The 2017 Rolling All-Australian Thread

[SSSSSS]

The second best player on the second best team couldn't get in the AA 40 man squad, ok

Maybe the second best team could ask their captain to hand his spot to him.

 

[catstorm]

Maybe the second best team could ask their captain to hand his spot to him.

Selwood shouldn't be in the team, this is about oversight of Duncan who is better then 3-4 players picked including Selwood.

Though if Selwood did pull out they'd probably just throw another Adelaide player in.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Terrible selections. Astbury over Jonas every day of the week. Oliver over treloar who butchered it all year.

 

[Macca19]

Love all the underrating of Jonas

 

[Dennis Trumpet]

Love all the underrating of Jonas

Honestly the only time i noticed him all year was when he got shat on by Cale Hooker.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Love all the underrating of Jonas

If you want to compare the 2 stats show astbury has had a better year pretty comfortably

 

[Macca19]

Honestly the only time i noticed him all year was when he got shat on by Cale Hooker.

That was Hombsch actually.

 

[cotter101]

26 AA debutants this year.

What is the record for that stat?

One would assume 40.

 

[Summer Nights]

At this point what does Grundy have to ******* do?

Does he have to stop forwards kicking goals? Oh he does that.
Does he have to start taking more intercept marks? He is already one of the best in the comp for that.
Does he have to start getting more disposals and attack from the back line? Averages 17 disposals this year, and is one of our key organisers.
Does he have to have team success to get recognition? Oh.

Maybe he just needs a shit tattoo.

Maybe stop being a scragger?

 

[Macca19]

If you want to compare the 2 stats show astbury has had a better year pretty comfortably

What, based on raw kick, mark stats? Pretty clear they don't pick the squad on that, otherwise Oliver would be in it.

 

[HumanMeatball]

What, based on raw kick, mark stats? Pretty clear they don't pick the squad on that, otherwise Oliver would be in it.

Based on simply watching football. I'd argue our defense is superior to port Adelaides regardless think there is about 30 points between the two. More possessions, rebounds, marks. All in all just had a better year.

 

[Loonerty]

Walker had a better season than Danniher in terms of score involvements per game (which is a more reflective, yet less sexy stat then goals), and did (barely) offer more around the ground.

Walkers issue is he didn't dominate a game this season which makes it feel like a weird selection, but the numbers justify him being there.

You've clearly barely watched *Daniher (learn to spell you degenerate) this season.

 

[calyam]

Bont selection is bordering on disgusting. No right to be anywhere near the 40 man squad.

Out of the ones missed out, Cotchin is unlucky. Thought Fantasia was good enough to make the 40 man squad. But he wasn't well ahead of others selected for that position, so not that dissapointed.

Bit annoyed all aus panel is all on board the Bont hype train. He is a super star no doubt but you should't get credits. He had a poor year.

And your post is bordering on delusional.

Bontempelli had a better season in 2016 when he was a top ten player in the league. However, he still had a very good season.

It boggles the mind that there are some people here who think Bontempelli had an awful or even ordinary year. It's far from the truth (unless you focus on his goalkicking accuracy which was genuinely quite dreadful).

 

[Scotland]

Not a good couple of days for Dees fans.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Stats definitely don't paint the full picture. But reading through this thread, most people are perplexed at Oliver's omission from the 40 and a number equally so about the Bonts inclusion.

Just cause he's named in the squad, doesn't mean he should be.

Treloar should come out first. Absolutely mindboggling though.

Bont in purely through overrated reputation and the lack of anyone else on the doggies getting a rep. If JJ had played a blinder, bont wouldnt have been thrown in.

Premiers to missing finals and potentially 0 AA players. Wow what a fall from grace

 

[Poorman53]

Nah if he makes the team he should be captain. Hes the best captain in the game imo so should be AA captain like 13,14,16. Having said that he has to be put on the bench,not on the field.

He has to not be in the team. I thought Duncan was extremely unlucky to miss. In my mock team I had him in the last bench spot.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Bit embarrassed by the number of Crows players. Lever and Lynch don't belong. Lever only had a handful of great games. Lynch very good but understated and a few quiet ones. Think he's the player you select when trying to prove you know football. Bit of a hipster player.

Happy with the other Crows but could argue Jacobs out as Ryder and Kreuzer the 2 dominant rucks.

Laird a certainty for the final team and Mrouch should be too. Sloane gets in. Had a down middle, but his last month has been as good as his first 2 and his best performances have been as good as any.

Duncan most unlucky for mine. We finished level on points and they only have 2.

 

[Great 2008]

Without Danger and Selwood the AA team is nothing.

 

[SterlingArcher]

Selwood shouldn't be in the team, this is about oversight of Duncan who is better then 3-4 players picked including Selwood.

Though if Selwood did pull out they'd probably just throw another Adelaide player in.

Yeah Geelong are so hard done by the AA selection table, you never get a bunch of blokes like Adelaide did...

 

[Jade]

And your post is bordering on delusional.

Bontempelli had a better season in 2016 when he was a top ten player in the league. However, he still had a very good season.

It boggles the mind that there are some people here who think Bontempelli had an awful or even ordinary year. It's far from the truth (unless you focus on his goalkicking accuracy which was genuinely quite dreadful).

Bont had a pretty decent year.

But in no way should he be anywhere near the AA squad - his reputation FAR exceeds his output in 2017.

 

[citizen-erased]

Bont had a pretty decent year.

But in no way should he be anywhere near the AA squad - his reputation FAR exceeds his output in 2017.

Yeah, good year but others have been better

 

[AG]

Bont had a good year. One of the few Dogs to actually turn up this year and he was on track for a possible bench or HF spot a month ago.

I doubt he makes it now after a quiet last month.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Bont had a pretty decent year.

But in no way should he be anywhere near the AA squad - his reputation FAR exceeds his output in 2017.

His reputation compared to his output doesn't matter. It's his output compared to other fwd/mids that matter, which is still at the top end. Only Greene and Gray have been better playing that 60/40 role.

He probably doesn't deserve a best 22 spot but the outrage over his nomination is absurd. Still had a great year besides his goal kicking.

 

[Altum Volantes]

The way I, personally, see the squad
Team Locks: L. Franklin, J. J. Kennedy, P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, A. Rance, D. Zorko, J. Kelly

Most Likely to make the team: R. Laird, S. Docherty, Z. Merrett, E. Betts, T. Mitchell, M. Hurley, R. Gray

Directly Competing: M. Kreuzer/P. Ryder/S. Jacobs, J. Daniher/B. Brown, M. Hibberd/E. Yeo/J. Howe/J. McGovern/D. Roberton, M. Crouch/R. Sloane/J. Selwood/S. Ross/ J.P. Kennedy/M. Bontempelli

Doubt it, but potentially: J. Lever, T. Walker, A. Treloar, D. Shiel, T. Greene, J. Garlett, N. Jetta,

Not even close to the team, imo: T. Scully, T. Jonas, T. Lynch

That leads to my team being:

B. R. Laird ------- M. Hurley --------- S. Docherty
HB. J. McGovern -- A. Rance ---------- M. Hibberd
C. Z. Merrett ----- T. Mitchell -------- J. Kelly
HF. D. Zorko ------- L. Franklin ------- J. Daniher
F. E. Betts -------- J. J. Kennedy ---- R. Gray
R. M. Kreuzer ----- D. Martin -------- P. Dangerfield
I/C. R. Sloane ----- M. Crouch ----- E. Yeo ------ J. Selwood
​

I can see you have squeezed Tom Mitchell in there to throw most of us off the scent but really mate....what's your problem with the Toms?

 

[catstorm]

Yeah Geelong are so hard done by the AA selection table, you never get a bunch of blokes like Adelaide did...

Well yeah we did, but it required us to finish 4 games clear in one of the most dominant seasons in AFL history not equal first with 5 other teams within 1.5 games of us, just saying.