The 2017 Rolling All-Australian Thread

[Trav 20]

Blind freddy could tell you nic nat has the best taps in the competition, by a long stretch.

You mustn't watch much of Gawn.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n/news-story/e77a6d5b76cdce02ab6b7ed6bdd1f4c8

From the corresponding period last year.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

You mustn't watch much of Gawn.

I might say the same to you about naitanui. I watch most games every week and see plenty of Gawn, he is definitely one of the better tap artists, but I don't think you can dispute Naitanui's tapping mastery.

There's a paywall on your link by the way

 

[00Stinger]

I might say the same to you about naitanui. I watch most games every week and see plenty of Gawn, he is definitely one of the better tap artists, but I don't think you can dispute Naitanui's tapping mastery.

There's a paywall on your link by the way

Gawns tap out to advantage is clearly number 1 in the league. However Nik Nat is clearly number 2

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[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Gawns tap out to advantage is clearly number 1 in the league. However Nik Nat is clearly number 2

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I don't think so.

 

[Shaneprice97]

Didnt Gawn break the record last season for hitouts to advantage?

 

[robertg22]

Are Gawn and Nic Nat a chance for AA this year?

 

[00Stinger]

I don't think so.

Yep. Stats back that up

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[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Yep. Stats back that up

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Last time I checked there's no stat that rates the quality of a tap to advantage, but nice try.

 

[adammania9]

Jacobs is my current ruck

 

[Substance]

Nic nat is the best tap ruckman, and Gawn isn't far behind. However Gawn does more around the ground I'd say including some goal saving contested marks in defence nearly every game.

now focus on a ruckman that actually has a chance of making AA this year.

 

[Blackas87]

Last time I checked there's no stat that rates the quality of a tap to advantage, but nice try.

So in your opinion why are Nic Nats taps to advantage of more quality than Gawns?

 

[ZingerB]

It is a ruck contest, Sandi should just step out of the way and let Ryder have a free run at the ball?

Sandi / Ryder

Disposals 12 / 7
Marks 1 / 1
Hit outs 36 / 23
Inside 50 1 / 0
Cont poss 9 / 7

Please explain how Ryder destroyed Sandi.

He did give away about 5 free kicks and was beaten around the ground. It was a weird game, because they let him get away with pretty blatant blocks in the 1st quarter and then the rules got stricter as the game went on and they were paying nothing by the end.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

So in your opinion why are Nic Nats taps to advantage of more quality than Gawns?

Simply based on the subjective judgement from watching a lot of both of them, watch the video I posted a few comments up and see for yourself. Gawn is no doubt a quality tapper, but the taps to advantage naitanui provides are positioned to a pinpoint. For example the frequency at which he manages to land a perfectly placed tap down shuey's throat who is running at full pace is unmatched, you rarely ever see taps like that from anyone, and Nic does it several times a game.

 

[Schauermann]

He did give away about 5 free kicks

So Ryder got the ball twice by himself and 5 times by the umpires...

 

[Handsome_Jack]

Simply based on the subjective judgement from watching a lot of both of them, watch the video I posted a few comments up and see for yourself. Gawn is no doubt a quality tapper, but the taps to advantage naitanui provides are positioned to a pinpoint. For example the frequency at which he manages to land a perfectly placed tap down shuey's throat who is running at full pace is unmatched, you rarely ever see taps like that from anyone, and Nic does it several times a game.

Dude, you think Nic Nat is better because he plays for your team, just say that. Both are top quality rucks who aren't even in the conversation this year because of injury but would be otherwise.

 

[Kingfish73]

So Ryder got the ball twice by himself and 5 times by the umpires...

Would u like Ryder playing for freo at moment?

 

[Schauermann]

Would u like Ryder playing for freo at moment?

Hard to say atm.. We don't need 2nd first ruck, so it depends how much impact he would have forward. Has been good in that role in the past at times, not so much now since he plays as your sole ruck. Generally like the setup with Taberner (or a similar player) more, who is pretty much wildcard atm, with a big variety from dominant to useless in his 4 games this season. So not sure...

Ps Btw what you quoted was obviously not meant deadly serious...

 

[00Stinger]

Last time I checked there's no stat that rates the quality of a tap to advantage, but nice try.

But there is a hitouts to advantage stat that Gawn dominates over the past 2 years

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[Kingfish73]

Hard to say atm.. We don't need 2nd first ruck, so it depends how much impact he would have forward. Has been good in that role in the past at times, not so much now since he plays as your sole ruck. Generally like the setup with Taberner (or a similar player) more, who is pretty much wildcard atm, with a big variety from dominant to useless in his 4 games this season. So not sure...

Ps Btw what you quoted was obviously not meant deadly serious...

Ryder must be in consideration for all Australian. Having one of his best starts to a season

 

[Young Gun #6]

Can we move the Gawn NN argument. Neither are even playing, wrong thread.

 

[JHF1870]

Can we move the Gawn NN argument. Neither are even playing, wrong thread.

Big Dix is looking prime for a spot.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Are Gawn and Nic Nat a chance for AA this year?

Going by the quality of this years rucks, yes probably.

 

[JG22]

Big Dix is looking prime for a spot.

Wouldn't have thought so

 

[ZingerB]

So Ryder got the ball twice by himself and 5 times by the umpires...

And used it with aplomb

 

[Blackas87]

Simply based on the subjective judgement from watching a lot of both of them, watch the video I posted a few comments up and see for yourself. Gawn is no doubt a quality tapper, but the taps to advantage naitanui provides are positioned to a pinpoint. For example the frequency at which he manages to land a perfectly placed tap down shuey's throat who is running at full pace is unmatched, you rarely ever see taps like that from anyone, and Nic does it several times a game.

I did watch your video. Did you watch the video I posted?
Many of Gawn's taps are pinpointed strait to position in set plays allowing teammates to run strait on and kick goals. This happens weekly.