!

Some youtubers are really great at finding stuff in scenes most people would miss.
 

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