Star Wars Star Wars: The Last Jedi - THREAD PART 2 - *SPOILERS and RUMORS*

[King Elvis]

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…..ummmmm what?

So Luke wasn't already a hero/legend before TLJ?

Tosser.

 

[glenferry23]

It doesn’t help that it’s been stripped of context by being taken from the middle of a conversation, presumably to suit some agenda or otherwise. But it appears to me he’s rejecting the accusations of some that he just wanted to tear Luke down but instead was seeking to immortalise him in a more appropriate way. The stripping away of Luke’s character was in the greater good and the most interesting part of the process for him.

And it was the right thing to do. It seems to a lot of fans, Luke is a quasi superhero, carving through nameless enemies and designing the galaxy in his image. Luke saving the day in TLJ without laying a finger on Kylo is far more in keeping with the character in ROTJ than the Luke racking up casualties in the Mandalorian (for someone who claims to understand Star Wars as much as anyone, Filoni was engaging in poorly written fan fiction with that scene). He wanted to get to the essential part of what makes Luke inspiring to future generations and it’s not cool lightsaber moves.

Based on that snippet of the conversation, I’m sure the full version of the interview is a real page turner.

 

[edgie]

Page turners, they were not


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[Gasometer]

I’ve read that quote a few times and still no idea what he’s trying to say.

Recently sat through these films again as my boys wanted to see them. Really wasn’t looking forward to it, as TLJ has very little rewatch-ability and knowing what comes after it in TROS essentially makes whatever it was trying to do redundant.

Was quite a chore to get through, waiting for ships to run out of fuel, ******* hell. Only a couple of redeeming moments really, the score when Luke appears on Crait is still great overall the movie is an enourmous letdown and such a missed opportunity.

Have barely thought about it since, for me it’s in the film category of “let’s pretend that didn’t actually happen”. Next.

Leia Mary Poppins moment?

Wat did they think of that?

I reckon it killed 40 years of science fiction for me that moment

 

[glenferry23]

Leia Mary Poppins moment?

Wat did they think of that?

I reckon it killed 40 years of science fiction for me that moment

Yeah they were wondering what the hell was going on, as was I haha. There are many contenders in that film where you wonder wtf jut happened.

For me I can't go past that scene on Crait with Finn about to take down the cannon. Clearly they didn't know what to do with the Finn character, I feel for John Boyega. He largely repeats the same arc from TFA in trying to run away. As he's about to fly into the cannon I thought holy s**t, this is epic, but then of course just another case of subversion! Rose saves him, says he loves him, the cannon fires and takes out dozens of their colleagues, ******* hell.

One of the worst sequences in SW I've ever seen. Even now years after reflecting on it, I can only chuckle that yes, that actually happened. As I have said before, genuinely feel sorry for Kellie Marie Tran to have been given that material to work with. Ridiculous stuff.

 

[Exe Gesis]

All the while on set, Rian Johnson giggled with delight at each of those ridiculous scenes ... Luke drinking milk, Rey knocking Luke down, Leia flying thru space, Rey and Kylo having finger touching sex, Rose kissing Finn while the base gets destroyed, Poe trolling Hux, etc.

Taking great enjoyment at taking the piss at SW and its own sense of sincerity.

 

[JackOutback]

Hamill has said he "fundamentally" disagreed with Rian Johnson, and the director has now reflected on their difference of opinion while talking to Empire Magazine.

"I’m choosing my words carefully, not to be diplomatic, but I don’t want to frame Mark’s experience of this through my lens because there’s no possible way I can ever put myself in the shoes of Mark, or Carrie [Fisher], having lived their entire lives being known as these characters. And what it’s like to play them first in their twenties, and then to come back and play them in these movies and have a script handed to you saying, 'Well, it’s this now...' I can never fathom what that experience is like. It’s impossible."

"If Mark Hamill is talking to me about Luke Skywalker, I’m gonna listen to him, and I gotta think about that and argue with him and go back and forth. And genuinely plumb the depths of my soul and what I wrote and figure out if this seems right. Also, though, remembering that, obviously, he created the character on screen, but he’s Mark Hamill, he’s not literally Luke Skywalker. Luke Skywalker lives as a creation on that screen. He’s a myth."

"And as such, he only really lives in the minds of people who listen to and in various ways believe that myth. And I know that was me. So, it’s complicated. But I mean, the short answer to your question is, it was f***ing terrifying. For all the back and forth, on day one of shooting, Mark said, 'Okay, this is the vision that you’re going for, and I’m going to do the best version of that I possibly can.'"

 

[Exe Gesis]

tl;dr.....mark isnt luke, * him and his perception of luke, i wrote the script, the character, the way i want i to be, hes paid to act it.

 

[glenferry23]

He sure does the word “myth” doesn’t he.

 

[edgie]

Mark Hamill didn't create Luke Skywalker.

Neither did you you s**t you just work for people who are rich enough to afford the rights to him.

Lol can you imagine if this guy directed Han Solo? Harrison Ford would have legit old man punched him in his puffy face.

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[edgie]

All of Harrison, Mark, and Carrie spent years taking the piss out of George and making jokes at him/about him. And he was ok with it.

No sequel cast members are doing that about sequel people, unless you read between the lines. Imagine if Disney wasn't communist China with their censoring and presence.

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